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Drudge: DEBATE MYSTERY: DID KERRY HAVE CHEAT SHEET?
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Posted on 10/03/2004 11:09:24 AM PDT by stockpirate
Edited on 10/03/2004 12:01:46 PM PDT by Admin Moderator.
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To: Destro
Political rhetoric is not the same as rhetorical oratory in philosophy or ethics. Are you saying your posts are only meant as a display a rhetorician's style? Check your own posts in this thread before you assume the posture of a classical Greek. ( Rhetoric also means insincere and pretentious.)
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posted on
10/04/2004 8:32:26 AM PDT
by
drpix
To: stockpirate
My Own due diligence. My apologies if someone posted this timeline, but I've been working on it for a while,
so I wasn't reading through all the posts.
Jim Lehrer said:
"I have agreed to enforce their rules on them"
I say balogney.....
It's no wonder Kerry is facing away from Lehrer, they had been told the Moderator would enforce the rues.
Now if one was to sneak something in, and VIOLATE THE RULES as Kerry OBVIOUSLY did no matter what the closet
libs say, one would do it to avoid the Moderator from catching you.
Kerry is facing clearly facing away from the Moderator:
Think about the Moderators wink to Kerry at the END, and put this into perspective.
Is it Possible the Moderator and one Candidate (kerry) Schemed so that the Moderator would not notice Kerry
removing something from his pocket?
Look at the Moderator, and vies the C-Span or washington Post Rm video and use pause and review to stop and play.
You will see the following:
Jim Lehrer said:
00:00:32 "I have agreed to enforce their rules on them"
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![](http://www.aboutpolitics.net/debate/k4.jpg)
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00:1:52 Moderator looks Down while kerry, makes way to Podium.
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![](http://www.aboutpolitics.net/debate/k13.jpg)
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00:1:53 Moderator looks at kerry, as he makes way to Podium.
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![](http://www.aboutpolitics.net/debate/k3.jpg)
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00:1:54 Moderator looks DOWN while kerry makes way to Podium.
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![](http://www.aboutpolitics.net/debate/k14.jpg)
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00:1:54 Moderator looks down while Kerry makes way towards podium with Kerry's back to Moderator.
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![](http://www.aboutpolitics.net/debate/k2.jpg)
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00:1:55 Kerry reaches into breast suit pocket, VIOLATING DEBATE RULES HE AGREED TO.
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![](http://www.aboutpolitics.net/debate/k12.jpg)
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00:1:55 Moderator clearly looks at Bush while picking up paper, and turning it over. Ensuring Kerry would not be caught while you see the kerry swipe.
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![](http://www.aboutpolitics.net/debate/k15.jpg)
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00:1:56 Moderator continues to look down
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![](http://www.aboutpolitics.net/debate/k1.jpg)
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00:1:57 Moderator looks at Kerry, but Deed has been done, as Podium height blocks Moderator
from seeing what Kerry has removed form Pocket and fiddles with on Podium.
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![](http://www.aboutpolitics.net/debate/k7.jpg)
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00:1:58 Moderator finally returns a look to kerry after debate violation swipe from suit pocket.
Podium hides done deed. Why is Kerry looking down?
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![](http://www.aboutpolitics.net/debate/k11.jpg)
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00:1:59 Moderator continues to look at kerry after debate violation swipe from suit pocket,
but again, podium hides done deed.
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![](http://www.aboutpolitics.net/debate/k9.jpg)
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**I would like to add the screen cap of the Moderators Wink to this, if someone canpost that as well,
it would be appreciated.
NOTE: This absolves the Moderator in my opinion from seeing the deed, as Video proves he was looking
down or at Bush when Kerry violated the Rules.
It does not however absolve the Moderator from explaining the wink, or the possibility that this was
a planned event scheme that was potentially agreed to by the Moderator and Candidate Kerry. The evidence is non-conclusive
to that point although, the wink along with the Moderators view of Kerry during the Violation can
lead to the conclusion of a scheme between the Moderator and the candidate Kerry, in my opinion.
The Video is there, the wink at the end is there, and the evidence is clear.
Kerry Violated the debate rules, cheated, and the format has been compromised by
none other than the candidate himself.
