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How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power
Guardian ^ | 09/25/04 | Ben Aris

Posted on 09/24/2004 7:11:41 PM PDT by Pikamax

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To: Pikamax
Hey, Guardian, how's about your pushover, weak willed former Prime Minister, the patsy who waved Hitler's signed treaty upon returning from Munich and who had appeased previous Nazi moves into Czechoslovakia and Austria being, I dunno, about a billion times more responsible for "Hitler's rise to power" than Prescott Bush or any other US industrialist or politician.

Besides, Prescott was too busy establishing Planned Parenthood and the American Eugenics Society to pay much mind to foreign affairs. Geez, you'd think all members of the Bush clan were spawns of Satan the way the Left hates them so.

81 posted on 09/24/2004 7:56:28 PM PDT by LincolnLover (Say No to Vanities! Posting Help--http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1179671/posts)
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To: Pikamax

Is this another attempt by the left-wing fascist democrats to tell more lies. This story was a fabrication long ago. The real story is that the leftw-ing democrats in the United States supported Nazi Germany up until they attacked the USSR. Before that time the left-wing in the United States even went on strike to deny the British food and arms with which to fight. Hitler was a national socialist just like left-wing democrats are. His brown shirts were just like the anti-war democrats of the 1960's and 1970's.


82 posted on 09/24/2004 7:57:01 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: Pikamax
You mean to tell me, all the digging the left has been doing for ANYTHING, ANYTHING they can find that might stick to Bush.......and they haven't stumbled across THIS??

KEN LAY OF ENRON ON THERESA HEINZ BOARD OF DIRECTORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KEN LAY'S KERRY CONNECTION

JOHN KERRY'S ENRON CONNECTION

83 posted on 09/24/2004 7:57:20 PM PDT by soozla ("I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not too sure............"-John Kerry)
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To: eeriegeno

Among other details they conveniently forget, the darling of the liberals, Averell Harriman, was also deeply, involved financially in helping Hitler and the Nazis reach the top.


84 posted on 09/24/2004 7:58:44 PM PDT by Postman
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To: dts32041
You're correct!! Amb Kennedy was actually set up by MI5 for assisting the Nazis just so FDR could call him home and hold charges of espionage over his head to shut him up. I will not say Amb kennedy supported Hitler, he didn't, but he was a businessman wh hated the Brits, Irish roots, and believed they were doomed and that is was good business for the U,S, to make the best deal it could and not throw good money after bad by supporting Britain.

Amb Kennedy was far more dangerous to the U.S. for his views on Hitler than Prescott Bush could ever have been.

My own problem with the Bush family was with the relative for whom Bush 41 is named, Herbert Walker. A major bussinessman he was also a part owner of the NY Baseball Giants with Horace Stoneham and Joan Whitney Payson. Payson tried to get Walker to join her in preventing Stoneham moving to SF. He backed Stomeham. For that I can't forgive, he helped rob me of the best years of Willie Mays.

85 posted on 09/24/2004 7:58:48 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (" You have never tasted freedom my friend, else you would know, it is purchased not with gold, but w)
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To: gilliam
Well, I suppose we could bring up Ted Kennedy's Dad... naw... old news

That was my first thought also, but that would be mean spirited wouldn't it? Sheesh!

86 posted on 09/24/2004 7:59:38 PM PDT by ladyinred ("John Kerry reporting for spitball and typewriter duty.")
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To: Pikamax
Coordinating with the enemy: Vietnam Veterans Against the War in Paris and Hanoi ----------

A major theme of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) in 1971 involved sending representatives to Paris and to Hanoi to meet with communist leaders.

John Kerry has admitted to meeting in 1970 in Paris with Madame Nguyen Thi Binh, the Foreign Minister of the Provisional Revolutionary Government, the "waiting-in-the-wings government" ready to take over South Vietnam once the Communists won. The Viet Cong operated as the military arm of the PRG. Kerry also met with representatives of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, the official name of the North Vietnamese communist government in Hanoi. North Vietnam's lead delegate at that time was Le Duc Tho, who along with Ho Chi Minh was one of the original founders of the Communist Party of Indochina and one of North Vietnam's chief strategists.

