Posted on 09/27/2004 8:27:48 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle
Did the President Lie About Iraq?
In every political campaign, there is an issue which rises to the surface and dominates the debate...
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ADMIN MOD: Thanks for letting this thread run. It providing some good lessons for us all.
PISANO: The article uses quotes from the 42nd president.
Hello. Wake up. Don't you think others here can read also? Some of us do you know. If we make a comment not exactly directed to YOUR point, does not mean that we cannot read or did not read what you are so determined to ORDER us to read!
Hey, thanks! I actually (try to) get paid to be clever for a living.
I understand this article is a re-post, but maybe looking at it in a different context is beneficial. The Dems have benefited from mis-information for years.
The enemy's working overtime to sow dissent, divide and conquer - folks are on edge, and need to straighten up, maybe think of our troops facing jihadist nutcases, not let the opposition provoke us.
Probably best to post the entire article, use quotes, instead of personal opinion - makes it less personal.
Welcome to FR, where freedom's messy, but energizing - and when things get tough, you really can count on allies here.
"Did the President Lie About Iraq?" is bound to rile allies, GOP leaders must realize this. I assume the title was 'bait' for our opponents / undecided voters.
The thing is, you didn't re-post it.
You posted a sentence from an article that didn't need to be excerpted in an obvious attempt to make others look less than intelligent.
Why didn't you just post the entire article?
Didn't you say you read it yesterday and there's already a thread on it?
I posted it this way because that is the point of the article. I'm not trying to make anyone look less than intelligent...I give any conservative the benefit of the doubt in the brains department.
I'm in advertising, okay? My point was to show how the everyday person is affected by the headlines they scan in their local paper and by the snippets they see in the MSM. IMO, this is the frontline of our battle as conservatives.
Thanks for posting to me. I appreciate it.
9/26/04 CENTCOM Leader : War in Iraq Moving in the Right Direction,
http://www.dod.mil/news/Sep2004/n09262004_2004092602.html
American Forces Press Service
WASHINGTON, Sept. 26, 2004 – As January elections loom in Iraq, Army Gen. John Abizaid, head of U.S. Central Command, said today the country is headed in the right direction.
"We are in fact moving in the direction that will allow Iraq to emerge as a democratic and representational state. I think that our military activities there have moved it ahead in a positive manner," Abizaid told host Tim Russert on "Meet the Press." "It's a tough fight, it's a hard fight. But we shouldn't lose heart because there are difficult times. We know that there will be fighting through the elections."
Insurgent resistance continues to plague coalition and Iraqi troops, Abizaid said. He was asked about a Turkish journalist's report that all Iraqis near Mosul, including the children, are involved in or supporting the resistance. Abizaid responded that if that was true, Iraqi forces would not number 100,000, nor would that number be climbing.
"If everybody in Iraq was in the resistance, Prime Minister Allawi would not be trying to lead his nation forward to a better future. If everybody in Iraq happened to be part of the resistance, they wouldn't be volunteering for the armed forces," Abizaid aid. "There's more people that are coming forward to fight for the future of Iraq than are fighting against it."
While the resistance continues, Abizaid said he thinks there are fewer than 1,000 foreign fighters in Iraq, adding that the primary problem in Iraq is former regime elements fighting against the government. He said those elements are trying everything in their power to upend the election process.
"Yes, there is a resistance. Yes, it is hard," the general noted. "But the truth of the matter is that Iraqis and Americans and other members of the coalition will face that resistance together (and) will, through a series of political, economic and military means, figure out a way to defeat it and will move on to allow the elections to take place and a constitutional government to emerge."
Abizaid said that regardless of the insurgency situation, he and his commanders feel sure they can provide stability for the January elections. "Commanders in the field are confident about the military mission, they're confident about our ability to have an election period that is fair and relatively stable," he said.
Abizaid also commented on statements that it's possible only a portion of Iraq, maybe three-fourths of the country, would be stable enough to hold elections. He replied that no election is perfect and that to have most of the country to vote was the goal.
"That the election will be able to be held in the vast majority of the country under good circumstances is our goal. But right now, considering that 25,000 more Iraqi forces will join the effort, between now and the late-January elections, that election will be able to be held," Abizaid said. "We'll have to fight our way through the elections with a lot of violence between now and then."
He noted that Iraqi forces will most likely take the lead on securing elections in the stable areas, while U.S. troops would probably handle the hotspots.
The CENTCOM commander said Americans need to brace themselves for a long war in the Middle East and Central Asia, though not necessarily one that requires huge numbers of American troops. But the war will be long because the battle being waged is between extremists and moderates.
"It'll be a long process. It'll be a difficult process. But it'll be one that can be successfully fought not only at home, but in the international community and with the peoples of the region to set the standards for good government and the standards for a moderate lifestyle," he said.
No problem. See ya around. :-)
That's good stuff. I watched the interview on Russert yesterday.
Nearly 25% 0f Troops in Iraq are Non US Troops - Kerry wrong again!
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/iraq/foreigntroops.html
In addition to the United States, which has more than 130,000 troops in Iraq, many other countries have sent military personnel. The number of non-American coalition troops is more than 40,000, though numbers fluctuate.
