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Don’t Shoot the Messenger . . ’cause this assessment’s grim
National Review ^
| 10/01/04
| Jay Nordlinger
Posted on 09/30/2004 10:35:23 PM PDT by Pokey78
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posted on
09/30/2004 10:35:24 PM PDT
by
Pokey78
To: Pokey78
What I say may be absurd in light of the general reaction but so be it. He should have stopped his column right there.
To: Pokey78
Bush, throughout the evening, as Kerry spoke, had that pursed and annoyed look.Yes he did. Bummer.
To: Pokey78
I agree entirely with this assesment and share the authors pain in doing so. But surprisingly, the MSM doesnt appear ready to pile on...yet.
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posted on
09/30/2004 10:38:55 PM PDT
by
LongsforReagan
(Democrats =Girly Men)
To: Pokey78
The problem for Kerry may well be his mistake on the NYC subway system. That could dominate the debate coverage.
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posted on
09/30/2004 10:39:19 PM PDT
by
JLS
To: Pokey78
The late guy on KFI radio tonight says Bush won easily.
To: LongsforReagan
Really? They seem to be gleefully piling on to me. :(
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posted on
09/30/2004 10:39:31 PM PDT
by
Crazieman
(Hanoi John Effin Kerry. War Criminal. Traitor. Democrat.)
To: vbmoneyspender
As Ann Coulter stated, "its a mental disease".
To: Pokey78
I see his points but I just don't buy it. Like many media critics, he's micro-examining this, when people will get the impression, the feel of it.
To: Pokey78
I disagree. Bush might not have done his best, but overall I think he did well and it was a draw.
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posted on
09/30/2004 10:40:09 PM PDT
by
TOUGH STOUGH
(Go Swifties!!!!!!!)
To: Pokey78
This guy wrote an article this long about the debate without mentioning one salient point that will endure the night. Amazingly inept.
Think global test, providing Iran nuclear fuel, unilateral disaramament of our bunker busting program, no forward basing in Iraq, bilateral talks with Korea etc, etc.
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posted on
09/30/2004 10:40:12 PM PDT
by
jwalsh07
(Ask not what you can do for your country, ask the country what it will do for you!)
To: Pokey78
My non-political husband watched it with me, (I had to comandeer the remote), he had no expectations for either candidate but likes Bush, he had no problem giving Bush the win because SKerry never answered a question. He just said he'd do better and spend more money while saving money even though he voted against the money.
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posted on
09/30/2004 10:40:45 PM PDT
by
tiki
(Win one against the Flipper)
To: Pokey78
No, actually he was at his peak several hours earlier while he was comforting the hurricane-ravaged people of Florida... Frankls, I thought President Bush did extremely well tonight...considering the level of physical exhaustion he had to be contending with....
To: JLS
Brian Williams on MSNBC and some guys on CNN had a list of Kerry's lies, starting with the price tag for Iraq.
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posted on
09/30/2004 10:42:01 PM PDT
by
Howlin
(What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
To: jwalsh07
"Think global test, providing Iran nuclear fuel, unilateral disaramament of our bunker busting program, no forward basing in Iraq, bilateral talks with Korea etc, etc."
I think you're right. I've been all around the net, had phone calls from friends who don't share my politics, and these things have been brought up. The DETAILS remembered from this night will be Kerry's damning positions.
To: JLS
The problem for Kerry may well be his mistake on the NYC subway system. That could dominate the debate coverage.This story should be on the front page of the New York Post tomorrow morning.
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posted on
09/30/2004 10:43:07 PM PDT
by
demnomo
(Bush is all hot in a flight suit. Kerry is all wet in a wet suit.)
To: jwalsh07
I already forgot the debate. So will most people. Now we will see the sound bites. They count more. I have written and read so much I forgot the style, really.
To: Pokey78
Well, if he would vote for Kerry because of this debate, then what he says isn't worth much. Again, and most likely again I will say that the questions posed were designed to put Bush on the defense, none were posed to put Kerry anywhere but on the attack. Kerry who always whines about the Attack dogs of the right, was in need of a muzzle himself.
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posted on
09/30/2004 10:43:24 PM PDT
by
ladyinred
("John Kerry reporting for spitball and typewriter duty.")
To: LongsforReagan
I agree entirely with this assesment and share the authors pain in doing so. But surprisingly, the MSM doesnt appear ready to pile on...yet. They will. As soon as they smell blood in the water, they will.
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posted on
09/30/2004 10:43:26 PM PDT
by
Prime Choice
(It is dangerous to be right when wicked is called 'good.')
To: Pokey78
But tonight (I am writing immediately post-debate) did not show him at his best. Not at all. He will do better I feel certain in subsequent debates. I also worry that they count less
Yet another supposed Republican so hung up on style he missed the substance. Kerry may make these people all weak in the knees with his formal debating style, but on substance he blew it. In a post 9-11 world the average voter doesn't want to hear about "Global tests and Bi-lateral talks"
2nd. I wouldn't be so sure Kerry even one on style. Kerry's "I'm so vain" style of relentless self promotion may make the media elite all agog but it does nothing to raise Kerry's Likability factor. Kerry came across as a self-rightous Monday Morning quarterback blow hard. I suspect his rating with women will drop a bit again after this debate.
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posted on
09/30/2004 10:43:34 PM PDT
by
MNJohnnie
(Vote Bush 2004-We have the solutions, Kerry Democrats? Nothing but slogans)
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