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Bush: Militarizing Border Won't Stop Illegal Deluge
Newsmax.com ^ | Monday, Sept. 27, 2004 11:07 p.m. EDT

Posted on 09/27/2004 11:40:43 PM PDT by Robert Lomax

The U.S. has no plans to deploy troops along the Mexican border to stanch the deluge of illegal aliens currently pouring into the country at the rate of 3 million per year, President Bush said in an interview broadcast on Monday.

"As the governor of Texas, I was very aware of this issue," Bush told Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly.

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"There is a long border, that makes it hard to control. We have beefed up places along the border to try to stop" the flow, he said. When told that his policy didn't seem to be working, Bush insisted, "It’s working a little better.

"They're doing a pretty good job down in Arizona, which is the main border crossing. ... I think there's a thousand more border patrol agents along the border. We’re modernizing border techniques, we’re using better surveillance methods to stop this crossing at the border."

The president contended, however, that illegal immigration was driven primarily by the economic realities of the region.

"If you can make 50 cents in the interior of Mexico and five bucks in the interior of the United States, you're coming for the five bucks," he explained.

"I happen to believe the best way to enhance the border is to have temporary-worker cards available for people," he said. "I think the long-term solution for this issue on our border is for Mexico to grow a middle class. That's why I believe in NAFTA."

When warned that "a lot of people are not going to like that answer," Bush told O'Reilly, "Well it’s a, a truthful answer."


TOPICS: Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; bush; bushamnesty; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; issues; spottheretread; terrorism
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To: Klickitat
Klickitat wrote:

Well then do you have a suggestion for how to deal with our estimated 13 million illegal aliens? Should we amnesty them?

See JR's post 454:

Guess they'd better beef up the BP so they can catch the illegals in the act of crossing and or come up with some sort of economic incentive for illegals to go home.
454 JR

See my last post for a possible "economic incentive".

501 posted on 09/28/2004 5:01:10 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: SLB

Let's hope so, and a few dune buggies with swivel mounts loaded on them.


502 posted on 09/28/2004 5:04:29 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Barlowmaker
Okay, you have lost me. The "they are better than Americans" argument is a slam to all I believe in. It's not about labor. It's about preserving the future of the United States.

I am sure you have heard this before but if you haven't let me tell you. These people have no loyalty to my country. When they speak of "my country" they are talking about Guatemala, mexico or some such other third world nation. If we were invaded by China or thousands of Al Qaeda operatives and war here started would they take up arms in our defense?. I do not believe they would. And, please don't bring up the foreigners in our armed forces. They are a very small percentage and are only doing it to become citizens.

There is something treacherous about believing that illegal aliens are better than our own citizens. A persons whose first act on American soil is to daily commit a felony is not something to be lauded.

503 posted on 09/28/2004 5:04:33 PM PDT by raybbr
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To: Jim Robinson
I don't think the long term solution to a what is basically an economic problem

Illegal invasion of a country is not an "economic problem". It's an illegal invation.

And if you believe that "they come her for a better life" nonesense, drop by sometime and i'll show you the illegible spanish graffiti that I have to clean off my house every day, and the four or five guys laying in urine on my porch with beer bottles strewn around them.

I'm pretty sure they have beer in Mexico.

Either strike the immigration laws from the books, or enforce them.

504 posted on 09/28/2004 5:05:16 PM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: Barlowmaker
"Let's understand we're a nation of immigrants."

Untrue. Again, read Huntington and Unguarded Gates.

And as to why people blame Bush and Huntington, it is their job to enforce our borders.
505 posted on 09/28/2004 5:06:09 PM PDT by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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To: raybbr

You are howling at the moon.


506 posted on 09/28/2004 5:06:26 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: Stu Cohen

It's an economic problem.


507 posted on 09/28/2004 5:08:54 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: radicalamericannationalist
"Let's understand we're a nation of immigrants."

Then lets give the land back to the Indians and all go back to England, Ireland, Africa, etc.

Someone was always here before us.

Things change. Wars are fought. National boundaries are created. The 200+ coutries on this planet are all a nation of immigratns. That's fauly logic. People didn't just spring up out of the gound. I don't care who owned it before it's ours now. Stike that, it's Mexico's.

