Posted on 10/01/2004 11:28:00 AM PDT by conservativo
I reluctantly agree with overnight polls that suggest that, by a plurality, voters believe that Senator John Kerry won his debate with President Bush Thursday night. Both candidates did well. But Senator Kerry got away with murder and that is why it is frustrating. To believe that Bush won you would need some knowledge about the issue of terrorism and the war in Iraq.
If you knew very little about the issues of the day, Kerry sounded convincing. George Bush created this mess in Iraq, said Kerry, and Kerry has a four-point plan to get us out of it. If only the President had made the Senator's voting record the focus of his rebuttals to Senator Kerry, he could have put Kerry's statement in context.
Yes, Bush did say over and over that Kerry has changed his positions, but other than the $87 billion to support the war that Kerry voted against, after having voted to authorize the war, the other flip-flops were not highlighted. Kerry has had at least ten positions on Iraq. If the President had ticked off a few of those contradictions, and linked them to shifting politics in the USA, he might have blown Kerry away.
Kerry began with the assumption that voters watching knew little or nothing about the issues of terrorism and Iraq. Thus, he painted his own picture of what he is about. I wanted to scream when Kerry said he has had only one consistent view of Iraq that has never changed. That clearly is not so. Yet he was not challenged on that assertion.
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I was impressed with Kerry's delivery-now if he would just think of something to say.
Gobbels was convincing--the big LIE if you say it enough people will believe it
I dont know if anyone has seen this (i did a search) But one of the biggest LIES by Kerry last night (and he repeated this twice)was that the US cared more about the oil,we only guarded the oil ministry,not the Nuclear facilities or any buildings that might have records of WMD--play it back folks..WELL--EARTH to LURCH--if this was a wrong war,wrong place etc no WMDS--why guard nuclear facilities or buildings with records of WMD????you can't have it both ways
What are the format and topics for the VP candidates?
Congressman Billybob
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An ABC poll indicated that, as to the winner of the debate, it was:
Kerry: 45%
Bush: 36%
Tie: 17%
This is good news for Bush since 53% of viewers believe either that Bush won or tied, while only 45% believe Kerry won. In this instance, a tie goes to the incumbent president.
There's something of a consensus that "Kerry won the debate." But what do these people think it means to have "won"? That Kerry successfully and effectively portrayed himself as the appeasing, French-loving defeatist he is? Well, if that's "winning," then I guess Kerry won.
The key point here is that while Kerry may have been effective in getting his points across, his points are at variance with a significant majority of Americans.
President Bush, contray to the Communistic and Fascist media, gave KKKerrry a knock-out blow last niight.
I loved it when our President looked into the camera with his steely demeaner and paused one, two, three, four, five beats before responding succinctly to that Traitor KKKerry's insane ranting.
Kerry was unprepared, incoherant, and appeared to be as dumb as a log. He did not have a realistic plan in Iraq. He would bankrupt our economy if we was in office and give hiomosexualls free reign.
God bless Goerge Bush!
Kerry won on style, and sadly, some people vote on style. sigh. My $.02.
This represents the people inclined to vote for Kerry, anyway. He convinced no one.
Sadly again, people have to be very familiar with the issues, as well as “Irish” Kerry’s past, to understand why Kerry is a weak candidate and performed poorly in the debate. Hopefully, there are not enough dumbass voters out there in swing states to help “Irish” on November 2nd.
This is an excellent example of the biased media. Imagine if “W” had threatened to attack North Korea! The media would have had a collective (pun intended) S-fit. Well, “Irish” Johnny did threaten to attack North Korea and the response from the leftist media is a collective (pun intended) yawn.
What a bunch of SeeBS!
Kerry is slick, but if you listen to his message...he's scary as all get out. He'd institute mandatory military service a la Israel, the old bait and switch deal. You serve and if there's money after four years, you'd go to college, maybe not the one of your choice, but so what. All this if there's enough money, which there won't be. And the tax cuts, rebates? Way bye bye to all that. Tax hikes are necessary to take care of homeland security...also more Budweiser dealerships for Jesse and his pals.
He'd hand us over, lock, stock, and barrel..to the UN and our enemies. He's the same poseur, phony baloney traitor he was in Vietnam. He'd cut and run. All this talk about 'nobody's saying anything about leaving Iraq' is nonsense. He'd look for other countries to put in troops, but nobody in his right mind would ante up soldiers if we were pulling out. Plus he'd go into Sudan as quick as he could. Humanitarian. Meals on wheels. Where we have no national interest, he'd put troops. He'd give plutonium to Iran and anybody else who threatened us. He's nuts and dangerous. We need him as president like we need a hole in the head.
I thought Kerry had the questions ahead of time, too. Absolutely.
I was so impressed with the way Airhead Ketchupman sucked up to the moderator instead of We the People. The moderator can do so much for him like controlling the questions. (SARC)
But look on the bright side-Kerry doesn't mean a thing he says.
The problem was the format confined to foreign policy and terrorism. There are so many variables and inconsistencies in both that a debate on them is almost useless. It was obvious that Kerry is a typical UN leaning liberal. Bush expressed an independent view of the United States as being in charge of its own destiny and a course of its own. Neither has any solution to Iraq and the war on terror, relying on a status quo for their debating points.
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