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Talladega Track Specs:
Track/Race Length: 2.66 mile quad oval, 188 laps, 500.08 miles
Superspeedway: 2.66-mile trioval 48 feet wide (12-foot apron)
Turns: Banking: 33 degrees Length: 3,750 feet Radius: 1,100 feet
Trioval: Banking: 18 degrees
Frontstretch: Chute length: 2,150 feet (from turn to middle of trioval)
Total length: 4,300 feet Banking: Minimal for drainage only
Backstretch: Length: 4,000 feet Banking: Minimal for drainage only
Pit Road Speed: 55mph; Caution Car: 70mph
Grandstand Seating: 143,000

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New group plans to push NASCAR toward diversity

By MIKE HARRIS, AP Motorsports Writer

September 27, 2004

An organization calling itself the National Association for Minority Race Fans has set up a web site and is apparently planning protests at some NASCAR Nextel Cup races before the end of the season.

The NAMRF has made inquiries to officials in Hampton, Ga., the home of Atlanta Motor Speedway, about the possibility of staging a protest during the week of the Oct. 31 Bass Pro Shops MBNA 500. There were also indications the group might hold a protest before the EA Sports 500 at Talladega Superspeedway on Sunday.

Bud Smith, chief of police in Hampton, confirmed the NAMRF had contacted the city but said a permit for such a protest would not be necessary. He said the organization would only need to register with the city.

The web site, www.namrf.com, is currently for members only but will be opened to the public on Oct. 1. The home page features a clock counting down to its public opening at midnight Thursday. Behind the clock is what is described on the site as a mission statement which says the group's purpose is to ``create a safe race track environment while pursuing the political, social and economic equality of minority groups and citizens who desire to enjoy NASCAR events without racial bigotry.''

``We strive to remove the barriers of racial discrimination permitted by NASCAR, its sponsors and race teams,'' it said.

The home page also includes images of a Confederate flag, a person wearing a white hood and robe and a burning cross with a car in the background, all with titles like ``Entitled to Damages'' and ``What We're Up Against'' superimposed over them.

There is also mention of a documentary film and NASCAR officials said Monday a film crew has shown up unannounced at the corporate headquarters of several team sponsors, asking to speak with company officials.

A newspaper in Clayton County, Ga., carried a story last week about the planned protest at Atlanta Motor Speedway and quoted a Dallas attorney, Phillip W. Offill Jr., as the group's spokesman. A call to Offill by The Associated Press on Monday was not returned.

NASCAR spokesman Ramsey Poston said Monday the NAMRF has not contacted the stock car sanctioning organization, which is currently involved in two major efforts to foster diversity in the sport.

``NASCAR represents 75 million fans from all across America and we don't think that fan base can be painted with any one broad brush,'' Poston said. ``We think we have shown that we want to make the sport more diverse off and on the track and we are ready and willing to speak to anyone on the issue of diversity.''

Poston acknowledged that there are Confederate flags often displayed in and around the tracks where NASCAR races, but noted that such things are a ``free speech issue.''

``What we can say is that you won't see one in any area controlled by NASCAR,'' he said. ``... I can't take the flags out of people's hands.''

Magic Johnson, the former NBA star and now an entrepreneur in the black community in Los Angeles and other cities, earlier this year became co-chairman of NASCAR's committee on diversity. He also expressed concern about the new organization.

``I would say to them, `Let's see if NASCAR's diversity program is for real,''' Johnson said. ``I'll be the first to say if it's not, `Go ahead and protest.' But, if the program works, they may prevent minorities from making a living in the sport.''