On June 16, 1971, the communist Daily World newspaper quoted Kerry as planning a month-long trip to South Vietnam in July to report on "what is really happening" to the American soldiers over there. Newly released FBI files on the VVAW also report that John Kerry made a second trip to Paris in the summer of 1971 to meet again with the Vietnamese communist peace delegations and try to arrange a prisoner release.

The national VVAW leadership gathered in Kansas City from Friday, November 12, through Sunday, November 14 for a raucous meeting. Sparks started flying a couple of hours into the meeting when Steering Committee member Al Hubbard arrived from the airport by taxicab. Hubbard, a former Black Panther and the man who had appointed John Kerry to the VVAW leadership in the summer of 1970, had just returned from Paris where he had met with the Vietnamese communist delegations to the Paris Peace Talks. Hubbard reported that he had just concluded negotiations with the Vietnamese Communists and they were ready to release a group of American POWs to the VVAW, provided that the VVAW would send a delegation to Hanoi around Christmas. Hubbard told the group that the Communist Party USA had paid for his trip.

John Kerry, also a member of the 5-man Steering Committee, had long had a contentious relationship with Hubbard. After sharing an appearance on the NBC television show, "Meet the Press," on April 18, 1971 Kerry learned that Hubbard had not been an Air Force captain as he claimed, but only a sergeant. Later investigations showed that despite his stories of being wounded flying in combat, Hubbard had never been a pilot, and in fact had never been assigned to Vietnam.

Now, according to the FBI files, Kerry made a motion to remove Hubbard from the Steering Committee -- a motion that was voted down. Kerry then stated that he intended to resign from the VVAW Steering Committee for "personal reasons," but agreed to remain on the Steering Committee until a replacement had been selected.

VVAW national staff member Joe Urgo was up next. According to an FBI report filed on November 24, 1971, Urgo reported that he had traveled to Hanoi in August 1971 to work directly with North Vietnamese leaders. Urgo brought home proposals for the VVAW to: (1) create tapes to be sent to North Vietnam for broadcast over Radio Hanoi urging US servicemen to stop fighting in Vietnam, and (2) send a delegation to Hanoi to negotiate the release of American POWs, a proposal that echoed Hubbard's report from Paris.

The now public FBI record clearly indicates that the VVAW of November 1971 had come under communist influence and was acting directly with the enemy to work against US military objectives in the war. Not only was the VVAW continuing to undermine support for the war in the United States through its false claims of war crimes and atrocities, but now the VVAW was negotiating with America's enemies to effect the release of POWs to enhance their credibility as an organization, and actively encouraging soldiers in the field to refuse orders to engage the enemy in combat.

This appears to violate US Code 18 USC 953, which directly forbids US citizens from negotiating with foreign powers, as well as Article III, Section 3 of the US Constitution, which defines treason as giving aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war. The record reflects John Kerry's decision to tender his resignation from the VVAW Steering Committee, but that resignation was not to be effective immediately, nor did John Kerry stop acting as the group's public spokesperson.

It is clear that the VVAW leaders understood the seditious nature of their activities -- they relocated twice to avoid surveillance by government authorities. That turned out to be a vain hope, since the FBI had multiple informers inside the meeting. They then debated and voted down a proposal to assassinate several pro-war US Senators. John Kerry, who until recently claimed to have resigned from the VVAW the previous June, was also present for this session according to the FBI files and a number of eyewitnesses. Senator Kerry now says he remembers nothing of the Kansas City meeting.

John Kerry would continue to serve as the VVAW's primary spokesman for several more months. Newspaper reports indicate that he represented the VVAW in public appearances at least as late as April 1972.

