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Did KERRY CHEAT in the debate? (vanity)
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Posted on 10/02/2004 3:03:31 PM PDT by igoramus987

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Some think that the item is a pen, some think it is paper. Can someone please investigate further and get a screen capture.

Any foreign object is illegal according to the debate rules, but if it is paper, especially if had notes on it, then that is cheating.

1 posted on 10/02/2004 3:03:31 PM PDT by igoramus987
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To: igoramus987

Really, though, who cares? Democrat Party Operatives, even high level ones like John F'n Kerry and TheBentOne will get a free pass for their behaviour. They're Democrats, you see.


3 posted on 10/02/2004 3:06:34 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: igoramus987

He always cheats. I mean that in a good way.


4 posted on 10/02/2004 3:10:10 PM PDT by IamJustright
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To: samtheman
Was he ever.

Read the questions that Lurch asked him. They are the most biased set of questions I have ever seen. Only hit Gores Strong points and constantly misquoted what Bush had said. Looks like Lurch only had time to go over the DNC talking points before the debate. Gore never once needed to correct an assumption made by Leher.

Lurch was also supposed to prepare the questions beforehand then use them but he obviously added one that really favored Gore.
5 posted on 10/02/2004 3:12:21 PM PDT by ImphClinton (Four More Years Go Bush)
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To: igoramus987

Ithink Bush was too prepared. Each time Bush was asked a question he would try to remember what his preparers told hiom to say, That isnt the way bush has to win, buish does much better when he is spontaneous.


6 posted on 10/02/2004 3:12:49 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: ImphClinton

Gore?

Maybe you should re-write your post so we can know exactly what you mean.

If you're agreeing with me, great.

If not, you have to re-write and get rid of "Gore" so I know what you're talking about.


7 posted on 10/02/2004 3:14:02 PM PDT by samtheman (www.swiftvets.com)
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To: igoramus987

If any foreign object is is illegal it doesn't matter what he pulled out. A "pen" could hold notes as easily as notepaper. Hesure is writing a lot during the debate. Maybe copying things to be easier read?


8 posted on 10/02/2004 3:14:24 PM PDT by rdeat (Live free or die!)
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To: igoramus987

This is no big deal. If Bush had his act together he would have done better than he did. He didn't have his act together.

That's not the fault of a piece of paper Kerry might have had.

I am sad to report that when times are a little bit bad, some on our side begin resembling the worst of the other side. ;-)


9 posted on 10/02/2004 3:15:00 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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He pulled something out, but I recorded in SLP mode and couldn't really tell what it was.


10 posted on 10/02/2004 3:17:28 PM PDT by KStorm ("Just so you know, I'm ashamed the filmmaker Michael Moore is from Michigan." - JazzX)
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As part of the Debate Rules they should have required that both Candidates had to turn over their notes to the media.

Now, that would be fun to see.

11 posted on 10/02/2004 3:23:31 PM PDT by pete anderson
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The ... campaign manager set him up

Why do you keep posting the same same same same thing in all the threads? At least add a bit of variety from thread to thread....

Why do you keep posting the same same same same thing in all the threads? At least add a bit of variety from thread to thread....

Why do you keep posting the same same same same thing in all the threads? At least add a bit of variety from thread to thread....

Why do you keep posting the same same same same thing in all the threads? At least add a bit of variety from thread to thread....

Why do you keep posting the same same same same thing in all the threads? At least add a bit of variety from thread to thread....

Why do you keep posting the same same same same thing in all the threads? At least add a bit of variety from thread to thread....

Why do you keep posting the same same same same thing in all the threads? At least add a bit of variety from thread to thread....

Why do you keep posting the same same same same thing in all the threads? At least add a bit of variety from thread to thread....

12 posted on 10/02/2004 3:23:41 PM PDT by Theo
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FWIW -- I watched the C-SPAN tape repeatedly and it looked like it could be paper...but that video is of very poor quality.

The FNC video is clearer -- using a highspeed connection -- and it looks more like it coulod be just a Pen.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,134152,00.html

Click on part one.


13 posted on 10/02/2004 3:24:55 PM PDT by Jackson Brown
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The problem with the Republican campaign is they paid attention to podium lights and 32 pages of rules and DIDN'T PREP THE PREZ.

You're problem is you're focusing on where I'm posting but you're not thinking about the possibility that I'm right.

What if I'm right? If we here on FR don't raise our voices to the possibility of a setup, who will?


14 posted on 10/02/2004 3:25:16 PM PDT by samtheman (www.swiftvets.com)
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Yes Kerry cheated. Every time he said "go to my website" rather than stating his position he avoided having to answer specifically.

Additionally the content on Kerry's website changes with the day's news and response to his positions. For example you will no longer hear of MANDATORY "volunteer" service for ALL HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS to graduate. Sounds to much like a DRAFT type obligation.
15 posted on 10/02/2004 3:25:19 PM PDT by weegee (What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
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The goddamn campaign manager set him up....

Why would the president's campaign manager set him up? He may have made a mistake in judgement by having the Pres. out and about with hurricane victims, but I think you're overstating the scenario.

16 posted on 10/02/2004 3:28:48 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (" You have never tasted freedom my friend, else you would know, it is purchased not with gold, but w)
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To: igoramus987

Is the Pope Catholic?


17 posted on 10/02/2004 3:29:57 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: xkaydet65

It was a rather big mistake. And a multiple mistake. Not just out in the hurricane but systematically under-prepped.

Why would Rove do it?

I don't know.

LET'S ASK HIM.

How do we go about doing that?


18 posted on 10/02/2004 3:30:58 PM PDT by samtheman (www.swiftvets.com)
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The ... campaign manager set him up..

I'm getting tired of seeing that crap also.

SamtheMAN - take off your GD tinfoil hat.

Take a deep breath.

Stop with the crap, ok?

LVM

19 posted on 10/02/2004 3:31:38 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (John Kerry says he has changed his mind about all those NO votes in the Senate.)
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To: Theo

I will write 5000 times on the board...I will not cheat. I will not cheat.


20 posted on 10/02/2004 3:32:29 PM PDT by queenkathy
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