NASCAR's ``Drive for Diversity'' program, which began earlier this year, has helped get rides for several minority drivers and work for minority crew members in lower divisions. Johnson said he is also working on a plan to get more minority businesses involved in the sport.

hey thanks ,Guess what my Bedroom tv just died today its my nascar portal
well off to buy new one

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Rank	Team	19	20	21	22	23	24	25	26	27	28	29	30	31	32	33	34	35	36	Total
1	JuniorsDreamTeam	223	285	306	276	276	271	189	350	298	360	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7742
2	Wheels of Cheddar	212	323	313	310	342	228	255	271	228	344	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7729
3	Rainbow Freeping Warriors	247	332	234	304	230	277	315	258	274	255	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7703
4	fnord not ford	258	345	274	310	292	211	259	259	298	273	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7532
5	Thundering Herd of Turtles	306	202	252	252	288	242	219	191	216	331	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7492
6	20 Wins Again	288	217	202	294	248	252	282	271	160	261	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7483
7	Norms Bar&Grill	281	264	354	312	214	289	276	279	220	300	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7477
8	Bubba Q Racing	235	292	318	264	316	222	244	305	246	320	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7413
9	bosco24	286	301	252	130	262	240	306	168	126	303	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7367
10	Rexford's Rollers	323	295	294	208	192	240	243	293	266	335	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7364
11	Ward Burton's Translator	269	280	336	264	226	258	255	249	204	288	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7324
12	weaken wariors	261	207	320	270	216	294	294	295	318	293	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7283
13	Fierceallegiance	152	320	323	250	316	158	311	349	290	322	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7184
14	rednek's road apples	260	292	228	280	216	220	207	287	306	294	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7165
15	Dog Gone has fender damage	227	276	216	148	200	236	244	279	248	281	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7150
16	Deadeye Racing	303	264	346	294	304	270	299	297	270	257	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7125
17	CarolinaGoldenKnight	318	263	281	210	234	213	318	239	284	237	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7100
18	HersheyKiss	264	291	367	256	276	264	263	289	184	267	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7012
19	puny human number one	288	230	279	224	324	220	336	226	298	197	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6998
20	Speed Stars	255	279	280	344	266	173	211	258	262	254	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6971
21	Elmo's socks	256	220	205	172	212	172	192	210	230	229	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6944
22	Dog Breath Racing	316	272	270	272	202	190	303	363	168	159	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6935
23	cpprfld1	183	246	298	130	236	269	311	256	220	324	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6929
24	Benders de Fenders	314	230	216	262	292	219	328	268	226	273	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6915
25	siouxland racing	265	355	260	194	256	220	290	262	208	288	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6745
26	Good Year Destroyers	269	186	180	146	284	272	255	256	326	211	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6712
27	firewallfoward	263	281	199	146	324	260	240	161	230	290	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6544
28	FR-Drago-Go#6!	270	282	204	196	86	285	259	170	314	159	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6469
29	burning08	310	219	214	274	162	254	225	221	192	247	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6466
30	Budman Racing	256	303	231	180	268	192	331	210	146	278	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6444
31	Seaside 3 wide sideslide (FBD)	185	331	189	126	268	254	181	160	184	254	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6189
32	Bodine's Secret Sponsor	212	329	350	178	110	70	15	1	0	13	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	5926
33	Colonie TwinEngines	176	145	39	0	0	6	0	11	0	5	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	5107
34	Dead snake driving	226	172	229	242	116	132	5	0	0	10	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	4830
35	Afronauters	76	110	34	52	68	48	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3755
36	Maui No Ka Oi	88	90	38	92	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3503
37	Godspeed Racing Team	100	53	82	82	90	81	81	72	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3437
38	countrydummie's boys	0	0	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3397
39	Speedy	91	20	52	52	68	49	56	76	84	5	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3212
40	Harvick's Rescue Rangers	0	1	0	0	0	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3157
41	Marengo Short Tracks	0	0	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	2885
42	Uzimati Racing	0	10	13	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	2605
43	Zionists	6	0	0	0	0	0	3	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	2444
44	Bonforte Motorsports	5	0	0	0	0	0	10	3	0	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	2333
45	Rodney King's Team	5	0	74	0	0	0	45	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	2031

