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Putin wants to strip Russians of voting right
straitstimes.asia1.com ^ | 10/1/2004 | straitstimes.asia1.com

Posted on 09/30/2004 9:02:58 PM PDT by watchout

Putin wants to strip Russians of voting right MOSCOW - President Vladimir Putin, seeking to overturn post-Soviet institutions, is about to submit a draft law to scrap Russians' right to elect regional leaders, a senior parliamentarian said yesterday.

The reform is part of Mr Putin's plan to bolster central authority after a militant attack in Beslan left more than 320 hostages died.

'The law will be sent to the Duma's council today or tomorrow,' said deputy Vyacheslav Volodin of the United Russia party.

The draft calls for governors to be appointed by the president.

But opinion polls showed it was widely unpopular. Critics described the change as a cynical power-grab exploiting the Beslan tragedy to increase Kremlin power. -- AP


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: powergrab; putin; votingright
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1 posted on 09/30/2004 9:02:59 PM PDT by watchout
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To: watchout
"Putin wants to strip Russians of voting right MOSCOW - President Vladimir Putin, seeking to overturn post-Soviet institutions, is about to submit a draft law to scrap Russians' right to elect regional leaders"

And so it begins.
2 posted on 09/30/2004 9:05:49 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: watchout

It is too sad that we had Clinton as President during the 90s. If we had had a more hawkish foreign policy President, we might have helped Russia recover from its post Communist blues in a more permanent manner.


3 posted on 09/30/2004 9:12:54 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: watchout

Bush ought to raise hell about this in public.

That power-grabbing KGB er just can't help himself.


4 posted on 09/30/2004 9:21:19 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er ({about the news media} "We'll tell you any sh** you want hear" : Howard Beale --> NETWORK)
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To: watchout

And I heard on CBC that Putin approved the Kyota treaty today.


5 posted on 09/30/2004 9:22:49 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Le Power Grab, monsieur.


6 posted on 09/30/2004 9:24:32 PM PDT by Semaphore Heathcliffe
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To: coconutt2000
With regard to your post 33, I am not so sure. I was born and lived there, and I would posit the following rhetorical question:
Russian people created the following proverb describing the way of life in Russia: "Ya nachal'nik - ty der'mo, ty nachal'nik - ya der'mo"
["If I am the boss, you are POS; if you are the boss - I am POS"]. The proverb describes its underlying reality adequately. Do such people deserve any rights?
7 posted on 09/30/2004 9:30:31 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: watchout
But opinion polls showed it was widely unpopular. Critics described the change as a cynical power-grab exploiting the Beslan tragedy to increase Kremlin power.

I guess the next step is to see whether "the people" have enough moxy to stand up to Putin, and say NO...

Sometime, somewhere, the Duma is going to have to insist on drawing a line in the sand, and insist that PUTIN stay within his defined powers..
Attempting a power grab does not insure success..
This move could be a total failure and backlash badly on Putin..

8 posted on 09/30/2004 9:33:09 PM PDT by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: GSlob

I think one of the fundamental flaws of policy toward Russia during the 1990s were the blank foreign aid checks, which encouraged corruption and the reemergence of the old Soviet power mongers.

Every emerging Republic needs its George Washington, or Cincinnatus. Clinton's foreign policy was one of stability over freedom, and that is consistent with France, Germany, and now Russia.

As for Russians deserving freedom, rights, and liberty? Well, I think our policies under Clinton didn't help them realize the gift they had. I can see Iraqis yearning for that freedom. If Kerry is President, he threatens that hope and optimism, and would eventually replace it with pessimism and a dream for stability, rather than a dream for freedom.


9 posted on 09/30/2004 9:37:34 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Drammach

Putin is going to be Tsar Vladimir eventually.


10 posted on 09/30/2004 9:39:03 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: coconutt2000

"didn't help them realize the gift they had"
I am not sure Russian people ever had that "gift". For as long as Russia existed (about 1200 years) the aforementioned proverb held true. One could even start a dissertation about Orthodox civilizational identity, along Huntington's lines. For the realization of this "gift", nothing short of transculturation is needed.


11 posted on 09/30/2004 9:46:32 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: coconutt2000
It is too sad that we had Clinton as President during the 90s.......

Hell! This is what the KlinToon was hoping for!
(Commie Bastard!)

12 posted on 09/30/2004 9:50:04 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Finalapproach29er
Bush ought to raise hell about this in public.

Are you series????

13 posted on 09/30/2004 9:53:08 PM PDT by Nov3 (They knifed babies, They raped girls, They forced children to drink their own urine)
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To: JSteff
> And so it begins.

Sadly, I must agree. I've been saying since the early 1990s that Soviet communism might be gone, but Soviet totalitarianism was merely sleeping, awaiting the right time for reemergence. As the years went by, I thought perhaps I was wrong, but my old fears were awakened when Putin came into power.

We shall see what the future holds.

14 posted on 09/30/2004 10:01:28 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: watchout

The red star will rise again.


15 posted on 09/30/2004 10:43:28 PM PDT by Imal (Today, Iraqis are enjoying the kind of freedom Americans haven't had in over a century.)
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To: Imal

its not the red star i fear...it is old mother russian bear that i fear


16 posted on 10/01/2004 12:19:48 AM PDT by MetalHeadConservative35 (First Freep and i go and get myself lost!!! :()
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To: Finalapproach29er
Bush ought to raise hell about this in public. That power-grabbing KGB er just can't help himself.

Why not to raise hell about Poland? Regional executives in Poland also are nominated by the central government and Parliament is elected through the party lists (as Putin wants for Duma). And same is with many other European countries.

17 posted on 10/06/2004 7:51:24 PM PDT by A. Pole (<SARCASM>M. Albright:"We are the indispensable nation.We stand tall.We see further into the future.")
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To: Drammach; ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; FITZ; ...
Sometime, somewhere, the Duma is going to have to insist on drawing a line in the sand, and insist that PUTIN stay within his defined powers.

Duma did draw a line in 1993 to refuse the transfer of national assets into hands of mafia and foreign speculators. The answer was the massacre of Duma at the request of Western mass media and free marketeers. Putin is restoring the democracy by setting a strong presidential republic in the style of De Gaulle. Russia needs a strong leader same way as France needed him in 1958:

Encyclopedia: Fifth Republic
 
{{History_of_France}} The Fifth Republic is
the period of the fifth and current republican
constitution of France, which was introduced
on October 5, 1958. The Fifth Republic emerged
from the ashes of the French Fourth Republic,
replacing a weak and factional parliamentary
government with a stronger, more centralized
democracy.
[...]
The former general Charles de Gaulle used
the crisis as an opportunity to create a new
French government with a stronger office
of President, 
[...]
Although the method and intents of de Gaulle
in that referendum were highly contested by
most political groups except for the Gaullists,
the change was approved by the French electorate.
[...]

18 posted on 10/06/2004 8:07:47 PM PDT by A. Pole (Madeleine Albright: "... one of my role models, Xena, the warrior princess, comes from[New Zealand]")
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To: Centurion2000
Putin is going to be Tsar Vladimir eventually.

Or rather play the role of a regent like General Franco who restored monarchy in Spain.

19 posted on 10/06/2004 8:12:25 PM PDT by A. Pole (Madeleine Albright: "... one of my role models, Xena, the warrior princess, comes from[New Zealand]")
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To: A. Pole; Finalapproach29er

You will cconfuse Finalapproach29er even more by pointing out Poland is now ruled by our allies - the reformed communist party of Poland - the same party that busted up Solidarity - which was defeated in democratic elections in a landslide.


20 posted on 10/06/2004 8:45:11 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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