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Bush: Militarizing Border Won't Stop Illegal Deluge
Newsmax.com ^ | Monday, Sept. 27, 2004 11:07 p.m. EDT

Posted on 09/27/2004 11:40:43 PM PDT by Robert Lomax

The U.S. has no plans to deploy troops along the Mexican border to stanch the deluge of illegal aliens currently pouring into the country at the rate of 3 million per year, President Bush said in an interview broadcast on Monday.

"As the governor of Texas, I was very aware of this issue," Bush told Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly.

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"There is a long border, that makes it hard to control. We have beefed up places along the border to try to stop" the flow, he said. When told that his policy didn't seem to be working, Bush insisted, "It’s working a little better.

"They're doing a pretty good job down in Arizona, which is the main border crossing. ... I think there's a thousand more border patrol agents along the border. We’re modernizing border techniques, we’re using better surveillance methods to stop this crossing at the border."

The president contended, however, that illegal immigration was driven primarily by the economic realities of the region.

"If you can make 50 cents in the interior of Mexico and five bucks in the interior of the United States, you're coming for the five bucks," he explained.

"I happen to believe the best way to enhance the border is to have temporary-worker cards available for people," he said. "I think the long-term solution for this issue on our border is for Mexico to grow a middle class. That's why I believe in NAFTA."

When warned that "a lot of people are not going to like that answer," Bush told O'Reilly, "Well it’s a, a truthful answer."


TOPICS: Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; bush; bushamnesty; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; issues; spottheretread; terrorism
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To: Trinity_Tx
What I've wondered is if we couldn't place simple sensors along the border, that would alert border patrol officers in the air where a breach has occurred...

How many sensors would that take? How many officers in the air would it take?

681 posted on 09/28/2004 7:25:28 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Seadog Bytes

ok.. Add another fence to it taller than the other two (on our side of the border) that is not electrically charged (thatll keep the snakes, etc from coming into contact with either of the other two fences).

Protected habitat for people... Yours is also a good idea.


682 posted on 09/28/2004 7:30:30 PM PDT by SealSeven
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To: Joe Hadenuf
It's obviously not an invasion in the military sense of the word and a military response is not appropriate.

This invasion is a bit like the story of the Goths. First, the Romans just let them in since they figured that they were not a military threat.
Things went bad between the Romans and the Goths.
Rome was looted.

End of story.

683 posted on 09/28/2004 7:31:35 PM PDT by Missouri
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To: Jim Robinson
It's obviously not an invasion in the military sense of the word and a military response is not appropriate.

Not sure I agree. They are well armed and well organized here in LA. And they not afraid to use them.

And I think breaking a countries Federal Immigration Laws, Driving Illegally, Driving Uninsured, Working Illegally, et al ... is something that requires a fairly strong reaction.

If they don't want a military response, they don't have to come. It's 100% their decision.

I'm not talking about invading Mexico, i'm talking about protecting our national borders. "Please don't break our state and federal laws" hasn't seemed to be an overwhelming success.

684 posted on 09/28/2004 7:32:50 PM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: Stu Cohen
It's obviously not an invasion in the military sense of the word and a military response is not appropriate.

Oh, and 600 gang murders last year in the city limits of LA alone. Who knows what it is nationwide.

I'm not 100% sure on how you define "military invasion". But I would be willing to be that the yearly illegal Mexican violent crime victim totals make 9/11's numbers look underwhelming.

Not as dramatic, but no less destructive.

685 posted on 09/28/2004 7:35:27 PM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: Jim Robinson
It's obviously not an invasion in the military sense of the word and a military response is not appropriate.

Oh, and 600 gang murders last year in the city limits of LA alone. Who knows what it is nationwide.

I'm not 100% sure on how you define "military invasion". But I would be willing to be that the yearly illegal Mexican violent crime victim totals make 9/11's numbers look underwhelming.

Not as dramatic, but no less destructive.

686 posted on 09/28/2004 7:36:42 PM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: Jim Robinson
Yes, Mexicans shot for crossing over for work or handouts would be definite overkill.

But it seems to me that we are at war with those whose primary strategy and goal is to enter our homeland and attack our citizens. In that case, it is the definition of "invasion".

One could say that under those circumstances, military patrol as a constitutional imperative.

I understand that the solution isn't easy. I do not understand accepting the vulnerability. Heck, at least pull all those DEA agents off that wasted and unconstitutional effort and make them do BP instead. ; )
687 posted on 09/28/2004 7:37:32 PM PDT by Trinity_Tx (Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believin as we already do)
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To: TomasUSMC

Excellent post.


688 posted on 09/28/2004 7:40:51 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Barlowmaker; Joe Hadenuf

HAHAHA!!


689 posted on 09/28/2004 7:41:59 PM PDT by Klickitat
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To: Stu Cohen

I have two siblings who live in the Los Angeles area.

They are far more afraid of a NUTJOB like you than any Mexican scourge.


690 posted on 09/28/2004 7:43:13 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: Barlowmaker
I have two siblings who live in the Los Angeles area.

They are far more afraid of a NUTJOB like you than any Mexican scourge.

Okay, you speak for two of the 10 million people in Los Angeles county.

To say that is statistically insignificant is an understatement.

Oh, and I bet your "sibling" live as far away from Central Los Angeles as possible. "I live in the Los Angeles Area" is a euphemism for "I love illegals, I just don't want to live near those people".

Face it, your siblings are afraid of the Mexican "scourge" (note, your word, not mine .... telling).

691 posted on 09/28/2004 7:46:52 PM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: Stu Cohen

Move from your oppressive condition and STFU.


692 posted on 09/28/2004 7:48:49 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: Stu Cohen
They are far more afraid of a NUTJOB like you

Oh, and ad-homnems are usually against FR policy, but I won't tell if you don't.

693 posted on 09/28/2004 7:50:22 PM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: Barlowmaker
Move from your oppressive condition and STFU.

Request Denied.

694 posted on 09/28/2004 7:51:06 PM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: Robert Lomax

This is the one sore spot I have with GWB. Seems to me that all borders to the U.S. should have been under military protection since 9/11 and declared so to all border countries for just that reason. If Mexico can't deal with that then too bad.


695 posted on 09/28/2004 7:53:03 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit
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To: Stu Cohen

You love playing the victim.

That's DemocRAT area.


696 posted on 09/28/2004 7:55:21 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: TomasUSMC
"There is a long border, that makes it hard to control..."
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"They're doing a pretty good job down in Arizona, which is the main border crossing..."

I was never in the military, but I'd think that if an enemy were crossing the line at a given place, that's where I'd deploy forces to resist it.

I'm with you. I'm voting for W. But if he doesn't get Constitutionalist judges on the benches and seal up our borders, everything else he is doing will end in futility.
697 posted on 09/28/2004 7:56:31 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'm fresh out of tags. I'll pick some up tomorrow.)
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To: Barlowmaker
That's DemocRAT area.

Is there a cliche' or ad-hominem you haven't used yet?

698 posted on 09/28/2004 7:59:28 PM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: Stu Cohen

We'll enjoy your whining.


699 posted on 09/28/2004 8:04:48 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: Barlowmaker

700


700 posted on 09/28/2004 8:06:04 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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