Best Regards,
Sonar5
Joe
To: Old anti feminist
"Hope Rush and Hannity get after this today before it blows away."
I listened for Laura Ingraham to mention it, but if she did say anything I didn't hear it.
To: Sonar5
I haven't read every post on this thread -- stopped last night at about 500 -- but pulling ANYTHING out of his jacket pocket and putting in on the podium would violates the rules. It simply doesn't matter whether it was notes or not.
The fact that he hid his action gives us the right to presume the worst.
This guy is a combination of Dr. Smith from Lost in Space and Gilderoy Lockhart from Harry Potter. An evil phony riding on stolen credentials.
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posted on
10/04/2004 8:45:52 AM PDT
by
js1138
(Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
To: P-Marlowe
I have often wondered the same thing about Clinton. Yes, he is bright, but the true nature of these people is to cheat and lie their way up the career ladder. I wouldn't doubt it in the least if Kerry broke the rules. That's what Kerry does best.
To: js1138
Wouldn't surpirse me if with his wife's money, he had some kind of computer designed to feed him the answers.
To: 95Tarheel
That may not be so far from the truth. Consider this: kerry started his response at exactly the moment lehrer finished posing the question and finished at exactly the time allotted. Same with rebuttals. For this to occur, he would have had to have anticipated every possible question and then memorized a respone lasting two minutes. I smelled a rat as I believe "W" did also.
To: Area51
"This looks to me like the Work of Mary Matlin."
Is she the one that thought up the lame "he spoke from his heart" spin?
BTW, it wsn't a pen. Is the story being pursued?
To: christie
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posted on
10/04/2004 11:08:30 AM PDT
by
tuesday afternoon
(Everything happens for a reason. - 40 and 43)
To: Sonar5
I have never seen a pen shaped like a small white rectangle. What is the NY POST looking at?
To: stockpirate
Well, I was trying to be fair about this and give Kerry the benefit of the doubt here, but that was NOT a black pen (in my eyes). Interesting.
To: metacognative
I have never seen a pen shaped like a small white rectangle.I think the small white rectangle is his shirt cuff.
There! I said it. I didn't want to, but having looked at videos and stills until my eyes cross, that's what it looks like.
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posted on
10/04/2004 1:33:59 PM PDT
by
libravoter
(Live from the People's Republic of Cambridge)
To: TaxRelief
About ten minutes into the debate you can see clearly that Kerry was absolutely writing with a white pen, not a black one.
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posted on
10/04/2004 1:55:49 PM PDT
by
Tamzee
(Ted Koppel --- "....the media will need a stepstool to rise to the level of used car salesmen.")
To: Tamsey
It appears that he definitely cheated - will he get called on it?
To: libravoter
His shirt cuff? Please look at this video in the slo-mo version, the 2nd version, you might have to push the play button on this.
http://www.dailyrecycler.com/blog/2004/10/winners-never-cheat.html
It's very obvious that his left hand reaches into his inside jacket pocket on the right side.
What did he pull out? His shirt cuff? I don't think so.
To: stockpirate
[ DEBATE MYSTERY: DID KERRY HAVE CHEAT SHEET? ]
Of course he did...
SlapSlap.. pay attention, wake up.. And Jim Lehrer is his shill...
Their democrats, you expected maybe,, HONOR ?..
next time pay attention..
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posted on
10/04/2004 2:28:49 PM PDT
by
hosepipe
(This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
To: texasbluebell
What did he pull out? His shirt cuff? I don't think so.Sorry, wasn't clear. I think the white rectangle is his shirt cuff. When I looked at it that way, it looked like he grabbed a pen.
Maybe it was something else, but I think the cuff obscures it.
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posted on
10/04/2004 2:31:59 PM PDT
by
libravoter
(Live from the People's Republic of Cambridge)
To: KavMan
Can't wait to hear Savage tonight! Twenty minutes to go.
To: stockpirate
I'd like to take a little vote here...If you are right handed, where do YOU keep YOUR pen?
1,239
posted on
10/04/2004 5:37:42 PM PDT
by
RetSignman
(Forever Optimistic Never Complacent)
To: rwfromkansas
...it still would not have been an excuse for Bush's horrible performance. Exactly.
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posted on
10/04/2004 5:52:38 PM PDT
by
Jorge
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