United Kingdom: 9,000 soldiers
Italy: 3,000 soldiers, some serving as police and engineers
Poland: 2,400 soldiers
Ukraine: 1,600 soldiers
Netherlands: 1,100 soldiers plus a logistics team, a field hospital, military police and 200 engineers
Japan: 1,100 soldiers assigned to reconstruction
Australia: 800 soldiers
Romania: 700 soldiers plus 149 de-mining specialists, military police and "special intelligence" members
South Korea: 600 military engineers and medics
Bulgaria: 480 soldiers plus chemical warfare experts
Thailand: 440 soldiers assigned to humanitarian missions
Denmark: 420 soldiers including medics and military police
El Salvador: 360 soldiers
Hungary: 300 soldiers
Norway: 179 soldiers, mostly engineers and mine clearers
Mongolia: 160 soldiers involved in peacekeeping
Azerbaijan: 150 soldiers taking part in law enforcement and protection of historic monuments
Portugal: 125 soldiers functioning as police officers
Latvia: 120 soldiers
Lithuania: 115 soldiers
Slovakia: 102 soldiers
Czech Republic: 80 soldiers, serving as police
Philippines: 80 soldiers plus police and medics
Albania: 70 non-combat troops
Georgia: 70 soldiers
New Zealand: 60 army engineers assigned to reconstruction (expected to leave in Sept. 2004)
Moldova: 50 soldiers including de-mining specialists and medics
Macedonia: 35 soldiers
Estonia: 30 soldiers
Kazakhstan: 30 soldiers (expected to leave end of May 2004)
Spain withdrew its troops from Iraq following the election of Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero on March 14. Honduras and the Dominican Republic quickly followed suit. The three countries combined had nearly 2,000 troops in Iraq. Nicaragua withdrew its 115 troops at the end of March 2004 for economic reasons.
Countries that provide non-military support include: Kuwait and Qatar, which have hosted the U.S. Central Command and the invasion force; Ethiopia and Eritrea, which have given use of bases or ports; and Turkey, which has given permission for airspace use. Others countries have opted to give political support: Angola, Costa Rica, Colombia, Iceland, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Mongolia, Palau, Panama, Rwanda, Singapore, Solomon Islands, Uganda and Uzbekistan.
In early April 2004, the Bush administration indicated it was negotiating with another 50 countries that had expressed interest in providing peacekeeping troops.
FOREIGN WORKERS
The exact number of foreign workers in Iraq is hard to gauge, but it's at least 30,000. Many work for companies that have contracts with the American military to provide support or to rebuild the country. Others work for aid agencies.
Companies with U.S. Department of Defence contracts:
Kellogg, Brown and Root
Washington Group International
Fluor Intercontinental
Perini Corporation
Vinnell Corporation
CSC DynCorp International
Companies with U.S. Agency for International Development contracts:
International Resources Group
Air Force Augmentation Program
Stevedoring Services of America
Creative Associates International
Research Triangle Institute
Abt Associates
Skylink Air and Logistics Support
Bearing Point Inc.
Bechtel (including subcontractors from the UK, Saudi Arabia, Cyprus, Kuwait, Switzerland)
Non-governmental organizations with USAID grants:
United Nation's Children's Fund (UNICEF)
World Health Organization (WHO)
Mercy Corps
International Relief and Development Incorporated
Agriculture Co-operative Development International
Volunteers in Overseas Co-operative Assistance
Co-operative Housing Foundation
Save the Children Federation
Iraqi Nursing Association
US Govt : Saddam links to Bin Laden since 1998 - Kerry wrong again!
http://www.archive-news.net/Articles/SH040923.html
Summary AND Links
to US Govt and Media files
linking Osama bin Laden
and Iraq and Saddam Hussein
Since 1998
We have tried to provide a representation of the documentation
available on the Internet
that shows a link between Osama bin Laden and Iraq and Saddam
Hussein.
This is by no means an exhaustive list.
We have made an attempt to provide live links.
If you find dead links or would like more information, or to submit
comments, contact:
JHSmith@archive-news.net
E-mail the media this url
http://www.archive-news.net/Articles/SH040923.html
Locate media in all 50 states here
http://congress.org/congressorg/dbq/media/
This is one funny thread (gag). I've bookmarked it, just to bump it at a later date. I wonder how much fun I can have at others expense?
bump
Read it good article.
I'll link this list to the John F. Kerry Timeline. Kerry does nothing but insult our friends and suck up to our enemies.
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Someone should post this again, just to see what kind of reactions it gets later.
I think I'll get in trouble with the mods if I do it again.
Great article! I'm shocked to see some of the horrible responses you got from people. Very important to read and understand before you comment! I missed the other posting of it so I'm glad you posted it today. Those that complain so much about double posts should realize that not everyone catches it the first time around. Thanks for taking so much grief so the rest of us could benefit! I thinks it's been a great lesson!! :-)
BTT!!!!!!!
bump!!
Thank you!
I feel the same way...I'm at work and check the site during the little free time I have, so I miss a lot of good stuff.
I appreciate the mods letting this one run. It's like a focus group!
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