Posted on 10/01/2004 7:20:07 PM PDT by aculeus
>>>. I gotta give the edge to the Jihadis though, I think the commies really are through
You do bring up some good points in your post. I prefer your thoughts to mine.
What about factoring in Soros and the 527s?
This brings it back to the commies. The terror driven Muslims didn't equate in until the Enron pipeline deal.
Whereas the antiwar groups factor back to Vietnam and have been consistant.
That's why this makes so much sense to me. The commies ARE through... as long as the U.S. is secure and vibrant. Their only chance at survival at this point is the defeat of America.
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend." I think both the hard-left and the Muslim extremists are double-teaming us to try to engineer the collapse of our country.
Soros is not only far to the left, his fortune is being built by speculating in international currency. It would be very profitable for Soros to force our economy into a crisis while betting heavily against the U.S. dollar.
Not only did Soros help create the "campaign finance reform" that allowed the 527's to be exploited by billionaires trying to manipulate governments, but he's also a "one world government" advocate... and check this out...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1143722/posts
"Soros -- a self-styled citizen of the world who has spent billions meddling in the internal affairs of many nations -- has been credited with wrecking national currencies and toppling governments."
>>>his fortune is being built by speculating in international currency
You left out human trafficking :(
Of course the obvious, ie., drugs. But the human trafficking is the least researched. AND it made Bush's SOTU.
BTW, the Human Trafficking started with the POWs. (some still live) And evolved to porn. And the UN sex for food.
And the NY Big Apple sex tours....
And the drop off the unwanted baby thing in NJ...
etc.
Why hasn't Black Ops taken him out?
Never mind, I will ask them directly now.
That's a good question and your entire train of thought is, IMO, on to something. Remember that VVAW made tapes that were played in NVN condemning America and the South. The entire rhetoric sounds eerily the same. And the left is constatly telling us we cannot fight *terror*, since terror is a weapon, not an enemy.
Also, recently Soros has promised to bring down the American economy if Bush is re-elected.
I don't know enough about those areas to speculate at all. I wouldn't be surprised, but to me the main concern is the collaboration between terrorist groups, communist regimes and the American "peace activist" groups.
The Communist and Socialist Parties in the U.S. do not have to open their bookkeeping records or financial contribution info to the government or public... I believe they are the only two parties in the U.S. that have the privilege of complete blackout of their funding to any scrutiny. Our nation's enemies could be pouring millions into ANSWER et al to manipulate our political system internally and we can't stop them or prove it.
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/ireland/030914 - This link just mentions the Socialist Party, but I've checked into the Communist Party USA and they have the same exemption regarding political contributions.
>>>I don't know enough about those areas to speculate at all.
You don't want to know. I don't want to know.
>>>The Communist and Socialist Parties in the U.S. do not have to open their bookkeeping records or financial contribution info to the government or public...
You are right. And we are in trouble. even if Bush wins.
>>>. Our nation's enemies could be pouring millions into ANSWER et al to manipulate our political system internally and we can't stop them or prove it.
Here is the major bump. I'm scared now.
About a year or two ago I ran across an archived article in the WaPo Business Section that detailed his shenanigans that brought the Asian economy to it's knees in the mid-1990's. Albeit, it wasn't all that hard to do, since the Asian economy isn't as large a scale as the American economy in scale, but, the fact remains, he did bring an entire economy down on it's knees and proferred from it. This is part of the reason why the Japanese Yen has been in the dumps for more than a decade and has yet to recover.
http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/Chronicles/February2004/0204Trifkovic.html
George Soros, Postmodern Villain
by Srdja Trifkovic
NGO's, Behold Your God.
The article specifically states that Kasim "spent the mornings translating websites of foreign newspapers on behalf of the "resistance" "
As we've always known, they are waging a media campaign for the "hearts and minds" of the respective homelands of the Coalition.
Jesus you people are idiots. Everything I have read on this site leads me to believe that you have ZERO understanding of the situation on the ground. To compare Bigley - an elderly working class, highly paid engineer in Iraq to kit out US bases, with two young italian aid workers. To suggest that Bigley was roaming around free in his house, happilly leaping over the bodies of his decapitated friends is not only absurd but insulting - perhaps his beheading was faked too! Of course his brother's going to criticise the government, wouldn't you be desparate to get your relative back - you can't assign political motivations to desperate, panick stricken relatives who aren't behaving rationally, it makes absolutely no sense whatsover. As for him breaking down and crying....the people holding him have a video recorder, if he refused to break down the first time, or the second, or the third you just keep recording it again and again and again until your subject breaks, it's pretty obvious. Our Iraqi translator suggested that the reason Tawhid + Jihad executed the americans first and kept bigley alive was that they knew it would create a rift between Britain and America - (ie why did they execute our boys first and not the brit....and on the other side, why are we siding with those yanks when it means our people get hit as well) so congratulations people, you've just proved Zarqawi and his band of merry men absolutely right. It has divided, on a grassroots level, public opinion between the two countries. I wouldn't normally respond to this but I have never read such a load of moronic, misinformed, right wing crap in all my life.
Here is Iraq 101 for anyone who cares.
Najaf, Karabala, Basra, Sadr city - overwhelmingly Shi ite
parts of Baghdad, Fallujah, Ramadi, Latifiyah - Sunni
Zarqawi and other Foreign muslim fighters - Wahabi.
Sunni and Shi ite muslims are diametrically opposed they can no more go wandering around each others areas than say a white Texan rancher can cruise through south central LA wearing a clan outfit. Wahabi is an even more extreme form of Islam, The wahabi are pretty contemptuous of both Sunni and Shiite religions.
As for the kidnappings - hundreds of affluent iraqis are being kidnapped every day for MONEY. It's much easier to grab someone, who you know will pay up immediately than get drawn into some long international set of negotiations, you'll get more for a westerner, but the governments probably won't pay up. Of course there are no reports of Iraqis being kidnapped because it's not politically motivated and it's generally not that interesting to the rest of the world.
The two Simonas - obviously Stockholm syndrome, you can't take anything they say in the next two months seriously, see what their position is in six months. The interesting thing with those two is Torretta is the one who's been making all the comments, Pari has faded very quietly out of the picture.
Nick Berg, since you lot seem to like conspiracy theories such a lot. The guy was highly intelligent, spoke about nine languages, graduated from college at some ludicrously early age and was wandering around northern Iraq on his own, ostensibly selling 'cellular technology'. Who do you think he was actually working for? Heres a clue (C)orporate (I)formation and(A)ssets.
JESUS.
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