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Raid on Bigley's brother ["Caged" video faked?]
The Daily Telegraph [UK] ^ | October 2, 2004 | By Jack Fairweather in Baghdad

Posted on 10/01/2004 7:20:07 PM PDT by aculeus

Dutch intelligence officers raided the home of Kenneth Bigley's brother last night. An intelligence officer from the Foreign Office is understood to have accompanied them to Paul Bigley's home in Amsterdam.

The raid came amid claims that the British hostage was free to roam his kidnappers' home in Iraq and was "caged" only for terrorist videos.

Paul Bigley's computer was seized and he was interrogated about his alleged contact with the Tawhid and Jihad group, which yesterday claimed responsibility for Thursday's killing of at least 35 children in Baghdad.

Material from his computer was downloaded and sent back for analysis in Britain as he was forced to make a five-page statement.

Mr Bigley has been an outspoken critic of the Government's handling of his brother's case and has established his own contacts in the Middle East but denies being in direct contact with the kidnappers.

In Fallujah, Mohammed Kasim, an Iraqi-born gunman with a British passport, said the latest video of Mr Bigley showing him shackled in a cage had been staged to "terrify" the British public. There was no way of verifying the claim, particularly in a country awash with rumour and conspiracy theories.

Two of Mr Bigley's American colleagues were beheaded by the captors, believed to be the group led by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. Gruesome footage of the murders was transmitted on the internet.

The Bigley family will take renewed hope from the account offered by Kasim.

"If they wanted to kill him they would have done this immediately after they kidnapped him," said Kasim.

"Instead they want to use him to press on the British kingdom." Kasim, 35, is one of two Britons believed to have joined the "resistance" in Fallujah, a stronghold of armed opposition to the US-led presence in Iraq.

An Iraqi translator met him in a coffee shop close to Hamid al-Hamoud mosque.

Kasim spoke fluent English, but refused to show his passport. He also declined to provide any details of where he lived in London, saying: "I want to keep my family safe."

He said he spent the mornings translating websites of foreign newspapers on behalf of the "resistance" and the afternoons manning checkpoints on the main street.

Kasim said he did not belong to Zarqawi's group, Tawhid and Jihad. But the resistance, organised under an 11-member "Mujahideen Shura council", has close ties with Zarqawi and is believed to be protecting him in Fallujah.

Kasim claimed he heard news of Mr Bigley "every day". He said the cage and chains were set up only for the video recording.

"They made this video for two reasons. They wanted to scare Tony Blair. They also wanted revenge for Saddam Hussein for the way in which he was displayed by the US military after his capture."

According to his account, Kassim was born in Fallujah and is a member of the dominant Dulaimy tribe.

He moved to Britain 12 years ago to study at a university, and says he married an Englishwoman who converted to Islam and bore him two children.

Kasim said he returned to Fallujah six months ago and said he had taken part in a raid on a US convoy.

"I am born in Iraq and I should fight with my tribe. I cannot see my town under siege and destroyed so I came from the UK to Iraq to fight.

"I was crying every night when I saw the news. I will go back to my family when the occupation ends and Iraq gets its freedom."

30 September 2004: Terrified hostage paraded again by captors 27 September 2004: Blair's silence 'is kiss of death' 26 September 2004: Bigley family tormented by false execution claim

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TOPICS: Front Page News; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: napalminthemorning; paulbigley; wot
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1 posted on 10/01/2004 7:20:07 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus
I read another story on this earlier - but this one has much more detail...and could lead one (me) to think all sorts of terrible things...like maybe it was a set up from the get go??? Didn't they say from the beginning that the kidnappers seemed to have been tipped off or helped somehow in abducting the 3 from their upscale neighborhood???
2 posted on 10/01/2004 7:29:10 PM PDT by Kylie_04
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To: aculeus

bttt


3 posted on 10/01/2004 7:33:14 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: aculeus

Unreal bump


4 posted on 10/01/2004 7:33:25 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Absalom, Absalom, Absalom....)
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To: aculeus

Well this should get...interesting.


5 posted on 10/01/2004 7:38:43 PM PDT by Valin (I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.)
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To: Kylie_04
The two Simona's, Bigley? This is getting weird. Is it possible that Nick Berg was the first "leftist hostage for hire network", and that it went terribly wrong? It may be prudent to look into these peoples' backgrounds and common ties.
6 posted on 10/01/2004 7:38:48 PM PDT by Shqipo (The gloves are on and the corners are empty.)
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To: Shqipo

Wierd stuff.


7 posted on 10/01/2004 7:39:30 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Kylie_04
It certainly would lead one to believe maybe this brother duo had something to do with the kidnapping and murder of the two Americans, doesn't it?
8 posted on 10/01/2004 7:40:12 PM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill)
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To: Shqipo

Don't forget the Japanese "hostages" that were seen begging for their lives and then let go. Bigley is being used for propaganda purposes. The terrorists read and listen to the media as well. They realize that Bigley is more valuable alive than dead--at least for now.


9 posted on 10/01/2004 7:42:52 PM PDT by kabar
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To: aculeus

I hate myself for thinking this, but some people might make a lot of money by being "kidnapped" and ransomed.


10 posted on 10/01/2004 7:45:03 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: aculeus

Well lookie here! If true, these scumbags should be locked up for 100 years. Of course, in Europe, this would mean a 60 day sentence, suspended for good behavior.


11 posted on 10/01/2004 7:47:18 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (CBS's story is sinking faster than Uncle Ted's Oldsmobile.)
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To: Shqipo

I am a conspiracy theorist by nature...so I could buy it....scary, ain't it???


12 posted on 10/01/2004 7:51:30 PM PDT by Kylie_04
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To: aculeus
Man .. if this is true.

Kasim, 35, is one of two Britons believed to have joined the "resistance" in Fallujah, is one of two Britons believed to have joined the "resistance" in Fallujah.
I will go back to my family when the occupation ends and Iraq gets its freedom."

British soldiers have died along with so many to give freedom to his country of birth and yet he fights against the USA.

This man should never, never, experience freedom again. His "family" in England could even be sending him money to help in his "resistance". Some SAS should drop by his home in England with a little gift.
13 posted on 10/01/2004 7:51:42 PM PDT by badpacifist
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To: kabar

They've traded in their Human Shields program for a Human Hostages program.


14 posted on 10/01/2004 7:52:47 PM PDT by Shqipo (The gloves are on and the corners are empty.)
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To: JustPiper; Cindy

Weird ping.


15 posted on 10/01/2004 7:52:53 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: singfreedom

That's how it reads to me....and if this were all to prove true, might one of the dear brothers have some info that could lead to Al Zarqawi??????? This could get good....in a sick twisted sort of way!


16 posted on 10/01/2004 7:53:16 PM PDT by Kylie_04
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To: aculeus

God, this is one of those things that you don't know whether to wish it's true or wish it's not!


17 posted on 10/01/2004 7:53:21 PM PDT by Sunshine55 (Why would you choose the donkey to be the symbol for your party? Was the sheep already taken?)
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To: aculeus

One more bump


18 posted on 10/01/2004 8:04:54 PM PDT by Valin (I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.)
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To: Kylie_04

Does this mean that the sobbing and pleading for his LIFE was a HOAX??? I cannot believe that!


19 posted on 10/01/2004 8:09:03 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: mhking

This one's got "Just Damn" written all over it.


20 posted on 10/01/2004 8:12:42 PM PDT by Sunshine55 (Why would you choose the donkey to be the symbol for your party? Was the sheep already taken?)
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