Viva El Presidente'.

508 posted on 09/28/2004 5:09:51 PM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: Stu Cohen

Where do you live?

We need to authenticate your story.


509 posted on 09/28/2004 5:10:42 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: Barlowmaker
I live in the capital of Mexico. It is sometimes referred to as "Los Angeles".

And this illegal crap is making me as pissed off as a Frenchmen in a deodorant shop.

510 posted on 09/28/2004 5:12:25 PM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: Stu Cohen

Woah. I think you misunderstood my post. I'm on your side. The above language was one of Barlowmaker's "insights."


511 posted on 09/28/2004 5:13:32 PM PDT by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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To: Stu Cohen
Illegal invasion of a country is not an "economic problem". It's an illegal invasion.


Thanks for that bit of common sense.

512 posted on 09/28/2004 5:14:34 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: gubamyster

Yes it will he just needs to do it. QUICK!


513 posted on 09/28/2004 5:14:52 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Stu Cohen; Barlowmaker
And if you believe that "they come her for a better life" nonesense, drop by sometime and i'll show you the illegible spanish graffiti that I have to clean off my house every day, and the four or five guys laying in urine on my porch with beer bottles strewn around them.

Do you place them under citizen's arrest for trespassing, or are you afraid they'll say mean things to you?

514 posted on 09/28/2004 5:15:21 PM PDT by Poohbah (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
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To: Barlowmaker
We need to authenticate your story.

Like we need to authenticate millions pouring through our open borders?

515 posted on 09/28/2004 5:16:25 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: HitmanNY
There is no public mandate now

Public mandate? There is no public mandate for the open borders nor for the amnesty that Bush is proposing --- actually Silvestre Reyes was only elected to Congress from his region because of his actions while he was head of Border Patrol --- actions which did something to control the border.

516 posted on 09/28/2004 5:16:56 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: radicalamericannationalist
Man, i'm not even just speaking in the abstract.

One extremely drunk, uninsured illegal hit me at a stoplight doing 50-60Mph based on the skidmarks. I was stopped at the red light, he obvously didn't.

He totalled my car and injured me.

They took him to the hospital, treated him, and let him go. When I asked why I didn't get a chance to resolve the matter with him, they said he was "undocumented" and they could not establish his identity, and decided to release him since he didn't have insurance anyway and it would have done me no good.

I am completely serious.

He could be behind you the next time you are at a light.

Viva el Presidente'.

517 posted on 09/28/2004 5:18:41 PM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: Stu Cohen
Stu wrote:

--- if you believe that "they come her for a better life" nonesense, drop by sometime and i'll show you the illegible spanish graffiti that I have to clean off my house every day, and the four or five guys laying in urine on my porch with beer bottles strewn around them.

Why do you rent your house to a bunch of alcoholics?

518 posted on 09/28/2004 5:19:30 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: ZULU
We have to work hard to get Bush elected President. Despite HIS rhetoric on this subject, the Democrat alternative is far worse. Once he IS relected, it will be time to turn up the political screws on this distorted perspective of his, which smacks of one worldism. And the tools for turning those political screws begin with Tancredo of Colorado and our local elected officials and federal representatives who should be forced to demand that Bush re-assess this idiotic tolerance of invaders who are altering the ethnic and cultural face of America and converting it into a third world bananna republic. I have no problem with legal, controlled immigration, and the actual numbers of new immigrants allowed in here are for those far wiser than I to determine. But I am choked with rage at the apparent blase attitude of this administration, and the Democrat and Republican representatives in Washington who seem to feel it is quite alright to GIVE AWAY MY COUNTRY without my consent to foreign invaders. Its intolerable and must be stopped.

What you said.

It's a catch 22, if you will.

If the next contender is Hillary, I will do whatever it takes to elect the Republican. But, I am getting to my breaking point. Does not anyone care about this country? I think I would probably vote third party if it gave me control of our borders.

519 posted on 09/28/2004 5:19:31 PM PDT by Do Be (The heart is smarter than the head.)
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To: Poohbah
Do you place them under citizen's arrest for trespassing, or are you afraid they'll say mean things to you?

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!

Yeah, sure. I love it when the cops laugh in my face.

520 posted on 09/28/2004 5:20:21 PM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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