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To: Havoc
No, you are perfectly wrong in your words.

I want what is best for all involved. I just don't have the gall to force others to pay me more for less through imposing laws.

I would rather that people continue to learn and grow so that their talents and abilities can shift to a more demanded trade when necessary.

I suppose you continue to lament the loss of the buggy-whip industry--am I not right? Don't forget to cry over the lack of a viable outhouse industry while you are at it.

And you call yourself a conservative?
37 posted on 09/27/2004 8:24:42 PM PDT by ScottM1968
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To: ScottM1968
The oft-cited buggy whip example is foolish. Buggy whip jobs were not lost because they were shipped overseas. Rather, they were lost because of new technology. The ex-whip makers went to work building cars for the likes of Ford, an industrialist who understood that he could be more successful by paying decent wages to enable his employees to buy his product.
39 posted on 09/27/2004 8:28:25 PM PDT by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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To: ScottM1968
And you call yourself a conservative?

Don't make my friend cry. He'll tell the admins on you.

He's very sensitive. A regular John F'in Kerry he is.

50 posted on 09/27/2004 8:43:34 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Hey, look at me, I'm a math major.)
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To: ScottM1968
I want what is best for all involved. I just don't have the gall to force others to pay me more for less through imposing laws.

No, you just have the gall to force everyone to pay less through imposing policy - ie Nafta which did away with anti dumping, WTO which did away with everything else. But oh you love the rhetoric of trying to put it off on others - being interventionist.

I would rather that people continue to learn and grow so that their talents and abilities can shift to a more demanded trade when necessary.

You mean you'd rather people spent all their money in corporate learning institutions to stay trained for the next wave of jobs taken away from Americans to be handed to third world countries because slave labor is cheaper. That way instead of spending their money on things only you should have, these people will be kept busy worrying about whether they will have a job tomorrow and instead of raising faimilies, they'll always be raising next semester's tuition to keep schools in money. You don't want people to grow their talents, I grew mine without schooling. You want people to pay for a piece of paper that is going to be evermore worthless under growing pressures from the treason crowd.

I suppose you continue to lament the loss of the buggy-whip industry

If you're talking about buggy whips, no, buggy whips are all but outmoded and useless in modern society. Computer programming jobs are not. Computer/it support jobs are not. Systems administration jobs are not, Automakers are not, TANK and Aircraft makers are not, Farm machinery makers are not, etc, etc, etc. These are not jobs that went the way of the buggy whip. They are still very much needed. But you have to talk decietfully about it in order to confuse the issue to make it sound good. These jobs didn't go obsolete. They were taken away and handed to slaves for 50 cents an hour so that corporations could profit from putting americans out of work in wartime. Osama acted from hatred of this company in trying to destroy our economy by attacking it's economic base. You guys are subverting it from greed. Which is the bad guy?

And you call yourself a conservative?

Good for McKinley. Good for me. what's your excuse?

52 posted on 09/27/2004 8:47:38 PM PDT by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade.)
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