Fast enough for the conservative talkers tomorrow...even early enough for Bill Bennett!
This debate did not go particularly well. By his own admission, Bush is not a great debater. Kerry was the better speaker, though I give Bush the edge on substance.
I think Kerry helped himself with some undecided voters who had leaned towards him earlier in the year. But otherwise, I don't see the debate having much impact on the race.
"I said he lied before I said he didn't lie"
You know I'm kinda frustrated on why Bush didn't whack Kerry up the side of the head a couple times, but you know I think there was a reason for this....
First, without saying too much, Bush didn't say anything patently false like Kerry did. Second, he wanted to beat home a couple specific messages. Do you remember Kerry's nuanced responses or do you remember Bush in saying Kerry couldn't keep one position, or that his wrong war, wrong time was the wrong message to give troops and allies? Finally, Bush came off as a "normal" guy who has a strength of convictions. Kerry kind of came off as the lecturing professor like algore did 4 years ago.
I was pissed originally, now I don't feel so bad and in fact I think Kerry gave Bush a lot of fodder going down the road, Bush gave Kerry nothing... What is the Kerry campaign to knock on the President without sounding pessimistic or rude?
Strike 2 -
TOMMY FRANKS ON CNN: Osama bin Laden is not in Afghanistan, as Senator Kerry said he is.
On lacking a plan for winning the peace: "If you read my book, you'll find I mention a term called 'catastrophic success.' It's a good news thing. . . . But it takes a long time to bring stability to a place that hasn't known stability for a long time. It's inaccurate to say that there was not a plan . . . but some in our media built expectations that that would happen more quickly than was possible."
Strike 3 -
NORTH KOREA:
The US and China have said they were confident North Korea will return to six-party talks to end the stand-off over Pyongyang's nuclear programmes.
US State Secretary Colin Powell said after talks with Chinese Foreign Minister Li Zhaoxing the format was "what we should be concentrating on".
Mr Li described the talks as the "only feasible and correct option"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3705948.stm
Right.
It is easy to win a debate when you lie. President Bush can not do that. He is ahead in the polls he has to be very carefull.
Thanks for posting this. You Sir, are a good soldier in this war against the left!
Bush needed to get across the message that Saddam was harboring terrorist and sponsoring terrorism and that he was more vital to the war on terror than Osama bin Laden.
He isn't doing it. So we need to do it.
Here is an easy to read chart of what the media was saying pre-911 (and after): Connect the Dots...Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden. Send it to your friends and family. And the media.
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Ketchupman's memory equals Bubba's and the Hildebeast's.
Kerry said that there was a difference between opposing the war and the warrior. And he implied that he could support the warrior without supporting the war. But au contraire, Kerry was against the war in Vietnam and came home and attacked the warriors. That quote should be used in future swift boat ads.
And this is news? 
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That is nothing new.
John Kery lies in his sleep.
John Kerry is a democrat. All democrats have liarites.
They cannot help it. If the deocto told them the next lie they told would kill them, they would not make it out of the examinating room alive.
John Kerry started off lying and finished lying.
Why the Republicans agreed on this moderator is beyond my powers of comprension.
Kerry was lying on almost every question, making up the facts as they suited his argument.
And this is news? Isn't lying part of being a Democrat? Tell me you're not surprised!
Kerry lies like O.J. Simpson. "Not guilty 1000 per cent." "Seared, SEARED in my memory." "Never, EVER used the harshest word."
Kerry is toast! His reference to the Iraq war as a "grand diversion", his emphasis on passing a "Global Test" with the world will not go well with Americans!
Can't wait for Rush, Sean to shred him to pieces!
FOUR MORE YEARS!!!