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Teen Suspended for Smoke Smell
WXIA-TV ATLANTA ^ | 9/27/2004 9:34:50 PM | Kay Flowers

Posted on 09/29/2004 5:28:16 AM PDT by closet freeper

A Rockdale County father is fuming over his daughter’s in-school suspension. He said the teen’s only crime was simply smelling like smoke. Salem High School said it was standing by its strict no-smoking policy.

Carlton Bates said his 17-year-old daughter, Amanda, went to the office at Salem and told an assistant principal she had an upset stomach.

The administrator there “grabbed her shirt, smelled it, started smelling her hair and said, ‘You’ve been smoking,’ and my daughter replied, ‘I haven’t been smoking, I don’t smoke,’” Bates said.

“She was not caught smoking, she was accused of smelling like smoke and put on five days’ suspension for that reason,” he added.

Salem’s principal Robert Cresswell stood by the school’s policy.

“Basically the girl smelled very strongly of smoke and we handled it as consistently and fair as we normally handle things,” he said.

Cresswell said the rules were no smoking or possession of smoking paraphernalia on campus. Smelling like smoke is not a violation but “we assume if you smell strongly of smoke, you’ve been smoking,” he said.

The girl’s father said he does not condone kids’ smoking, but he believes Amanda may have just been around friends who smoked off campus before school.

“She’s never been in trouble with that school system. We’ve talked to her teachers, they love the kid. She’s been a good daughter to us and I believe her,” Bates said. “If she says she’s not smoking, she’s not smoking.”

Bates has written the Rockdale County School Board asking for an apology and his daughter’s record to be cleared.

Amanda’s suspension is effective immediately. Principal Cresswell said the in-school suspension will not be a permanent entry on Amanda’s school transcripts.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: controlfreaks; discipline; dumbasspublicschools; powermongers; publicschool; publicschools; pufflist; rockdalecounty; salemhighschool; teens; zerotolerance
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To: closet freeper
Cresswell said the rules were no smoking or possession of smoking paraphernalia on campus. Smelling like smoke is not a violation but “we assume if you smell strongly of smoke, you’ve been smoking,” he said.

This is a BIG assumption.

21 posted on 09/29/2004 5:42:46 AM PDT by brewcrew
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To: Lonely NY Conservative

She was smoking.



5 posted on 09/29/2004 5:31:30 AM PDT by Lonely NY Conservative
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And what evidence do you have other than the assumption of some Pin Head overbearing Moron with a teaching degree?


22 posted on 09/29/2004 5:43:05 AM PDT by Area51 (Diapers and Politicians need to be changed-For the same reason)
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To: ClintonBeGone; closet freeper
unbelievable
23 posted on 09/29/2004 5:43:54 AM PDT by The Mayor (Right thinking leads to right living.)
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To: closet freeper

My woodshop teacher/Lacrosse coach had the coolest water bong in the woodshop building. He didn't mind if students used it as long as they shared their weed. We could smoke right in the woodshop. This was a prep school, and I graduated in '84.


24 posted on 09/29/2004 5:46:22 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance ( "Stay safe in the "sandbox", cuz!)
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To: closet freeper

“Basically the girl smelled very strongly of smoke and we handled it as consistently and fair as we normally handle things,” he said.




Wow, an expample of how they handle things? GUILTY! GUILTY! GUILTY! The transformation is complete.

The Nazis do indeed run the schools.


Ve have vays of making you talk!


25 posted on 09/29/2004 5:46:31 AM PDT by Area51 (Diapers and Politicians need to be changed-For the same reason)
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To: Alia

"innocent until proven guilty' is a standard applicable ONLY in criminal court. In civil court you may indeed have to prove your innocence. In the court of public opinion 'you're damned just because I say so'!!


26 posted on 09/29/2004 5:46:38 AM PDT by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: ladylib
Look, first off I'm generally appalled by smoking nazi bans and tactics, and if I'm this girls father I might quietly contest the suspension as it does seem that it could be something that goes on the girl's record. However, I would be grilling her on the question of her smoking. If in my best judgment she smelled like smoke because she was hanging out with friends who smoked I would explain to her that she should be mad at her friends, as it was their failure to follow the rules which landed her in trouble. Furthermore, she should impress on them that if they choose to smoke around her at school, potentially getting her in trouble again, she should walk away. If they continue, she can find new friends.

