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To: Bella_Bru

No I am not in favor of opening our borders. I am in favor of requiring the Congress to do their constitutional duty to regulate immigration. I'm also in favor of eliminating liberal giveaway programs for illegals. But I'm NOT in favor of seizing assets or jailing employers or militarizing the border or building a wall across 1,500 miles of border or having a war against Mexico or against the Mexican people, etc.


191 posted on 09/28/2004 1:14:54 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
Thank you for your honest answer.

I don't think we should be seizing assets, but what is wrong with a punitive fine? What other way can you convince employers not to hire illegals?

having a war against Mexico or against the Mexican people, etc

I'd be happy to see a civil war in Mexico led by people who want to overthrow that damn corrupt government.

195 posted on 09/28/2004 1:18:26 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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To: Jim Robinson

As an employer who hires nothing but Americans and pay all my required state/fed'l payroll taxes it makes me furious when I see a multitude of employers in various industries openly breaking federal law by hiring illeglas and EVADING numerous taxes while aiding and abetting illegal immigration in the process. Additionally, they get to pay minimal wages to illegals knowing full well the taxpayers will get socked to supplement the employees living expenses. Having a system such as this where some employers are above the law while others have to toe the line is just another reason we're slowly becoming a banana republic instead of a constitutional republic......in other words we're committing national suicide.


208 posted on 09/28/2004 1:26:02 PM PDT by american spirit
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To: Jim Robinson

Well, I am in favor of the government restricting the flow of illegals and one way is to end the attraction of felon employers.

I believe our government should set a date for all employers to verify the status of their employees and after that date, those still intent to commit felonies should be fined to the brink of bankruptcy. After that date, the government should allow enforcement of our immigration code to the letter.

Gov't programs that pay abled bodied people to not work should cease or be phased out totally.

It should become mandatory that only a parent or legal guardian who is a citizen and has contributed to the Social Security trust fund for a minimum of twenty consecutive quarters may apply for taxpayer-funded benefits or services on behalf of minors.

I am in favor of a scannable social security card system that could reduce fraud, linking card ID's to state DMV licenses and voter registrations.

I'm also in favor of removing immunities for organizations such as LaRaza which knowingly aid and abet illegal and fraudulant activity and in favor of aggressively seeking their demise should they insist on continuing.

Lastly, I'm in favor of establishing a reimbursement system whereby monitary exchanges with countries whose illegal citizens "borrow" our taxpayer funded services are assessed and invoices levied according to the percentages of illegals apprehended.


230 posted on 09/28/2004 1:39:03 PM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Jim Robinson
"No I am not in favor of opening our borders. I am in favor of requiring the Congress to do their constitutional duty to regulate immigration. I'm also in favor of eliminating liberal giveaway programs for illegals. But I'm NOT in favor of seizing assets or jailing employers or militarizing the border or building a wall across 1,500 miles of border or having a war against Mexico or against the Mexican people, etc."

We agree then that there is a problem with the current unregulated state of immigration, and the drain on our economy through handouts. And FWIW, I'm not sure what would be the best solution to the problem, only that a serious, honest effort needs to be made to find one.

So I have 3 questions, if you or anyone else has a minute...

1. What do you think congress should do to regulate it?

2. Do you agree that employers who hire illegals are breaking the law, and in saving their own $ in taxes and payroll, create more indigence for the rest of us to support, thus shifting the burden to the rest of us?
Is that acceptable?

3. How should we deal with the massive costs of illegal immigrants' health care and education?
397 posted on 09/28/2004 3:31:23 PM PDT by Trinity_Tx (Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believin as we already do)
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