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Keeping Score: A round-by-round look at how Bush and Kerry did during the debate.
The Weekly Standard ^ | 10/01/04 | Jonathan V. Last

Posted on 09/30/2004 9:27:18 PM PDT by Pokey78

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To: Pokey78

Tonight the debate was a draw..

After the word gets out that Kerry wants to give Iran nukes and make us "pass a global test" to defend our selves.. well.. you could say that its a bush win. :)


41 posted on 09/30/2004 10:09:36 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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To: xzins

Bush

Bush

A lot of people are spinning. Bush is the President. He has to know this stuff cold. He sounded defensive and distracted. It matters not a wit to me. I'll be driving shut-in Republicans to the polls on November 2nd. Nevertheless, Bush should have kicked Kerry's a$$ all over the stage. It isn't as though he doesn't have ammunition: Kerry has done NOTHING in the Senate for 20 years. Kerry aided and abetted our enemies during the Viet Nam war. Kerry takes two sides on every issue. Kerry has voted against our troups on any occasion given to him. Bush should have flambe'd him. Period.


42 posted on 09/30/2004 10:09:59 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy (It's a fight to the death with Democrats.)
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To: Howlin

Ok just to make you feel good Ill lie to myself and you and say he was articulate and agressive and convincing .Ok happy...? He could have put that horses ass Kerry away tonight and he didnt . Yes, I know Kerry is full of it but the general TV folk out there who dont read a lot and dont have the political savy we may have on this blog site may not see it all that way ..He really didnt look good at all and let some choice opportunities slip by him . Sorry pal , I was dissapointed and so were many other loyal Bush supporters in here tonight .


43 posted on 09/30/2004 10:10:20 PM PDT by omstrat (NJ/NYC republican)
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44 posted on 09/30/2004 10:11:21 PM PDT by nutmeg ("The DemocRATic party...has been hijacked by a confederacy of gangsters..." - Pat Caddell, 11/27/00)
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To: joyce11111

Jesus tap dancing Christ, Kerry can't even bulls*** correctly.


45 posted on 09/30/2004 10:12:45 PM PDT by mbennett203
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

I agree ..but he didnt..He let a LOT slide by him ..What gives? He could have SLAMMED HIM Is he trying to be a NICE guy here ? He should have slammed the uN as the do nothing waste of space it is the SECOND Kerry mentioned the UN ..I had to leave the room 3 times tonight ..


46 posted on 09/30/2004 10:13:25 PM PDT by omstrat (NJ/NYC republican)
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To: mbennett203

Watch it now.


47 posted on 09/30/2004 10:14:32 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

And THAT alone says it all in a nutshell.


48 posted on 09/30/2004 10:15:05 PM PDT by anglian
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To: omstrat
but the general TV folk out there who dont read a lot and dont have the political savy we may have on this blog site may not see it all that way .

Perhaps you better leave this thread and read some of the polls and articles being posted before you keep saying Bush looked so bad.

And this is NOT a blog. Period.

49 posted on 09/30/2004 10:16:06 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Pokey78

The fact that Bush bumbles is nothing new to anyone. People who support him do so because of what he stands for, not how he articulates his stance. As an aside, this was Bush's worst debate format by FAR. He will get better as they go. By the time November comes around, nobody will give this debate a second thought. Furthermore, this idea of the undecided voter has got to be a joke. The people who haven't truly made up their minds are not the ones that will carry the day on Nov. 2. It will be us and the people we drag to the polls. Most of the undecideds are voting for Kerry anyway. Remember, they are dead and they don't catch the news very often. Just another part of the uninformed Dim base. Sorry for rambling.


50 posted on 09/30/2004 10:17:40 PM PDT by Clump
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To: snarkytart

I had a class tonight so I didn't see the debate --- but it doesn't look like Kerry said anything that would make anyone vote for him who already wasn't voting for him --- it sounds like he pretty much admits that he would really do nothing about terrorism --- he's got to please the Muslims and the UN no matter what --- even if he says that very stylishly --- that's still what he's saying.


51 posted on 09/30/2004 10:18:01 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

But in doing so he CANNOT look like a whiner. It would be extremely useful if he could bring up something Kerry said that is the exact opposite of something Kerry's just finished saying, but he can't go back in time to the last debate.

I don't think there are nearly the number of independent voters out there that the pollsters do, either. And those folks are the voters who will be voting depending on what bad news is heard on the morning of Nov. 2. Debates aren't something they're watching. They're watching gas prices. And damn, are they high right now.


52 posted on 09/30/2004 10:19:06 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: mbennett203

No need for blasphemy here at FR. That is not something most freepers appreciate.


53 posted on 09/30/2004 10:19:34 PM PDT by Clump
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To: Clump
Round 18: Did Bush misjudge Vladimir Putin? President Bush thinks that it's important to have good personal relationships with former KGB agents as they try to roll back important civil freedoms. This way you can disagree constructively. Kerry doesn't have a better answer, but did get a neat-o tour of KGB headquarters right after the fall of the Soviet Union. Round to Kerry

Round to Kerry? For telling a story about touring a Nazi Extermination Camp and confusing it with KGB HQ? Or is that telling a story about KGB HQ and confusing it with a Nazi Exterrmination Camp? I'm confused, but definitely not a win for Kerry.

54 posted on 09/30/2004 10:19:45 PM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: Howlin

I'm stating MY opinion , nothing more. Im sorry , I dont think he did very well at all tonight . I think I have the right to say that , even on here. He could have put this race in his pocket tonight and he didnt . He let Kerry off the ropes a number of times . I still feel that many folks did't see Bush as being very strong tonight at all.He repeated himself and really struggled with some answers.I had enough for one night at this point.Bummed out as it is here.


55 posted on 09/30/2004 10:21:09 PM PDT by omstrat (NJ/NYC republican)
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To: omstrat

Even if he in lying in wait for the other debates, he has NO business being uncertain of himself in front of the nation. He should be above all this, and instead sounded like he was disconnnected and couldn't express himself.


56 posted on 09/30/2004 10:21:21 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy (It's a fight to the death with Democrats.)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

I know , very dissapointing to say the least. He had a few chances to really SLAM Kerry ..and didnt .


57 posted on 09/30/2004 10:22:56 PM PDT by omstrat (NJ/NYC republican)
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To: jtmac40

I think Bush is going to pull into the lead.


58 posted on 09/30/2004 10:23:17 PM PDT by Time4Atlas2Shrug (I have an opinion and a modem.)
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To: omstrat

Answer to your question:

Yes, he is trying to be a nice guy. Remember that the debates are more about style than substance. Nixon won on radio, JFK on tv, and Bush will win this election if J F'in K looks like he is, a horse's ass, and Bush looks like he is, plain folks.

If Bush blasts Kerry women don't like it. And this is the demographic that will electorally put Kerry away.

I hate to watch the prevent defense, but politics ain't football. While we don't want Bush to turn into Dewey, and take it easy, we also can't have him turning into a firebrand rabid-anti-Kerry-ite. That would turn off more voters than it drives to the polls.

Let Kerry slap Bush around in this debate. The next two are far more important. If Bush cleans JFinK's clock in the last one, or even is perceived as doing better than JFinK, barring surprises, he's gonna be the favorite.

Would help if gas were cheaper, though.


59 posted on 09/30/2004 10:24:20 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Clump

Your rambling all made sense. Well said.


60 posted on 09/30/2004 10:25:16 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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