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1 posted on 10/03/2004 6:13:38 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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Dudes - doesn't matter.

Kerry didn't 'win' the debate - Bush blew it.


113 posted on 10/03/2004 7:24:49 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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Absolutely!

Cheating Kerry gate!


123 posted on 10/03/2004 7:30:41 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Tragically Single

Ping


129 posted on 10/03/2004 7:33:27 PM PDT by tuliptree76 (I need a tagline. Any suggestions?)
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130 posted on 10/03/2004 7:33:34 PM PDT by Boazo
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Did Kerry Violate Debate Rules By Using Cheat Sheet?

How else was Kerry expected to remember the answers to the questions?

134 posted on 10/03/2004 7:37:17 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: AmericanMade1776

From what I know of the venerated Jim Lehrer, it wouldn't surprise me to find out Kerry not only had crib notes, but that he had the questions before hand too!


139 posted on 10/03/2004 7:38:46 PM PDT by BB2
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To: AmericanMade1776

Two words. Pocket protector. The geek had his pens in a pocket protector. What was in the protector, I don't know, but the picture is easily explained.


147 posted on 10/03/2004 7:41:05 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: AmericanMade1776; areafiftyone; All
FWIW---FoxNews was the "pool source" (not sure of terminology ?) for the video for the debates last Thursday.

The one "pool source" that then shares the feed with the other news groups.

I heard Brit Hume say this a few minutes after the debate, I guess just to explain how it works.

Point being: Fox has all the video that exists at the best quality, and if there is truly reliable footage that proves Kerry cheated I trust that Fox will run with it--especially since the pajama brigade and Drudge have already gotten the ball rolling!
158 posted on 10/03/2004 8:21:15 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (Am I a part of the cure? Or am I part of the disease? Singing.... You are, you are, you are)
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To: AmericanMade1776
My Own due diligence. My apologies if someone posted this timeline, but I've been working on it for a while,
so I wasn't reading through all the posts.

Jim Lehrer said:
"I have agreed to enforce their rules on them"

I say balogney.....

It's no wonder Kerry is facing away from Lehrer, they had been told the Moderator would enforce the rues.

Now if one was to sneak something in, and VIOLATE THE RULES as Kerry OBVIOUSLY did no matter what the closet
libs say, one would do it to avoid the Moderator from catching you.

Kerry is facing clearly facing away from the Moderator:

Think about the Moderators wink to Kerry at the END, and put this into perspective.

Is it Possible the Moderator and one Candidate (kerry) Schemed so that the Moderator would not notice Kerry
removing something from his pocket?

Look at the Moderator, and vies the C-Span or washington Post Rm video and use pause and review to stop and play.

You will see the following:

Jim Lehrer said:
00:00:32 "I have agreed to enforce their rules on them"
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00:1:52 Moderator looks Down while kerry, makes way to Podium.
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00:1:53 Moderator looks at kerry, as he makes way to Podium.
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00:1:54 Moderator looks DOWN while kerry makes way to Podium.
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00:1:54 Moderator looks down while Kerry makes way towards podium with Kerry's back to Moderator.
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00:1:55 Kerry reaches into breast suit pocket, VIOLATING DEBATE RULES HE AGREED TO.
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00:1:55 Moderator clearly looks at Bush while picking up paper, and turning it over. Ensuring Kerry would not be caught while you see the kerry swipe.
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00:1:56 Moderator continues to look down
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00:1:57 Moderator looks at Kerry, but Deed has been done, as Podium height blocks Moderator
from seeing what Kerry has removed form Pocket and fiddles with on Podium.

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00:1:58 Moderator finally returns a look to kerry after debate violation swipe from suit pocket.
Podium hides done deed. Why is Kerry looking down?

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00:1:59 Moderator continues to look at kerry after debate violation swipe from suit pocket,
but again, podium hides done deed.

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**I would like to add the screen cap of the Moderators Wink to this, if someone canpost that as well,
it would be appreciated.

NOTE: This absolves the Moderator in my opinion from seeing the deed, as Video proves he was looking
down or at Bush when Kerry violated the Rules.

It does not however absolve the Moderator from explaining the wink, or the possibility that this was
a planned event scheme that was potentially agreed to by the Moderator and Candidate Kerry. The evidence is non-conclusive
to that point although, the wink along with the Moderators view of Kerry during the Violation can
lead to the conclusion of a scheme between the Moderator and the candidate Kerry, in my opinion.

The Video is there, the wink at the end is there, and the evidence is clear.
Kerry Violated the debate rules, cheated, and the format has been compromised by
none other than the candidate himself.

Best Regards,
Sonar5
Joe

163 posted on 10/03/2004 9:27:25 PM PDT by Sonar5
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Did Kerry violate the rulles by using a cheat sheet?

Does a bear take a dump in the woods?!

165 posted on 10/03/2004 9:52:10 PM PDT by Lurking2Long
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Call these folks to urge an investigation, I'm calling them this morning -

Their website is www.debates.org
can't find an email there but they have a letter pdf to the campaigns with their address

Commission of Presidential Debates
1200 New Hampshire Ave NW Suite 445
Washington DC 20036
202-872-1020
fax 202-783-5923

172 posted on 10/04/2004 3:55:26 AM PDT by MomwithHope
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To: AmericanMade1776

DemocRATs attempting to say that it was a fountain pen that this botoxed geek was pulling from his inside coat pocket is sophomoric.


203 posted on 10/04/2004 5:26:59 AM PDT by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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This is worse than WATERGATE in my opinion!!


209 posted on 10/04/2004 5:54:47 AM PDT by benice (Kerrys a cheater.....expell him.)
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I just called the Comission number and the guy on the line said that he had not heard about it. I find that hard to believe.


211 posted on 10/04/2004 9:02:26 AM PDT by JohnBDay
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