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Times Sues Prosecutor on Phone Records
The New York Times ^ | September 29, 2004 | ADAM LIPTAK

Posted on 09/29/2004 1:16:11 AM PDT by publius1

The prosecutor, Patrick J. Fitzgerald, the United States attorney in Chicago, is investigating a leak and has said he intends to seek the reporters' records from their phone companies. Mr. Fitzgerald contends that one or more government officials alerted the reporters, Judith Miller and Philip Shenon, to an imminent search of the offices of an Islamic charity. That disclosure, he has written to lawyers for The Times, was probably criminal...

In a letter in August to Mr. Comey, two lawyers for The Times, Floyd Abrams and Kenneth W. Starr, wrote that the records the government seeks, for some 20 days in the fall of 2001, might reflect hundreds of communications between the reporters and their sources "on a vast array of vitally important and controversial matters."

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: kennethstarr; kenstarr; whyisthisexcerpted
A federal prosecutor trying to get phone records re potential disclosures by Times reporters to Global Relief just prior to a raid in 2001. I weas reading along fine until I saw this sentence: "In a letter in August to Mr. Comey, two lawyers for The Times, Floyd Abrams and Kenneth W. Starr..."

Ken Starr? My God! Didn't the Times spend a good chunk of its resources in the 90's villifying him as the worst person since Torquemada?

1 posted on 09/29/2004 1:16:11 AM PDT by publius1
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To: publius1

"Trust Starr." - - quidam


2 posted on 09/29/2004 1:18:47 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: publius1
The REAL title of this sarticle:

Times Sues Prosecutor on Phone Records

3 posted on 09/29/2004 1:20:57 AM PDT by BunnySlippers ("F" Stands for FLIP-FLOP ...)
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To: publius1

Ken Starr is a good man; this is about the 1st Amendment for Starr; it's not about the New York Times. Ken Starr and Floyd Abrams also teamed up to argue against the McCain-Feingold campaign finance law before the lower federal courts and then the Supreme Court. Unfortunately, they lost, I think by 1 vote.

Interesting though, that when the Times needs legal help it turns to the man it used to portray, and not just on the editorial page, as an out of control right-wing whack-job.


4 posted on 09/29/2004 1:35:20 AM PDT by BCrago66
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To: BCrago66; publius1
Starr seems to still be with Kirkland & Ellis http://www.kirkland.com/ourFirm/lawyerBio.aspx?InfiniumH4ID=4963&employeeH4ID=24771&attorneyH4ID=9101

Abrams seems to be with Cahill Gordon & Reindel
http://www.cahill.com/bios/abramf.htm
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Are both firms on retainer for the Slims or are they working through an independent org?
5 posted on 09/29/2004 1:52:09 AM PDT by endthematrix (Bad news is good news for the Kerry campaign!)
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To: cyncooper

(( ping ))


6 posted on 09/29/2004 8:27:21 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
Prosecutors have also been critical of the paper's reporting. A call from Mr. Shenon to the charity on the evening of Dec. 13, 2001, the day before the planned raid, "resulted in the destruction and removal of information," according to a letter from James B. Comey, the deputy attorney general, to lawyers for The Times on Thursday.

Check out the spin. The prosecutors aren't "critical of the paper's reporting". They're alleging the reporter tipped off their target.

7 posted on 09/29/2004 8:49:57 AM PDT by cyncooper (Have I mentioned lately that I despise the media?)
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To: Lancey Howard

On Fox now.


8 posted on 09/29/2004 8:52:14 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: MamaLucci

Fox noting Miller also subpoenaed in the Plame case, but reporter Rebecca Gomez called her Valerie "Plume".

LOL

~sigh~

David Asman comments "The New York Times has a mess on their hands".

I HATE HATE HATE the term "mess" being applied to scandals like they are things that "just happened" and now must be dealt with.

HATE IT


9 posted on 09/29/2004 8:54:45 AM PDT by cyncooper (Have I mentioned lately that I despise the media?)
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Judith Miller being involved in both investigations has me perplexed.


10 posted on 09/29/2004 8:59:23 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: MamaLucci

Thanks for the heads-up.


11 posted on 09/29/2004 9:08:56 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: MamaLucci
Miller reporting beat = WMD

Plame works in counterproliferation unit of CIA

Perhaps the direction of the Plame investigation is not who leaked her wretched "name", but is she a source to reporters like, say, Judith Miller. (I am just theorizing here, of course.)

Note from the article:

The prosecutor, Patrick J. Fitzgerald, the United States attorney in Chicago, is investigating a leak and has said he intends to seek the reporters' records from their phone companies. Mr. Fitzgerald contends that one or more government officials alerted the reporters, Judith Miller and Philip Shenon, to an imminent search of the offices of an Islamic charity. That disclosure, he has written to lawyers for The Times, was probably criminal.

So, according to what the New York Times says Fitzgerald wrote in his letter (naturally we can't trust the Times so need to see the letter ourselves, but for the sake of discussion we'll go by their representation) that not only of interest is Shenon tipping off the "charity", but the disclosure of the imminent search by "government officials" was "probably" a crime. Sooooooo, who were the government officials in that case. Did they continue to serve as sources for these reporters as the months and years went on?

12 posted on 09/29/2004 9:17:27 AM PDT by cyncooper (Have I mentioned lately that I despise the media?)
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To: MamaLucci
BTW, just for a point of reference I'll post this New York Times profile of Plame from October 2003. Note it says she was undercover long ago but was moved out due to the Aldrich Ames business. It further notes a "new cover" with the State Department. I've often kept that in mind and wondered if she was ever sourced on background in news stories as "a State Department official" and that kind of thing:

Secrets of the Scandal

excerpt:

First, the C.I.A. suspected that Aldrich Ames had given Mrs. Wilson's name (along with those of other spies) to the Russians before his espionage arrest in 1994. So her undercover security was undermined at that time, and she was brought back to Washington for safety reasons.

Second, as Mrs. Wilson rose in the agency, she was already in transition away from undercover work to management, and to liaison roles with other intelligence agencies. So this year, even before she was outed, she was moving away from "noc" — which means non-official cover, like pretending to be a business executive. After passing as an energy analyst for Brewster-Jennings & Associates, a C.I.A. front company, she was switching to a new cover as a State Department official, affording her diplomatic protection without having "C.I.A." stamped on her forehead.

~SNIP~

But keep in mind she did indeed write an internal memo at Langley recommending her lawfully wedded spouse to be sent off to Niger, there to sip tea and do who knows what (it wasn't investigating yellowcake except in the most cursory way).

13 posted on 09/29/2004 9:26:54 AM PDT by cyncooper (Have I mentioned lately that I despise the media?)
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To: Lancey Howard

My pleasure. ;)


14 posted on 09/29/2004 10:03:03 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: cyncooper
Nice work on those posts. It sure seems plausible that Plame, her own self, was a NY Times source.
15 posted on 09/29/2004 10:05:24 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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