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Bush: Militarizing Border Won't Stop Illegal Deluge
Newsmax.com ^ | Monday, Sept. 27, 2004 11:07 p.m. EDT

Posted on 09/27/2004 11:40:43 PM PDT by Robert Lomax

The U.S. has no plans to deploy troops along the Mexican border to stanch the deluge of illegal aliens currently pouring into the country at the rate of 3 million per year, President Bush said in an interview broadcast on Monday.

"As the governor of Texas, I was very aware of this issue," Bush told Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly.

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"There is a long border, that makes it hard to control. We have beefed up places along the border to try to stop" the flow, he said. When told that his policy didn't seem to be working, Bush insisted, "It’s working a little better.

"They're doing a pretty good job down in Arizona, which is the main border crossing. ... I think there's a thousand more border patrol agents along the border. We’re modernizing border techniques, we’re using better surveillance methods to stop this crossing at the border."

The president contended, however, that illegal immigration was driven primarily by the economic realities of the region.

"If you can make 50 cents in the interior of Mexico and five bucks in the interior of the United States, you're coming for the five bucks," he explained.

"I happen to believe the best way to enhance the border is to have temporary-worker cards available for people," he said. "I think the long-term solution for this issue on our border is for Mexico to grow a middle class. That's why I believe in NAFTA."

When warned that "a lot of people are not going to like that answer," Bush told O'Reilly, "Well it’s a, a truthful answer."


TOPICS: Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; bush; bushamnesty; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; issues; spottheretread; terrorism
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To: Chemist_Geek

I agree, but I do think that 'the military on the border' types have a poor grasp of what that entails and means, that's all.


361 posted on 09/28/2004 3:10:47 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: Lutonian

Not just sad, but disgusting and dangerous BTTT


362 posted on 09/28/2004 3:11:00 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: raybbr

Our soverignity is fully intact.


363 posted on 09/28/2004 3:11:08 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: ApesForEvolution

I have to stop reading this, it's making me ill. Mr. President had a great interview with BOR, but this subject is a loser for him. For both sKerry and Bush...but this one could really get a lot of us dead and bleeding, literally...do they want that? I have to assume yes unless security really is the priority, not a wing and a prayer...



125 posted on 09/28/2004 11:31:38 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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I promise you this. If an attack happens on the US Mainland and it comes from a Border jumping Illegal, Bush is history. The Republican Party is history.

History will be written that it was the REPUBLICAN Party that openly sneered at the American Citizens for votes and cheap labor. That they Refused to do their job of Protecting and defending us.

There will not be another Republican in the white house for 20-30 years. I for one would never forgive them.
GW Bush has me seeing red over this now that he isn't going to do his job he swore on a bible to do.

It isn't like others haven't tried to show them. Asa Hutchinson has had his nose rubbed in it. Dead Americans on American soil is a image that Americans will never forget or forgive.


364 posted on 09/28/2004 3:11:08 PM PDT by Area51 (Diapers and Politicians need to be changed-For the same reason)
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To: raybbr

Hey, I'm all for sovereignty. National, state and personal.


365 posted on 09/28/2004 3:11:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Publius6961

You are wrong. There is no evidence that Americans, as it stands now, would follow your lead.

Work on developing some clarity of mind.


366 posted on 09/28/2004 3:12:01 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: Poohbah
1. The post in which you replied to asked for the identity of a multilingual, multicultural nation. That America was multicultural at that point, which you seem to admit, negates your attempt to use America as an effective example.

2. The language differences were quite important as they tied into the cultural difference. The urban areas more likely to have non-English speakers were in industrialized regions in the North that had different cultural and economic interests than the agrarian South.

3. Again, this argument assumes you are correct that there were indeed "very large tracts of this country that didn't speak English until the advent of compulsory public education." What were these "vast areas" and what were their percentage of the population?
367 posted on 09/28/2004 3:13:33 PM PDT by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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To: papasmurf
Point 1 - Yes, overhaul & secure the various welfare & related programs.

2. ...Americans will not be in favor of living in a walled in country...President Chirac: "Mr. President, TEAR DOWN THAT WALL!"

I, nor anyone AFAIK, is proposing America: The Prison. I favor walls where necessary with gates or checkpoints where all of legal status, permanent or temporary, enter and exit as they please. Our southern border warants increased security. Would the wall need to be continuous from the Gulf to the Pacific? Probably not. Israel's wall is not yet complete and is bearing positive results.

3. I'll respect the Lations when they respect our laws, not just laws of entry but all manner of other laws and safety and other regulations. --- China - yes, an economic competitor. The EU? Not hardly, they may get their collective acts together some day but it won't be soon. --- We need to give the Mexicans a big hug, metaphorically speaking, but under our terms. :) Huh? What terms? We already have "our terms" (legal immigration) & Mexico could care less.

4. Capitulation, pure & simple.

5. The 'solution' you describe is almost exactly the current system we have now for legal enrty and assimilation.

I simply don't think the American public is as uncaring or even as unaware as you seem to think on these issues. Nor do I think what would in reality be a total surrender will be the choice picked by an honorable American public.

369 posted on 09/28/2004 3:14:40 PM PDT by citizen (Write-in Tom Tancredo for President/Jeff Flake VP 2004!)
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To: Area51

At least someone gets it...Thanks.


370 posted on 09/28/2004 3:15:21 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: Lutonian

BTTT


372 posted on 09/28/2004 3:16:10 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: Lutonian

Okay. I hate the current Chinese ruling despots (although they are a step up from the Maoists). But the Chinese people have been part of China for dozens of milleniums.

That's success.


373 posted on 09/28/2004 3:16:21 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: Robert Lomax

Stopping these illegal goons at the border is what must happen.


374 posted on 09/28/2004 3:16:59 PM PDT by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: Barlowmaker
If you think half a million illegals slipping over the border in the year is sovereignty, the word has no meaning.
375 posted on 09/28/2004 3:17:27 PM PDT by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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To: Lutonian

Bump To The Top

Good onya...


376 posted on 09/28/2004 3:18:41 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: HitmanNY
The public face of conservatism shouldn't be left to those who would slay nice smiling folks trying to find a better life

Some things just leave me speechless.

377 posted on 09/28/2004 3:18:49 PM PDT by truthkeeper (Yeah, I have a 1998 signup date. So?)
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To: Barlowmaker; Jim Robinson
Our soverignity is fully intact.

Huh? With the tacit acceptance of millions of illegals?? How can you possibly claim that? Sovereignty means having a say in who comes into our country and how they will conduct themselves. It means not allowing millions of people to come here unchecked and without documentation. How can you possibly claim it is intact when our own president invites them in? Clearly Bush has open borders in mind for the future of the Unites States. How does that maintain sovereignty?

378 posted on 09/28/2004 3:20:33 PM PDT by raybbr
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To: DoughtyOne
They tap our paychecks every two weeks, and that's all they need to know about us.

So true. I've been reading about the growing sentiment for the fair tax proposals.

I'll believe it when I se it, but in this case, the President in on the right track.

379 posted on 09/28/2004 3:20:49 PM PDT by citizen (Write-in Tom Tancredo for President/Jeff Flake VP 2004!)
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To: radicalamericannationalist
If you think half a million illegals slipping over the border in the year is sovereignty, the word has no meaning.

If those 500,000 came here legally on work visas, would you be satisfied?

380 posted on 09/28/2004 3:21:26 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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