Posted on 09/27/2004 4:16:06 PM PDT by Destro
I was chuckling about it earlier. I couldn't bring myself to ping anyone to this thread. I felt it would be "piling-on."
The nuts that spout the free trade line support profit with no ethics. They aren't much different from gangsters with the exception that Gangsters at least have a code of ethics. They only follow them so long as the next guy isn't a threat.. then again...
I've run into One free trader here that believes business and ethics should have anything to do one with the other. One. And I bout had a heart-attack. These people would have had their clocks cleaned by our grandparents who saw this country through WWII. The offshoring happening today during WARTIME putting workers out on the streets in favor of foreign labor because they don't want to work within this market which made them what they are..
Personally, I'm glad My grandparents didn't live to see this. They'd have been disgusted. One of my friend's Dad was a rear gunner on B-25s in the 8th airforce during WWII and is sickened by what's happening today. I can't repeat what he says. But if he had his ruthers, these guys would be lined up and shot. You don't screw your people for profit - let alone in wartime. That people don't get that today is a sad commentary on what this nation has allowed itself to become. The liberals have so screwed up this country that treason has become a way of life such that nobody dares call it what it is. It's sick.
No, you're right. I'm sure he wanted people with absolutely no experience in factories on his assembly lines.
Well, I've been rather involved in debating the incredibly simple logical fallacies people have been posting so far.
I fear direct debunking will take some more time, "radical".
How about I put up a load of poop such as "The Protocols of Zion" and let you waste your time debunking it?
LaRouche is the only qualified candidate for U.S. President with a political movement
representing what Franklin D. Roosevelt referred to as the "forgotten man," who is now
facing ruin in the ongoing Global Depression and the Neo-con drive for perpetual war.
Don't make my friend cry. He'll tell the admins on you.
He's very sensitive. A regular John F'in Kerry he is.
It doesn't take all that much effort to debate caricatures of your opponents' views.
I compliment you on your highly efficient (though somewhat dubious) approach!
No, you just have the gall to force everyone to pay less through imposing policy - ie Nafta which did away with anti dumping, WTO which did away with everything else. But oh you love the rhetoric of trying to put it off on others - being interventionist.
I would rather that people continue to learn and grow so that their talents and abilities can shift to a more demanded trade when necessary.
You mean you'd rather people spent all their money in corporate learning institutions to stay trained for the next wave of jobs taken away from Americans to be handed to third world countries because slave labor is cheaper. That way instead of spending their money on things only you should have, these people will be kept busy worrying about whether they will have a job tomorrow and instead of raising faimilies, they'll always be raising next semester's tuition to keep schools in money. You don't want people to grow their talents, I grew mine without schooling. You want people to pay for a piece of paper that is going to be evermore worthless under growing pressures from the treason crowd.
I suppose you continue to lament the loss of the buggy-whip industry
If you're talking about buggy whips, no, buggy whips are all but outmoded and useless in modern society. Computer programming jobs are not. Computer/it support jobs are not. Systems administration jobs are not, Automakers are not, TANK and Aircraft makers are not, Farm machinery makers are not, etc, etc, etc. These are not jobs that went the way of the buggy whip. They are still very much needed. But you have to talk decietfully about it in order to confuse the issue to make it sound good. These jobs didn't go obsolete. They were taken away and handed to slaves for 50 cents an hour so that corporations could profit from putting americans out of work in wartime. Osama acted from hatred of this company in trying to destroy our economy by attacking it's economic base. You guys are subverting it from greed. Which is the bad guy?
And you call yourself a conservative?
Good for McKinley. Good for me. what's your excuse?
Amen, brother.
Right. Once you've been defanged, the toothless bumble is defenseless and then wants to make a whole new set of garbage arguments. Evidently your original positions were such a hollow smoke screen that even you see they aren't worth the effort you put into stating them. You aren't defending a position. You're just mouthing talking points to bs people with a smokescreen you hope will cover your hide. If it can be blown away this fast by someone like me, how long do you think this crap would last in a televised debate sparky. I'm sure the corporations backing this years' "debates" will see to it that it doesnt' come to the table in the interests of the American people - right. Is that how we deal with it. BS and bamboozle..
It's called supply and demand in a capitalist market, sparky. I know you guys don't like that and that's why you want to go to another market to get labor so you can make a killing on profits by exploiting workers in other countries. You guys break from supply and demand within the local market, back policy to change all the trade and tariff laws, then you accuse us of being interventionist and anti-capitalist. You're lying frauds by your own rhetoric hoping nobody notices the truth. That's why your argument collapsed so easily.
We are the ones who make the difference when allowed to choose wisely for ourselves.
Ah, yes, the warm fuzzies of a pat on the back after being handed a plate of sludge. Where did you learn your psychobable people skills? And when are you erecting your shrine to the father of free trade - Bill Clinton.
Buggywhips are obsolete or darn close to it. I listed off the jobs you want to say are obsolete as an escuse for what you're saying and practicing. And you don't see that as problematic - of course nobody can counter your arguments. In your world words don't mean anything. They're just a means to an end. No wonder you guys are so rabid and nasty in many cases. You don't have a foot to stand on much less anything other than pretense.
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