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1 posted on 09/30/2004 8:17:24 PM PDT by ElRushbo
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what instant polls?


2 posted on 09/30/2004 8:22:53 PM PDT by cajungirl (Jammies Up!!)
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someone ought to call CSPAN and make people aware of what this means---


3 posted on 09/30/2004 8:23:17 PM PDT by ElRushbo (Harley Riders against Elton John)
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What was market response to hurricanes, or possibly iraqi oil line sabotage as a comparison?


5 posted on 09/30/2004 8:24:09 PM PDT by pipecorp ("never know where you're going till you get there." the philosopher Insectus Harem)
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The market is usually totally dead this time of night. The media always will hide the fact that a Kerry win would trash the stock market. During the Gore Florida lawsuit frenzy, every pro-Gore news collapsed the market, and every pro-Bush news rallied it big. CNBC would sit there and say "look at this wild volitility", but would never admit to it's viewers that the market was trading off a fear of a Bush loss. The media will never tell the truth this time either.


6 posted on 09/30/2004 8:24:41 PM PDT by RandDisciple
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Didn't the Kerry campaign say to spin, spin, spin?


7 posted on 09/30/2004 8:25:06 PM PDT by BunnySlippers ("F" Stands for FLIP-FLOP ...)
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Was there ever any doubt?

Money will be lost everywhere, for the common good.

Are you THE ElRushbo, or do you just want to get lots of replies from the girls? :^)


8 posted on 09/30/2004 8:25:19 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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I was surprised by how stable the futures were during the debate. The S&P is headed down now, as you say, but I'm not sure if the timing is suspicious or not.
9 posted on 09/30/2004 8:26:53 PM PDT by steve86
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Instant polls are bogus because the DNC sent out mass emails today with all the URLs and talking points and URL for the votes this afternoon, telling everyone to get their votes ready to fire the minute the debate was over. No one cares about internet polls!


15 posted on 09/30/2004 8:30:05 PM PDT by Eva
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"The market broke 3 full points as soon as the media instant polls were reported showing a win for Kerry

That is a minor change. Only 30 DJI points at most.

24 posted on 09/30/2004 8:47:11 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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Markets LOVE certainty. John Kerry reeks of uncertainty.


28 posted on 09/30/2004 9:56:04 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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Yeeeha! Good stock prices for the buying tommorrow!


30 posted on 09/30/2004 9:57:05 PM PDT by right way right
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It's means if the Whitehouse switches politcal parties, the market does an el dumpo. It happens everytime around presdential election time...nothing new about that.

What is new is: this will trigger the credit bubble to implode which is weighed down by a record huge deficit. Then your going to see the el dumpo of all el dumpos and will make Black Monday look like a day at Disneyland.

So elect spendthrift taxamania Kerry and watch the economy fall into the abyss...

32 posted on 09/30/2004 10:32:13 PM PDT by Rain-maker
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1232070/posts?page=1,20

Kerry Lied in Debate
gop.com ^ | 9-30-04 | GOP.COM


Posted on 09/30/2004 8:23:01 PM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh


KERRY CLAIMS HE'S "NEVER, EVER" USED WORD "LYING" IN REFERENCE TO PRESIDENT BUSH ON IRAQ.



JIM LEHRER: "New question, Senator Kerry. Two minutes. You've repeatedly accused President Bush, not here tonight but elsewhere before, of not telling the truth about Iraq. Essentially, of lying to the American people about Iraq. Give us some examples of what you consider to be his not telling the truth."
SEN. KERRY: "Well, I've never, ever used the harshest word as you just did." (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)



BUT IN DECEMBER 2003, KERRY TOLD NEW HAMPSHIRE EDITORIAL BOARD BUSH "LIED" ABOUT REASON FOR GOING TO WAR IN IRAQ. "Kerry also told a New Hampshire newspaper editorial board Friday that Bush had 'lied' about his reasons for going to war in Iraq, a word Kerry has been reluctant to use publicly for months. Yesterday he said he did not plan to use the word again." (Patrick Healy, "Kerry Camp Lowers N.H. Expectations Behind In Polls, Senator Now Seeks Spot In 'Top Two,'" The Boston Globe, 12/8/03)



AND IN SEPTEMBER 2003, KERRY SAID BUSH ADMINISTRATION "LIED" AND "MISLED." "This administration has lied to us. They have misled us. And they have broken their promises to us. The president promised to the people and the Congress that he would build an international coalition, respect the United Nations' process and only go to war as a last resort. I will tell you that from my war fighting experience, I believe there is a test for a president as to how you go to war. And that test is whether or not you can look in the eyes of parents and say to them, 'I did everything possible to avoid the loss of your son and daughter, but we had no other choice in order to protect the security of our nation,' and I know this president fails that test in Iraq." (Sen. John Kerry, Campaign Event, Claremont, NH, 9/20/03)




I think that GW and his team decided to let Kerry just go for it during the first 2/3's.

The Republicans have fact checkers vetting every answer, response and utterance that Kerry made tonight.

We will see many of those answers, responses, and utternances in hard hitting ads for our side.

This will set the stage for debates 2 and 3. If Kerry repeats himself re bad answers, responses and utterances in debate #2, he will have defeated himself with his own mouth. Kerry's responses will become great ads for GW.


33 posted on 09/30/2004 11:07:28 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will the ABCNNBC BS lunatic libs stop Rathering to Americans? Answer: NEVER!)
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The latest line on the Iwoa Electronic Market Numbers indicate a debate win for GW"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1232235/posts

Latest IEM Electronic Market Numbers In (Bush Reverses Pre-Debate Decline, wins "Debate Day"
Iowa Electronic Market ^ | September 30th, 2004 | Remember_Salamis


Posted on 09/30/2004 10:32:18 PM PDT by Remember_Salamis

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1232235/posts


34 posted on 09/30/2004 11:11:32 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will the ABCNNBC BS lunatic libs stop Rathering to Americans? Answer: NEVER!)
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Three points. That ain't much. I'm dubious about these things being connected.


41 posted on 10/01/2004 2:22:33 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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I was wondering about this. It will be interesting to see what happens today.


45 posted on 10/01/2004 5:54:47 AM PDT by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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Fox News just had it reverse (one of the Cashin In guys was one). He said Wall Street will decide who won by it's movement.
If Wall Street goes up, the incumbent won the debate.
If Wall Street goes down, the candidate won the debate.
It makes more sense that way, as everyone knows uncertainty would bring down the market, and consistency would not.


46 posted on 10/01/2004 5:54:55 AM PDT by mabelkitty (Troll-Patrol! You've been warned.)
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Anyone - all of us included - that declare a winner in a political debate are only communicating what they thought before the debate started. In the case of the media, we know where they stand.


47 posted on 10/01/2004 5:57:14 AM PDT by IamConservative (A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.)
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There has been no discernable movement on Bush 2004 at Tradesports.


53 posted on 10/01/2004 6:33:50 AM PDT by Plutarch
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Well, you blew that one on the opening.

Every index is positive except Gold/silver and Oil.

Things could change and will change during the day, but your gold bug theory about the S&P plummeting at the openeing went down in flames at the opening.

http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/markets/indexes.asp


54 posted on 10/01/2004 6:35:14 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will the ABCNNBC BS lunatic libs stop Rathering to Americans? Answer: NEVER!)
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