Let's be honest. Kerry has an unhealthy obsession with the real JFK. If our media were not so biased, they would charge Kerry with mental masturbation of the JFK's Presidency.
Posted on 09/30/2004 11:47:55 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative
I don't trust CBS News as far as I can throw a truck, but it doesn't matter whether "experts" see the debate as a draw. They don't see things the way the general (politically undecided) public sees things. I will rest easy if, and only if, W's poll numbers hold-up after his unimpressive (to me) performance and Kerry's numbers don't really go anywhere. I will rest even easier after Bush wins, but I am disconcerted after last night.
Yeah, probably the same "experts" that say the CBS memos are authentic.
IMO, we won't know who "won" for several days.
It may not matter whether or not Kerry looked "presidential"
His anti American history is sickening and he picked an ambulance chaser as running mate.
OTOH, I think modern American thought processes are fairly socialistic and Kerry and Edwards both are definitely the best fit for a socialist society.
I'm sure that people who are still undecided were not watching the debate. If they haven't cared enough to make a desicion yet, I doubt they'd sit through 90 minutes of a bland debate.
The best thing for us to do is stay positive about Bush's performance and point out Kerry's inconsistencies when we talk to others.
I do think that Kerry not screwing it up royally gave him the upper hand. Now at least he's still in it.
The Today show is breathlessly reporting that Kerry has convinced "swing voters" to vote for HIM. Their panel of "swing voters" (most were against the war), I think 5 of 6 said Kerry won the debate. 2 of the people said they will vote for Kerry, the rest are still undecided. If Kerry "won the debate", then why aren't more people swayed? I just wish that Bush would have been more relaxed last night. He seemed too intense and impatient. Guess it was because Pres. Bush was out all day comforting people who have lost everthing in the hurricaines......Kerry had a day at the spa getting a manacure and a reverse tan. Geez...who did Kerry's makup last night, a mortician?
That's what I've been saying. These debates aren't for us decided voters but the clueless who have no idea what's been going on. They are the audience and they are the ones Bush needed to address his answers towards. The problem last night was that he let Kerry's lies go unchallenged. The clueless will think Kerry won. Bush looked tired. Kerry looked refreshed. Comforting FL might have been a good idea last week, but it's toll certainly showed and the clueless will focus on looks rather than why they appeared as they did.
I kind of agree with this, but when the issues start really being looked at it's going to help Bush. Anybody really want the Kyoto Treaty?
Rush predicted this yesterday. The spin is this: Bush didn't hit a home run, so Kerry wins by default. We're going to hear that over and over again.
And what exactly is a "swing voter"? I've heard of "swing states", but where were these "swing voters" from? New York? California? States that are blue? Battleground states? Did they specify?
Rove knows what he's doing. The pres. is not a polished debater - the whole world knows that. But when he talks, the world listens. Every world leader knows that what he lacks in style, he more than makes up for in substance. They know not to screw around with him, and that he's a man of his word - to their benefit if they trust him, to their detriment if they try to undermine him.
By Monday morning, people are going to still be wondering what John Kerry would have done differently in Iraq, short of not going there at all. Most Americans don't want a President who's ready to cut-and-run. Bush was clear that this hard road is worth going down.
Friday afternoon, people will be asking Kerry about his plan to send nuclear fuel to the Iranian mullahs.
Let's be honest. Kerry has an unhealthy obsession with the real JFK. If our media were not so biased, they would charge Kerry with mental masturbation of the JFK's Presidency.
Bingo.
liberalmediaspeak: "a draw" or "too close to call"=the Republican won.
It could have been a trick to try to trip up Bush. They probably expected Bush to say something along the lines of..."Well, the reason I sent the troops to protect the oil facilities instead of the nuclear facilities is becuase of..."
And then Kerry would have jumped down his throat: "Aha! Mr. Bush, there were NO nuclear facilities in Iraq!"
The Reagan referance WAS disgraceful-
Bush should have said "Senator, I knew President Reagan, President Reagan was a frined of mine, and (as your 20 year senate record shows) YOU'RE NO RONALD REAGAN""
And W's pronunciation of the word Mullahs was priceless...MOOO-laas! Fred Barnes mentioned it and was cracking up.
Until they realize that Kerry wants to take everybody's nukes away, including ours and our peaceful allies.
I was disappointed in President Bush's performance. He seemed awkward, agitated and ill-prepared. He repeated the same things far too much: "It's hard work", "He voted against...", etc.
I'm still voting for him - no doubt he's by far the best man. However, I really wish he could have driven the following points home:
- He should have tied kerry's "Rushed to war based on faulty intelligence..." rhetoric to the fact that kerry is on the Intelligence Committee and missed 3/4 of the meetings post 9/11.
- He should have asked the pointed question "How can a man who failed to live up to his elected responsibilities as a senator be expected to live up to those of president?" President Bush barely made mention of kerry's Senate record - and didn't really note his lack of accomplishments.
- President Bush really needed to focus more attention to the fact that kerry and all the other democrats stomped their feet about Hussein during the clinton years saying what a grave threat he was - he should have had those direct quotes on hand and used them.
- He could have also noted all the attacks on US citizens and interests (1st WTC Bombing, Khobar Towers, Embassies in Kenya & Tanzania, and USS Cole) that were all preludes to 9/11 but were all but completely ignored by clinton, who put far too much stock in the UN's supposed ability to deal with these kinds of issues.
- I also wish he could have brought up kerry's treasonous (although he certainly couldn't use the "T" word) actions when he returned from Vietnam. kerry turned his back on his country during war and aiding the enemy. That really should have been brought out at least once.
It left me wondering what he was doing while he was "preparing" for the debate in Crawford.
Overall, I'd also say it was a draw - but the coup d' gras should have been - and easily COULD have been - administered to the kerry campaign and it simply was not.
Kerry performed well, but he exposed a few of his weak points.
He just had to mention Vietnam about half a dozen times.
He portrayed himself as a bigger hawk and bigger interventionist than Bush. He is going to fix everything evrywhere. He is going to raise taxes to fix all the world's problems.
In a magnificant Tora Bora moment, he asserted he was a better tactician than the generals on the ground in Afghanistan. In fact he is smarter than John F. Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson. He is undoubtably the smartest person that ever lived.
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