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To: ScottM1968
I want what is best for all involved. I just don't have the gall to force others to pay me more for less through imposing laws.

No, you just have the gall to force everyone to pay less through imposing policy - ie Nafta which did away with anti dumping, WTO which did away with everything else. But oh you love the rhetoric of trying to put it off on others - being interventionist.

I would rather that people continue to learn and grow so that their talents and abilities can shift to a more demanded trade when necessary.

You mean you'd rather people spent all their money in corporate learning institutions to stay trained for the next wave of jobs taken away from Americans to be handed to third world countries because slave labor is cheaper. That way instead of spending their money on things only you should have, these people will be kept busy worrying about whether they will have a job tomorrow and instead of raising faimilies, they'll always be raising next semester's tuition to keep schools in money. You don't want people to grow their talents, I grew mine without schooling. You want people to pay for a piece of paper that is going to be evermore worthless under growing pressures from the treason crowd.

I suppose you continue to lament the loss of the buggy-whip industry

If you're talking about buggy whips, no, buggy whips are all but outmoded and useless in modern society. Computer programming jobs are not. Computer/it support jobs are not. Systems administration jobs are not, Automakers are not, TANK and Aircraft makers are not, Farm machinery makers are not, etc, etc, etc. These are not jobs that went the way of the buggy whip. They are still very much needed. But you have to talk decietfully about it in order to confuse the issue to make it sound good. These jobs didn't go obsolete. They were taken away and handed to slaves for 50 cents an hour so that corporations could profit from putting americans out of work in wartime. Osama acted from hatred of this company in trying to destroy our economy by attacking it's economic base. You guys are subverting it from greed. Which is the bad guy?

And you call yourself a conservative?

Good for McKinley. Good for me. what's your excuse?

52 posted on 09/27/2004 8:47:38 PM PDT by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade.)
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To: Havoc
Then by all means lets do away with all these community colleges and universities so that the education rate among Americans doesn't cause "intellectual inflation" and keep those who want to drink their six-packs from always having a guaranteed job.

I am not talking deceitfully when I speak of buggy-whip manufacturing employees. I take umbrage to such words! :-)

The growth rate of the US is decreasing along with that of most of the top economic powers in the world. If anything, we will need more people than we have to fill jobs as time goes on.

I don't understand why it is so hard for people to realize that finding other opportunities more locally useful is a simple saving grace to it all. A ship can't bring its supplies to a country without weeks or months of travel. Localized specialization will continue to grow and counter many of your employment concerns.

Who's greedy when you want to make others pay the rate you demand is "high enough" for you?? I'd say that I just want to be able to make a choice that works best for me and for those whom I care. As we are all Americans, it helps to make this country stronger. Now, do the same for you and encourage better as well with those you know.

We are the ones who make the difference when allowed to choose wisely for ourselves.
56 posted on 09/27/2004 8:58:58 PM PDT by ScottM1968
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To: Havoc
Havoc, I have a question for you. You are apparently against "dumping". I'd like to ask you what you would do on behalf of your country if Germany did the following:

BMW and Mercedes-Benz offer to give every US citizen, totally free of charge, their top-of-the-line automobiles next year (never mind how they do it, but all cars will have their normal high quality and finish). They claim they are doing it to repay their war debts to us (this is the only way they will do so).

Do you refuse their offer? It would very greatly affect the US auto market for the next several years but would provide absolutely everyone with transportation.

Simply put, I would not stop it from happening and would formally thank them for their gracious gesture.

What do you do?
62 posted on 09/27/2004 9:29:47 PM PDT by ScottM1968
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