My gut tells me the girl was probably smoking and the father's first instinct was to defend her - understandable, but you're sending the wrong message. If she's telling the truth and got suspended it still sends a reasonable message about choosing one's friends. I don't see the upside, from a parenting point of view, of running to the news media about this. Watch for the lawyers crawling out of their wormholes next, and eventually the girl will fess up and tell everyone that she actually was smoking. All she learned was that she could snap her fingers and have the world revolve around her.

27 posted on 09/29/2004 5:48:57 AM PDT by Lonely NY Conservative
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To: closet freeper

I hope this dad sues the district, the school, and the principal; wins a ton of dough; and that the principal gets reassigned to teaching remedial social studies.


28 posted on 09/29/2004 5:49:00 AM PDT by zook
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

That's a thought. It's so dangerous to send kids to public schools that have these policies. Too many kids' academic careers and futures have been destroyed by asinine zero-brains policies and the idiots who enforce them. There are too many stupid school administrators today.


29 posted on 09/29/2004 5:49:08 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: Alia
OH C'MON!!! What happened to "innocent until proven guilty"???

That only applies in US courts of law, and then only theoretically. Schools are dictatorships, so different rules apply.

30 posted on 09/29/2004 5:49:51 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: dhuffman@awod.com

It does seem that way. And its usually liberals damning everyone else while simultaneously handwringing all over MSM about the lack of "civility". WAAAH!


31 posted on 09/29/2004 5:50:08 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Lonely NY Conservative

No wonder you're lonely.


32 posted on 09/29/2004 5:51:42 AM PDT by basil
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

I smell a LAWSUIT..........


33 posted on 09/29/2004 5:52:08 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you shoot from the hip enough times, eventually you'll shoot yourself in the a$$......)
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To: closet freeper

Wow...we were able to smoke across the street from my high school, as long as it wasn't on school grounds...it was OK. Convienent store morning coffee and a cig...those were the days.


34 posted on 09/29/2004 5:53:02 AM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" - Hillary Clinton)
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To: closet freeper

 

These girls are definitely smokin'...


35 posted on 09/29/2004 5:53:03 AM PDT by Fintan (Oh...am I supposed to read the article???)
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To: Lonely NY Conservative
She was smoking.

My gut tells me the girl was probably smoking

Two very, very different statements.

If she was probably smoking, you take her to the woodshed at home, not allow some nazi administrator do it for you. That's called abdicating your parental responsibilities.

36 posted on 09/29/2004 5:53:15 AM PDT by brewcrew
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

"Equal outcome is the desired result: ethnic majority kids should be punished at least as often as ethnic minority kids."

Ayn Rand wrote of this type of dictatorial control: Make so many laws that anyone might be guilty of something. Since no one can know exactly what is legal because of so many laws, there is a pervasive guilt and fear in each person. It becomes safer to rat out a neighbor or family member in order to shield oneself from accusation and prosecution. Every person becomes mutually enslaved to every other person - not just through socialist/communist economics - but through basic social/leagal interaction. This is Slavery, plain and simple. Zero tolerance will be used to brutalize you and your family.


37 posted on 09/29/2004 5:54:11 AM PDT by Socratic (Kerry/Edwards - Forging a New Reality)
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To: closet freeper

Here is a classic case of zero tolerence. I don't know if the principle is liberal or conservative but he has been influenced by a religious doctrine called liberal fundamentalism.


38 posted on 09/29/2004 5:54:16 AM PDT by feedback doctor (I know the tender mercies of the Lord)
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To: closet freeper
"Cresswell said the rules were no smoking or possession of smoking paraphernalia on campus. Smelling like smoke is not a violation but “we assume if you smell strongly of smoke, you’ve been smoking,” he said."

I use the "smell" test on people all the time.

If they smell like Dimocrats, I immediately leave the area.

39 posted on 09/29/2004 5:54:53 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: Fintan

And they are all looking at me!


40 posted on 09/29/2004 5:57:55 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, UN hating, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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