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Bush: Militarizing Border Won't Stop Illegal Deluge
Newsmax.com ^ | Monday, Sept. 27, 2004 11:07 p.m. EDT

Posted on 09/27/2004 11:40:43 PM PDT by Robert Lomax

The U.S. has no plans to deploy troops along the Mexican border to stanch the deluge of illegal aliens currently pouring into the country at the rate of 3 million per year, President Bush said in an interview broadcast on Monday.

"As the governor of Texas, I was very aware of this issue," Bush told Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly.

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"There is a long border, that makes it hard to control. We have beefed up places along the border to try to stop" the flow, he said. When told that his policy didn't seem to be working, Bush insisted, "It’s working a little better.

"They're doing a pretty good job down in Arizona, which is the main border crossing. ... I think there's a thousand more border patrol agents along the border. We’re modernizing border techniques, we’re using better surveillance methods to stop this crossing at the border."

The president contended, however, that illegal immigration was driven primarily by the economic realities of the region.

"If you can make 50 cents in the interior of Mexico and five bucks in the interior of the United States, you're coming for the five bucks," he explained.

"I happen to believe the best way to enhance the border is to have temporary-worker cards available for people," he said. "I think the long-term solution for this issue on our border is for Mexico to grow a middle class. That's why I believe in NAFTA."

When warned that "a lot of people are not going to like that answer," Bush told O'Reilly, "Well it’s a, a truthful answer."


TOPICS: Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; bush; bushamnesty; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; issues; spottheretread; terrorism
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To: tpaine

Annex? No thanks. Change our policies and launch a punitive expedition, maybe. Annex, no way.


881 posted on 09/29/2004 9:27:35 AM PDT by Bald Eagle777 (The only way to fight terrorism is to exterminate all of the terrorists..)
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To: Joe Hadenuf; hchutch; Barlowmaker; HitmanNY; Chemist_Geek
You talk like a commie.

BWAHAHA! I'm the one who wants to cut off welfare for everyone; you want to keep it going.

You haven't a clue what I've done.

Listen bozo, I helped work on CA prop 187 for two years prior to the election. Did I tell you we won our free election here in Cal? Overwhelmingly, 3 to 1.

Uh-huh. In other words, you did one thing, with a ballot initiative that had some serious legal problems (such as not having a severability clause and addressing a federally-controlled issue at the state level), and you think you've done your duty.

You haven't done jack-s**t, boy. You work on things that are easy, and you punk out when it looks hard.

Then your friends the feds came along, working in concert with the local state career politicos parasites, they burned our ballots and declared our free election illegal.

Not my friends, son. The judge was appointed by Jimmy Carter, who won California's electoral votes in 1976. I'm willing to bet (a) that you voted for him, and (b) like most Carter supporters, you're going to lie about it out of embarrassment.

In short, you've done precious little, and only when it wasn't hard.

882 posted on 09/29/2004 9:29:56 AM PDT by Poohbah (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
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To: TLI

BTTT


883 posted on 09/29/2004 9:31:19 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: Barlowmaker
Somebody is roofing in Las Vegas in July. It's integral to the economy. It ain't the students on summer break from Stanford and ASU. I embrace those guys. Honestly. They are foreign nationals, but they are better Americans than third generation big butted welfare queens

HAHA foriegn nationals? Thats a wonderful phrase that the MSM should jump on. I have news for you. Those roofers who are illegal immigrants are living with a big butted welfare queen and kids who are milking the welfare system and they are sending a portion of their paycheck back home.

They are lawbreakers and they are smart enough to take advantage of our genorous welfare, SS, and free medical. America cannot afford them. I cannot afford them. I believe we should have lots of LEGAL immigration. But it should be done in the manner it use to be. A medical checkup and some assurance that they will not be on welfare in 30 days.

884 posted on 09/29/2004 9:33:42 AM PDT by winodog (JFK is a double minded man, unstable in all his ways)
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To: Stu Cohen

We can debate a number of things.

September 11 was the breaking point with me as far as abiding selfish "Philospher Kings". You get kicked to the curb. With prejudice.


885 posted on 09/29/2004 9:34:12 AM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: Poohbah
You're a fraud.

You are the one just last week, after being told by myself that millions of people have voted for relief from this epic invasion, screamed, begged, wrote their representatives hundreds of times, protested, formed organizations, have attempted to sue the federal government, etc etc, and what was your response?

I quote, "What have you done for the GOP lately?"

I'm so sick of this arrogant, political party before country attitude.

You just keep repeating that Poobah. It's just what need to wake a few more people up.

886 posted on 09/29/2004 9:37:38 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I quote, "What have you done for the GOP lately?"

And I will tell you the answer: not a f***ing thing.

And you refuse to recognize that the GOP--or anybody, for that matter--does not give freebies.

You want the GOP to write you a blank check in return for a promise of future votes.

Hey, Joe, I promise you that I'll work to unseat Dreier, just send me a cashier's check for a couple thousand dollars first, OK?