The FBI files on the VVAW raise many questions, but one thing is clear: John Kerry and his VVAW comrades were welcome guests of the Vietnamese communists in both Paris and Hanoi, guests who could be counted on to actively support the leadership of America's wartime enemy.

---------- Jerome R. Corsi, Ph.D Scott Swett

87 posted on 09/24/2004 8:01:32 PM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: Pikamax
How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power Rumours of a link between the US first family and the Nazi war machine have circulated for decades. Now the Guardian can reveal how repercussions of events that culminated in action under the Trading with the Enemy Act are still being felt by today's president

Don't go there kids ..... Three words : 1930's JOE KENNEDY.

Ya sure ya wana play ?

88 posted on 09/24/2004 8:03:28 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: Pikamax

Of course this means kerry's treason makes him highly qual. to be C.I.C.,,burp. Meanwhile, back at the pub, the Guardian has recieved a rectal thermometer which it doesn't know how to use,,,,,,,yet.


89 posted on 09/24/2004 8:03:50 PM PDT by Waco
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To: Pikamax

John Kerry admits to committing atrocities in Vietnam -- April 18, 1971 (0:31)


http://www.wintersoldier.com/audio/kerry2.mp3


90 posted on 09/24/2004 8:04:37 PM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: Pikamax

John Kerry testifies about American "war crimes" in Vietnam -- April 22, 1971 (1:32)


http://www.wintersoldier.com/audio/warcrimes.mp3


91 posted on 09/24/2004 8:06:26 PM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: AnnaZ

More proof that Bush is Hitler incarnate!
If only Bush were Jewish, the picture would be complete.


92 posted on 09/24/2004 8:06:35 PM PDT by Feiny (Here's to swimmin with bow legged women!)
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To: eeriegeno
The author forgets that GW Bush's great-great grandfather, GreatGreatGrandpappy Bush, actually helped Halliburton back in the late 1700's to lock up the cotton crop that kept the blacks enslaved for many more years? Now that's something that is important in the year 2004! Why do that skip over that detail?

Don't you know a distant ancestor of Bush also piloted the first slave ship to the New World?

93 posted on 09/24/2004 8:09:15 PM PDT by killjoy (The sky is falling and I want my mommy.)
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To: oldtimer
Is this what one calls a barf alert? The source is the Guardian and that is the same as a barf alert.
94 posted on 09/24/2004 8:13:01 PM PDT by DrDavid (I'd Rather Not)
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To: Semi Civil Servant

Hmmm, you're on to something.


95 posted on 09/24/2004 8:16:45 PM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: Pikamax

Did anyone ever suggest that maybe Kerry arranged for Heinz's plane to crash so that he could put the moves on Teresa? Is this Bush grandfather story kind of like that?


96 posted on 09/24/2004 8:17:02 PM PDT by Contra
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To: John Lenin

You're not playing fair; it's not fair to quote Kerry's record; it's only fair to make things up about Bush's granfather's third cousin.


97 posted on 09/24/2004 8:19:38 PM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: Pikamax

And I thought all their money came from oil -

I'm finally seeing the difference between Yale and the other place(Harvard) -

Interestingly small world it has become -

Skull and Bones is to Yale as ?(what) is to the other - ?

just wondering -


98 posted on 09/24/2004 8:24:47 PM PDT by Pastnowfuturealpha
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To: Pikamax

I won't even mention the "proof" that all the Bush kids are actually clones of Hitler.


99 posted on 09/24/2004 8:30:02 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Pikamax
Those clowns have not learned anything yet from the nrwly created "RatherGate"!

My Father had been a Fish Exporter in Denmark and so was also my Grandfather. His export business was mainly with Germany and U.K. After the German occupation of Denmark 1940-45 all ties with England was lost including all the funds my Father had there. Similar loses with his German customers. According to those presstitutes perversed views, this issue should be an embarrassment for me personally?
Is it no wonder that the medias are loosing out big time to the likes as we the "Freeper-Muhadeens"??
100 posted on 09/24/2004 8:40:09 PM PDT by danamco
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