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This is a light-hearted trial balloon from the Hard Left. But it's a topic that has intruiged me for years. In this ancient and outdated Publius Essay from 1999 I explored the secession of Texas and Utah under the Hillary Clinton presidency.

I'm working on a new Publius Essay about the coming splintering of the Democratic Party, and I hope to have that ready after the election. As the forces of the Left lose their ability to influence national policy, one of my suspicions is that we'll see more talk like this.

1 posted on 09/25/2004 11:49:45 AM PDT by Publius
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Please ping the chapter. This should generate some fun.


2 posted on 09/25/2004 11:50:41 AM PDT by Publius (Sleep nude; don't FReep nude.)
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Actually it would be a good idea to remove Washington and Oregon (really, Northern California all the way to the Canadian border) from the American defense perimeter.

That way when the North Koreans hit them with nuclear warheads we need not be bothered!

4 posted on 09/25/2004 11:52:16 AM PDT by muawiyah
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A recent CNN poll on swing states showed that Washington was the only state that supports John Kerry even more than it supported Al Gore.
5 posted on 09/25/2004 11:52:23 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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This is the second OpEd I've seen today that involved claims that more educated citizens vote Kerry, while the uneducated mo-rons in flyover country are voting for Bush.

I think we all knew that the left felt this way, but it's surprising they're beginning to openly admit their arrogance.

6 posted on 09/25/2004 11:52:53 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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Two words: "good riddance".


8 posted on 09/25/2004 11:54:23 AM PDT by jpl (John Kerry is the 2-7 offsuit in the great Presidential poker game.)
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Notice that he said "most educated." He didn't say "smartest." There's a huge difference.


9 posted on 09/25/2004 11:54:54 AM PDT by atomicweeder
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The Untied States of America?


10 posted on 09/25/2004 11:55:06 AM PDT by Ed_in_NJ (I'm in old skivvies and New Jersey, and I approved this message.)
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Brad Upton just celebrated his 20th year as a stand-up comedian

I think I know why no one's ever heard of him.

12 posted on 09/25/2004 11:55:45 AM PDT by fat city (Julius Rosenberg's soviet code name was "Liberal")
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In the immortal words of the Bard,


"Do not let-ith the screen door hit-ith you in the arse on thy way out!"



Remember, Shakespear was from Southern England.


14 posted on 09/25/2004 11:56:56 AM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (Kerry broke the faith, pure and simple.)
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People actively talking about this sort of thing really seems to indicate we've got a second Civil War on the horizon.


15 posted on 09/25/2004 11:57:21 AM PDT by Crazieman (Hanoi John Effin Kerry. War Criminal. Traitor. Democrat.)
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Regarding the article saying that God was punishing Florida for what happened in 2000; Maybe he was just punishing the tens of thousands of Democrats who were illegally registered in New York AND Florida. If we factor out the illegal sleaze vote it wasn't really close at all. Seriously though, the bible is clear that the rain falls on the just and the unjust.
18 posted on 09/25/2004 11:58:43 AM PDT by Mojave Mark
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Us dumb folk in Clark Co. voted Bush in 2000.


19 posted on 09/25/2004 11:58:48 AM PDT by elder5 (freedom is not America's gift to the world, it is the Almighty God's gift)
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I don't think Bill Gates and Boeing would allow this to happen.
20 posted on 09/25/2004 12:00:00 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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Get some lawyers to work poring over the Oregon treaty of 1846 with Britain...perhaps Washington and Oregon really belong to Canada after all. Or we can tell the Brits that we have changed our minds and will accept the Columbia River as the border (which is what the British wanted).


21 posted on 09/25/2004 12:00:02 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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God sent the libs a message in Washington with Mt. St Helens. And it's rumbling again. Even libs oughta get the message.


26 posted on 09/25/2004 12:04:15 PM PDT by JeeperFreeper
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If three hurricanes in a row slamming into Florida right before the 2004 election isn't a clear sign from the Almighty that he wasn't pleased with how things went in that state in 2000, I don't know what is.

I feel sorry for God. For all the absudities he's blamed for.

29 posted on 09/25/2004 12:05:22 PM PDT by Guard Dog (Who fears the wrath of a coward?)
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Publius, as you know, Seattle proper is where the Dem support is and the rest of Washington state is predominantly more conservative - dare I say - Republican. The rest of the state is also who produces all that he thinks are the "weapons" he will use to coerce the rest of the country. Liberal Seattle are the ones who are not happy with a Bush Presidency, but if they seceded, they would have nothing to offer the rest of the world. Jets, software, hops, apples, lumber, energy, etc. are all produced in the "red" parts of the state outside of Seattle.


31 posted on 09/25/2004 12:06:15 PM PDT by SW6906
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If the rest of the more conservative, less educated citizens of the United States decide that W is a great leader and he gets re-elected, it's time for desperate measures.

The arrogance and condescension of that statement astound me.

32 posted on 09/25/2004 12:07:19 PM PDT by Guard Dog (Who fears the wrath of a coward?)
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Well, when you have a community in Seattle which propped up this old statue of Lenin, why would anyone be surprised? Washington would overwhelmingly support Lenin if he were the DNC nominee
33 posted on 09/25/2004 12:07:24 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (Liberalism IS a mental disease, thanks to Gramsci, Marcuse and others from the Frankfurt School.)
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George Bush wouldn't HAVE to do anything - What this guy is advocating would lead to an internal civil war in this state... one the liberals would not, could not, win...

On the plus side, there would be a lot fewer liberals in this state at the end of it, wich means this state would no longer be in the "D" column...

Go for it, dude!


34 posted on 09/25/2004 12:07:55 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (How do you ask a hamster to be the last hamster to die for a mistake?)
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