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Sen. Murray has little justification to decry ad
King County Journal ^ | 10/3/04 | John Carlson

Posted on 10/03/2004 11:00:48 AM PDT by freespirited

``George Nethercutt's ad is a lie -- and he knows it.''

-- Sen. Patty Murray

What ad? The one showing Patty Murray at a Vancouver school telling students that Osama bin Laden is popular because he builds schools and day-care centers for people in the Arab world and we don't? Here's the quote:

``He's been out in these countries for decades, building schools, building roads, building infrastructure, building day-care facilities, building health care facilities, and the people are extremely grateful. He's made their lives better. We have not done that.''

Sen. Murray is furious, saying that the ad insinuates that she supports bin Laden. No, that is not what the commercial conveys. Any candidate who ran an ad suggesting that his opponent supports bin Laden and the 9/11 attacks would simply be laughed out of the race. Her supporters in the Seattle media who echo her accusations should step back and take a closer look.

What the ad actually shows is Patty Murray unplugged: without the advisers, consultants and speechwriters. The ad is not at all out of context (I've heard the longer tape and have talked to Sen. Murray about it). She rhetorically asks the students why bin Laden was so popular in parts of the Arab world, then answers her own question by essentially arguing that the man is a Latter-day Arab New Dealer. She then contrasted bin Laden's generosity with our own parsimony, concluding that maybe if we were ``better neighbors out in other countries'' they might think better of us.

Let me say this as succinctly as possible: The senator is wrong on every count. She is wrong about bin Laden's generosity, she is dreadfully wrong about American parsimony and she is wrong about why he is popular in some of these places. Bin Laden's followers aren't building infrastructure, they're blowing it up -- in Afghanistan, Iraq, Spain, Russia, Bali, the Philippines, Turkey, etc. As for bin Laden himself, who is now either dead or in deep hiding, he has never built a day-care center in his life. He would condemn their very existence. Any medical facilities he built were for jihadists injured in battle. There is no record of his building any schools, (which of course would be closed to girls), but some of his money may have gone toward militant maddrasses where boys are immersed in a world of hatred of Israel, Jews, Americans and the West, a curriculum that morphs them into the kind of Islamic fanatics that cheer suicide bombers the way that kids cheer Ichiro.

He built a militant mosque in Afghanistan, but again, the purpose was to foment blind hatred of the West. If Patty Murray walked down a street in business attire and no headcover in bin Laden's Afghanistan, she'd be beaten with sticks in broad daylight. Calling the cops wouldn't help; the cops would be the ones beating her.

``He's made life better for them?'' Show me where, Sen. Murray. Name the country. Name the town. Saying that bin Laden built infrastructure in Afghanistan is like saying that crackpot racist Richard Butler, who ran the Aryan Nations compound, built infrastructure in Hayden Lake, Idaho.

As for Sen. Murray's claims that Americans have not helped build schools, hospitals and roads, she is simply mistaken. America is doing more than any other country to build the infrastructure of a nation decimated by eight years of Taliban rule. The senator has acknowledged on the radio that she was wrong to make that claim when she made it.

But Sen. Murray's biggest mistake -- and that of the media trying to cover for her -- is tying bin Laden's popularity to his phantom generosity. Bin Laden is popular for the same reason the Jordanian killer Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is popular: He murders people and terrorizes Western societies that his followers already despise. He's playing offense against the infidels.

Our response should be two-fold. First, target the terrorists that are targeting us, and second, plant the flag of democracy in the very places they have operated from. Nothing is as deadly to religious fascists as the light of liberty and democracy. That's why they're killing voter registrars in Afghanistan. That's why they're blowing up schoolchildren in Iraq. We either run or we win. George Nethercutt has already figured that out. Patty Murray, after nearly a dozen years in the U.S. Senate, still has it wrong.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: clueless; electionussenate; lunacy; nethercutt; osama; osamamama; pattymurray
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To: JoeSixPack1; All
...but what do we know, we wear pajamas.


21 posted on 10/03/2004 2:35:39 PM PDT by AWestCoaster
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To: bigfootbob
By the way, isn't Rep. Norm Dicks career due to end sometime in the near future? Let's everyone unite to support thirty-year term limits.
:-)
22 posted on 10/03/2004 3:53:14 PM PDT by vox_freedom (Vote W, and then vote again!)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Move.


23 posted on 10/03/2004 3:55:03 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: vox_freedom

He's not in my district. I'd vote agin' him if I could.


24 posted on 10/03/2004 6:01:06 PM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Murray is one of my Senators.

