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Bush: Militarizing Border Won't Stop Illegal Deluge
Newsmax.com ^ | Monday, Sept. 27, 2004 11:07 p.m. EDT

Posted on 09/27/2004 11:40:43 PM PDT by Robert Lomax

The U.S. has no plans to deploy troops along the Mexican border to stanch the deluge of illegal aliens currently pouring into the country at the rate of 3 million per year, President Bush said in an interview broadcast on Monday.

"As the governor of Texas, I was very aware of this issue," Bush told Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly.

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"There is a long border, that makes it hard to control. We have beefed up places along the border to try to stop" the flow, he said. When told that his policy didn't seem to be working, Bush insisted, "It’s working a little better.

"They're doing a pretty good job down in Arizona, which is the main border crossing. ... I think there's a thousand more border patrol agents along the border. We’re modernizing border techniques, we’re using better surveillance methods to stop this crossing at the border."

The president contended, however, that illegal immigration was driven primarily by the economic realities of the region.

"If you can make 50 cents in the interior of Mexico and five bucks in the interior of the United States, you're coming for the five bucks," he explained.

"I happen to believe the best way to enhance the border is to have temporary-worker cards available for people," he said. "I think the long-term solution for this issue on our border is for Mexico to grow a middle class. That's why I believe in NAFTA."

When warned that "a lot of people are not going to like that answer," Bush told O'Reilly, "Well it’s a, a truthful answer."


TOPICS: Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; bush; bushamnesty; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; issues; spottheretread; terrorism
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To: raybbr

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382 posted on 09/28/2004 3:22:13 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: citizen

Yes, Bush is right on with RKBA (so far), elimination of the IRS/IRC for a non-enslaving tax and his overseas prosecution of the war to push back the Muhammadan invaders...


383 posted on 09/28/2004 3:23:55 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: Lutonian

You are welcome FRiend!


385 posted on 09/28/2004 3:25:02 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: raybbr
millions of people to come here unchecked and without documentation.

I don't believe your numbers. Prove it.

Commence frenzied searching through your American Patrol e-mails.

386 posted on 09/28/2004 3:25:16 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: Robert Lomax

1. Wall
2. Devastating fines for employers who hire Illegals


387 posted on 09/28/2004 3:26:50 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: Chemist_Geek; Poohbah

Switzerland is unique among nations. Small, defensible, neutral in world wars, a collector of dictators' gold. So let's name some nations that aren't tiny gold-swollen neutral tax havens, which are successful long-term bilingual bicultural nations. It should be easy.


388 posted on 09/28/2004 3:26:55 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Lutonian

Very depressing. We're going to get our "one-world utopia" shoved down our throats, like it or not.


389 posted on 09/28/2004 3:27:42 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Barlowmaker
That is a separate issue. You stated that we have full sovereignty. If our borders are so porous that half a million people cross them illegally, then you are wrong.

As to your "change the issue" question, no I would not as that would depress wages for U.S. workers.
391 posted on 09/28/2004 3:28:39 PM PDT by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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To: truthkeeper

Some Freepers, while sincere, either don't think issues like this through, or are just too extreme to be effective or desirable as any kind of policy makers.

"Put the military on the border" satisfies an authoritarian instinct, and speaks to a legit issue: the border, as it stands now, is a mess. Clearly we need to change things.

But the military on the border types are whacked out, plain and simple. They haven't thought it through, and appear unwilling to think it through.

I for one am glad that they are in a hopeless minority in our movement, and that they tend to marginalize themselves. I always wonder about weak, ineffective types who want other men to go out with guns blazing - there must be some odd pshyco-sexual thing going on.

In any case, anyone who thinks we should gun down smiling folks making a break to the USA for a better life, and maybe snipe their cute little family, has no place in conservative or Republican ranks.

They should just play wargames on their PCs to satisfy their immature instincts, or maybe go play paintball wargames some weekends.


392 posted on 09/28/2004 3:28:52 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: Petronski

Oh, BELGIUM. Great! America will be the great success that BELGIUM is, a haven for pedophiles in government, where they smash trains into one another because they can't understand each other from one end of that tiny duchy to the other!


393 posted on 09/28/2004 3:29:11 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee

Any country that can produce the FN FAL or FN P90 can't be ALL bad (c8


394 posted on 09/28/2004 3:29:55 PM PDT by Poohbah (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
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To: Jim Robinson

rofl, don't be too sure, they don't practice birth control.


395 posted on 09/28/2004 3:30:11 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Travis McGee

You asked for a country that fit your criteria. It does not follow that we would become like them in all other respects, though building strawmen was the point of this exercise, wasn't it?


396 posted on 09/28/2004 3:30:48 PM PDT by Petronski (What did Terri McAuliffe know and when did she know it?)
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To: Jim Robinson
"No I am not in favor of opening our borders. I am in favor of requiring the Congress to do their constitutional duty to regulate immigration. I'm also in favor of eliminating liberal giveaway programs for illegals. But I'm NOT in favor of seizing assets or jailing employers or militarizing the border or building a wall across 1,500 miles of border or having a war against Mexico or against the Mexican people, etc."

We agree then that there is a problem with the current unregulated state of immigration, and the drain on our economy through handouts. And FWIW, I'm not sure what would be the best solution to the problem, only that a serious, honest effort needs to be made to find one.

So I have 3 questions, if you or anyone else has a minute...

1. What do you think congress should do to regulate it?

2. Do you agree that employers who hire illegals are breaking the law, and in saving their own $ in taxes and payroll, create more indigence for the rest of us to support, thus shifting the burden to the rest of us?
Is that acceptable?

3. How should we deal with the massive costs of illegal immigrants' health care and education?
397 posted on 09/28/2004 3:31:23 PM PDT by Trinity_Tx (Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believin as we already do)
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To: Jim Robinson

And Albania is going to be Serbia's neighbor for a long time.

Look at what open borders for cheap wage costs got them in the formerly Serbian province of Kosovo.


398 posted on 09/28/2004 3:31:42 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Lutonian
True, but using Belgium as an example is like using Hitler as an example of how to make trains run on time.

True enough, though I must point out that the 'trains run on time' thing was Mussolini. German trains ALWAYS ran on time.

399 posted on 09/28/2004 3:31:48 PM PDT by Petronski (What did Terri McAuliffe know and when did she know it?)
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To: Lutonian

Depends on the definition of "culture".

The unique wonder of America is our cultural understanding of our God-given inalienable rights. It goes from God to we individuals to government.

That's our "culture". We've built and been blessed by empowering institutions that are unique in human history.

Our culture is pervasive. World wide. It's the culture of individualism and freedom. That's why we're hated by the elites.

The guy coming across the border (unless he's a jihadi) wants a piece of our dream.


400 posted on 09/28/2004 3:31:52 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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