887 posted on 09/29/2004 9:42:57 AM PDT by Poohbah (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
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To: Poohbah

"Fire Dreier"! LOL


888 posted on 09/29/2004 9:44:00 AM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: winodog
they are smart enough to take advantage of our genorous welfare, SS, and free medical

Target rich, and where do I start?

The guys I referred are not on welfare.

Congratulations on your moment of epipheny that it's welfare that's the problem. Let's address that outrage as a forum, and we'll craft a beginning to a solution.

An ugly little cadre of Freepers don't want a solution. They bathe in the problem.

889 posted on 09/29/2004 9:49:01 AM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: FITZ

You are correct about that. Go thirty miles from the border for a weekend in baja and at sometime you will be stopped by military with maching guns. You will get out of your car and step way back while they search it. Dont have a spent cartridge in the bed of your pickup because you will go to jail.

I know I have lots of posts here in a short time, but I am just reading this post and I feel directly affected by what is going on. My son and nephews will be seriously affected by our actions. I feel illegal immigration is probaly one of the greatest threats to our way of life that we have faced.


890 posted on 09/29/2004 9:57:12 AM PDT by winodog (JFK is a double minded man, unstable in all his ways)
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To: Poohbah
To: Joe Hadenuf

We have to ask them to secure our borders and sovereignty?

Yeah, you have to ask them for anything and everything that you want them to do. That is the nature of politics.

53 posted on 09/17/2004 3:52:55 PM PDT by Poohbah (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)

To: Poohbah

Assuming you succeed, when you go up and demand favors, the GOP will ask, "So what did you do for us lately?"

What arrogance!

We have to ask them to secure our borders and sovereignty? We have to tell them we are being choked off! We have to ask them for favors?? BULL S*&# !

Yeah, you have to ask them for anything and everything that you want them to do. That is the nature of politics.

We have asked! This is BS!

We've screamed, petitioned, wrote them, voted, (prop 187) our hospitals are being closed down, over crowded classroom are being jammed to the windows with illegal aliens, they've filled our jails, choked off our social services and left the landscaped filled with American victims of their crimes, not to mention the hundreds of thosands of jobs they've stolen.

NOW YOU SAY WE HAVE TO ASK THE GOP TO SAVE OUR COUNTRY, ASK THEM TO SECURE OUR BORDERS, ASK THEM TO PROTECT OUR SOVEREIGNTY?

This is beyond pathetic. Dealing with you people is like dealing with the Department of Motor vehicles. All arrogant government employees with fat salaries, and fat pensions waiting for us peons to beg them. LOL!

56 posted on 09/17/2004 4:05:43 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

You've asked...and then you asked again...and then you've asked again. One thing that you haven't done: y'all haven't actually made it worth the GOP's while to give you what you want.

You just keep repeating this Poobah.

891 posted on 09/29/2004 10:25:32 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Barlowmaker

The ugly cadre of freepers will be proven right.


892 posted on 09/29/2004 11:10:37 AM PDT by winodog (JFK is a double minded man, unstable in all his ways)
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To: Poohbah
You're right. The consequences of illegal immigration have been beautifully managed by the non-militarization of the border.
893 posted on 09/29/2004 11:21:26 AM PDT by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Have you read the 9/11 report? The estimates of AQ's resources have been drastically lowered.
894 posted on 09/29/2004 11:22:19 AM PDT by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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To: radicalamericannationalist

OK, pray tell how you would handle CNN splashing a video of an unarmed kid getting blown away across America's breakfast.


895 posted on 09/29/2004 12:01:56 PM PDT by Poohbah (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
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To: winodog

Ugly cadres always remain ugly and wrong.


896 posted on 09/29/2004 12:02:50 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: Barlowmaker; Joe Hadenuf

C'mon, Joe, it's only $2,000. As soon as I get the cashier's check in hand, I promise you I'll start working to unseat Dreier.

You game, Joe? You willing to put your money where your mouth is?


897 posted on 09/29/2004 12:03:31 PM PDT by Poohbah (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
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To: winodog

Who knows what will happen. One WMD coming over the border from Mexico and our attitude toward illegal immigration will change markedly. Most illegal aliens are Mexican. Mexico (a shithole if there ever was one) dominates our legal and illegal immigration numbers.

Why we accommodate that wretched country is beyond me. I don't like it's culture and corruption.


898 posted on 09/29/2004 12:15:48 PM PDT by dennisw (Gd is against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: Poohbah

Your baiting is as disgusting as your views on illegal immigration. It's one big joke to you. For 3 years I've seen you post inanities about illegal immigration.


So you're clever. So you're a wise guy.


899 posted on 09/29/2004 12:20:54 PM PDT by dennisw (Gd is against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: Poohbah

Dreier is one of the six or seven most powerful politicians in DC.

THESE forum goofballs are going to take him down?

The anti-Arnold/anti-Dreier people are stupidity on the hoof.


900 posted on 09/29/2004 12:22:33 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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