McDermott is my Congressman.

I live in hell.

Hillary is one of my Senators.

Jerold Nadler is my Congressman.

Howdy neighbor!

25 posted on 10/04/2004 1:11:24 AM PDT by Gigantor (Any law written in a way that allows enforcement to be interpreted by the enforcers WILL be abused.)
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To: freespirited
He's made their lives better. We have not done that.

This is what struck me by what she said, like it is our responsibility to make there lives better. If you watch the ad she's very as ease with what she says and believes what she is saying. As for Nethercutt I'm not holding my breath, the metro Seattle area is just too big a block of Liberal mass for the smaller rural towns to overcome.

26 posted on 10/04/2004 1:28:15 AM PDT by Mr. Rips (Bunker buster nukes kick a*s!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Mr. Rips

I'm in her area too - and I am praying Nethercutt and Reichert make it in. I keep trying to talk to people about the upcoming votes and I keep hearing "Oh, y'know, I just don't get involved in politics - isn't that Nethercutt one of those fanatics?"

I'm afraid my eyes might bug out of my head or steam might come out of my ears - so I try to calmly discuss issues that might interest them - like our country slipping into communism, but half the time they still say things like "Well, I sure could use some help with my health insurance costs - didn't Patty Murray say she would help with that?"

Idiots! They live in ignorant foolish bliss.


27 posted on 10/04/2004 8:01:52 PM PDT by Julie(LCR) (democrats thrive when good people sit back and do nothing)
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To: LeftCoastRebel; Psycho_Bunny; Gator113; moneypenny

What's the word on this race, a month out?

I figure a GOPer winning a senate seat from an incumbent democrat in a very liberal state is a high mountain to climb. But I was listening to Michael Medved this eve (who broadcasts from Washington) and he was discussing this race and Nethercutt's new ad in the 2nd hour.

Any chance here? Gracias from The Silver State!


28 posted on 10/05/2004 1:27:31 AM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: HitmanNY

My sis works at our state capital - very close to the gov and says that the race is very close - in fact they are currently calling it a tie as far as the race for the govs mansion and the race for the district I am in - the 8th congessional.

As far as Murrays spot, last I heard, she had it pretty well locked up. Miracles can happen, I just hope they don't happen for Kerry.


29 posted on 10/05/2004 3:33:32 AM PDT by Julie(LCR) (democrats thrive when good people sit back and do nothing)
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To: Hank Rearden
Osama Mama still ranks among the 3 dumbest people on Capitol Hill...

I dunno, the competition is pretty fierce. Feingold and Pelosi are right up there and we haven't even gotten to the "A" team.

30 posted on 10/05/2004 3:46:45 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

Patty Murray isn't merely one of the three dumbest people on Capitol Hill.

The "Mom in Tennis Shoes" is THE dumbest person on Capitol Hill. And I've been forced to watch her scowling face and hear her high-pitched whine of a voice in her silly campaign ads for weeks now. Actually, I don't watch them anymore--as soon as I hear the voice, I change the channel. She annoys me. She annoyed me even in those dark, dim days when I was still a liberal Democrat.


31 posted on 10/05/2004 3:51:04 AM PDT by Calico Cat (the simplest solution is usually the correct one)
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To: freespirited

Osama Mama is hopping mad! Boy, liberals can dish it out, but they can't take it! Talk about getting defensive over a mere ad!


32 posted on 10/05/2004 3:52:16 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: bpjam
I would say she has NO excuse. And no room for complaining. Unless she wants to claim that it isn't her in that video.

It's the Tuh-RAY-zuh defense. "I didn't say that. I never said that. You're putting words in my mouth."

33 posted on 10/05/2004 3:53:20 AM PDT by shezza (Hi, my name is shezza and I'm a FReepaholic.)
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To: goldstategop
liberals can dish it out, but they can't take it

No wonder they all want to cave in to terrorists. If they crawl under their beds when they face an adverse political advertisment, imagine their fear of U.S. soldiers wielding arms to protect them.

34 posted on 10/05/2004 3:57:18 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Psycho_Bunny; Gigantor
Murray is one of my Senators.

McDermott is my Congressman.

I live in hell.

Hillary is one of my Senators.

Jerold Nadler is my Congressman.

Howdy neighbor!

Levin is a Senator in Michigan

Stabenow is a senator in Michigan

Granholm is the governor of Michigan

Welcome to my nightmare

35 posted on 10/05/2004 4:02:16 AM PDT by PGalt
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