Rank	Team	19	20	21	22	23	24	25	26	27	28	29	30	31	32	33	34	35	36	Total
1	JuniorsDreamTeam	223	285	306	276	276	271	189	350	298	360	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7742
2	Wheels of Cheddar	212	323	313	310	342	228	255	271	228	344	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7729
3	Rainbow Freeping Warriors	247	332	234	304	230	277	315	258	274	255	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7703
4	fnord not ford	258	345	274	310	292	211	259	259	298	273	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7532
5	Thundering Herd of Turtles	306	202	252	252	288	242	219	191	216	331	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7492
6	20 Wins Again	288	217	202	294	248	252	282	271	160	261	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7483
7	Norms Bar&Grill	281	264	354	312	214	289	276	279	220	300	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7477
8	Bubba Q Racing	235	292	318	264	316	222	244	305	246	320	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7413
9	bosco24	286	301	252	130	262	240	306	168	126	303	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7367
10	Rexford's Rollers	323	295	294	208	192	240	243	293	266	335	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7364
11	Ward Burton's Translator	269	280	336	264	226	258	255	249	204	288	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7324
12	weaken wariors	261	207	320	270	216	294	294	295	318	293	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7283
13	Fierceallegiance	152	320	323	250	316	158	311	349	290	322	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7184
14	rednek's road apples	260	292	228	280	216	220	207	287	306	294	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7165
15	Dog Gone has fender damage	227	276	216	148	200	236	244	279	248	281	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7150
16	Deadeye Racing	303	264	346	294	304	270	299	297	270	257	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7125
17	CarolinaGoldenKnight	318	263	281	210	234	213	318	239	284	237	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7100
18	HersheyKiss	264	291	367	256	276	264	263	289	184	267	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7012
19	puny human number one	288	230	279	224	324	220	336	226	298	197	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6998
20	Speed Stars	255	279	280	344	266	173	211	258	262	254	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6971
21	Elmo's socks	256	220	205	172	212	172	192	210	230	229	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6944
22	Dog Breath Racing	316	272	270	272	202	190	303	363	168	159	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6935
23	cpprfld1	183	246	298	130	236	269	311	256	220	324	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6929
24	Benders de Fenders	314	230	216	262	292	219	328	268	226	273	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6915
25	siouxland racing	265	355	260	194	256	220	290	262	208	288	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6745
26	Good Year Destroyers	269	186	180	146	284	272	255	256	326	211	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6712
27	firewallfoward	263	281	199	146	324	260	240	161	230	290	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6544
28	FR-Drago-Go#6!	270	282	204	196	86	285	259	170	314	159	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6469
29	burning08	310	219	214	274	162	254	225	221	192	247	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6466
30	Budman Racing	256	303	231	180	268	192	331	210	146	278	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6444
31	Seaside 3 wide sideslide (FBD)	185	331	189	126	268	254	181	160	184	254	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6189
32	Bodine's Secret Sponsor	212	329	350	178	110	70	15	1	0	13	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	5926
33	Colonie TwinEngines	176	145	39	0	0	6	0	11	0	5	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	5107
34	Dead snake driving	226	172	229	242	116	132	5	0	0	10	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	4830
35	Afronauters	76	110	34	52	68	48	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3755
36	Maui No Ka Oi	88	90	38	92	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3503
37	Godspeed Racing Team	100	53	82	82	90	81	81	72	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3437
38	countrydummie's boys	0	0	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3397
39	Speedy	91	20	52	52	68	49	56	76	84	5	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3212
40	Harvick's Rescue Rangers	0	1	0	0	0	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3157
41	Marengo Short Tracks	0	0	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	2885
42	Uzimati Racing	0	10	13	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	2605
43	Zionists	6	0	0	0	0	0	3	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	2444
44	Bonforte Motorsports	5	0	0	0	0	0	10	3	0	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	2333
45	Rodney King's Team	5	0	74	0	0	0	45	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	2031

Sigh...with my nerves about the presidential campaign on edge, the "chase for the cup" sure isn't helping soothe me at all. Ah, well...I'll still be watching the race come Sunday.

Thanks, as always!

I just finished mowing the lawn, and can sit back and enjoy this.

I have no favorites(they're all dead or retired), so I get to watch the races without biting my nails.

The Giants, on the other hand...

Is there a webcast of MRN? I cannot stand these TV guys but there is no radio in my TV room.