Posted on 09/26/2004 5:35:54 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
But think about --- we're paying often over $1 for one flimsy head of lettuce --- that's not at all cheap. How many heads of lettuce could be picked in one minute? If you're slow I would think one a second --- but say 20 heads in one minute --- and 50 minutes per hour -- giving a 10 minute break or idle time per hour --- that's 1000 an hour --- even if it would take a half minute to pick one head of lettuce -- a super super slow picker --- that would be 100 heads per hour with the 10 minute break. You should be able to pay legal wages with that kind of money coming in per hour.
Thanks for the movie tip! I haven't seen it but I will.
I think that picture is just to show how hard it would be for most people to distinguish a terrorist from the Middle East from other typical southern border crossers --- I actually got all the right answers though --- but it would be pretty easy for most Al Queda types to pose as harmless farmworkers just to get over.
President Bush is right when he said recently that Mexico needs to grow a middle class.
And stories like the DUI check in Oakland, snaring lots of illegals; gets NO response from the California legislature. Democrats. When Prop 187 was run over by Democrats, when vote fraud was railroaded by Democrats, I knew CA was quagmired on the issue of being able to address Illegal Immigrants. It was also CA Democrats who passed "dual citizenship" (voting) rights for legals and illegals in CA.
I've seen entire neighborhoods in CA overrun by illegals. If those "elected" to positions of infrastructure in CA (for example) won't do squat; anything President Bush would do would render squat TOO! IMHO, the Dems would just confiscate and re-direct the funds to deal with Illegal Immigrants to their own pet causes, laundering the monies through lots of "bureacratic-sounding" name committees. THIS has happened time and time again, in CA.
You and I are in perfect accord in our passion regarding the halting of illegal immigrancy.
But I'll be damned if I see a whole billion more taxpayer dollars go to funding more Democratic ruses and pretenses to dealing with this issue -- THEY AREN'T. THEY DON'T. And all it does is fund the enemies of America.
Yes, I get peevish on this issue. I've read countless articles positing that would President Bush just simply "order" it done; somehow, it would be. IT WOULDN'T BE.
And no matter what edict President Bush might make upon stopping the illegal immigrant issue -- IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN until Americans wake up to see what they are voting for -- most often voting in Dems who are helping illegals gain access to the American system. The infrastracture in each state to deal with illegal immigrancy has been corrupted and eroded to a hard point.
What have Dems wished for the past 15 years? NATIONAL IDENTITY CARDS. Do I want a National Identity Card? NO. But this is exactly what Dems are hoping to bring about the very minute President Bush swipes effectively at halting the illegal immigrant problem, IMHO and IME.
Nonetheless, I perceive in President Bush's next 4 years -- this problem is going to be properly addressed, and rather effectively.
The first step in dealing with this issue has come under "Homeland Security" guidelines; thus far, it is working.. okay. Officials are identifying potential "immigrant" threats to America. It's a start.
What's that old canard about what to do when the worms begin spilling over and out of the overfilled can? You get a bigger can.
The illegal immigrant issue has corrupted and run like a boll weevil through every single issue Americans are concerned with.
Face it: Illegal Immigrancy is the largest PREFERENTIAL AFFIRMATIVE ACTION POLICY running through all issues current in America. It's so huge, so insidious, so thoroughly corruptive, it's going to take more time and careful strategy to deal with than simply ordering a "border shut down", IME. There's going to have to be checkers to oversee those running those bureacracies "aiding" and "facilitating" illegal immigrancy.
On another note... have I told you, lately, how much I despise and scorn UNIONS and special interest groups in California?
I made it up. The price really doesn't matter. It could be $3 a head or $30. Until it becomes important to the voter it will never be important to the politician. (I don't agree with this I'm simply saying that this is the facts of life.)
As long as the average citizen views this as a non-problem. As long as Presidents grant clemency to illegals... and as long as farmers and industry hire illegals... and as long as there is a profit to be made by cheap labor we will never see INS or the Border Patrol with the power they need to enforce our borders.
Yes there is a legal way to enter this country but sealing the border to illegal Mexicans is a political time bomb for any politician elected in a border state. Until 9/11 illegal entry was never a major problem for either political party.
I don't have time at the moment to reply properly to your post but will as soon as I can find a little spare time. I'm just checking in between tasks. You have touched on a few things I'd like to address.
Perhaps I've assumed too much. Like some others, I don't think you understand the point I'm trying to make. These figures are not 'forged'... they are not 'wrong'. The price of "anything" makes no difference as long as a profit can be made from "cheap illegal labor".
Until citizens start complaining...; politicians will never stop illegal entry into the United States as long as there is a profit to be made from illegal labor, ...as long as it saves citizens cash at the retail end. There is never a national cry to stop illegal entry until we feel it in our pocket book.
It is a sad commentary but from my experience most so-called citizens are motivated by cash not by patriotism, not by character, and certainly not by morals. In fact I would say that most citizens no longer believe there is such a thing as a "moral absolute". But then again most who call themselves Christian are Christian in name only.
An example of what I'm speaking about is WalMart's once "American Made" policy now turned to selling communist made goods from China rather than American made goods. I'm told by Walmart employees, I've worked with, that approximately 75% of their merchandise is foreign made. Most coming from Communist China. Our citizens don't seem to mind supporting a communist way of life as long as they can save a penny or two.
As for stopping illegal Mexicans at the border; forget it. It will never happen until voters feel the pinch in their wallets. Politicians are not motivated by laws or the United States Constitution. Politicians are motivated by power, control and staying in office.
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