[SwinneySwitch]

He's right about it being divided, Ben and his daughter Amy are certainly divided!

"I'm very concerned about the fact that the religious right in this country--"

Is this a term that would have been used in 1945?

[atomicpossum]

Dems are always concerned about the country being 'divided' when they are losing. When they're shoving the Republicans out the door, 'division' is never a concern of theirs.

[Christian4Bush]

I think the country is probably more divided today then it's been since the Civil War.

And WHO's doing the dividing, Clymer?

And by the way, Opie, how interesting is it that just by mentioning our name, you acknowledge that we are right?

[Restorer]

I have a letter in my possession from my grandfather who wrote to my uncle who was on Iwo Jima. And in the first paragraph, he talks about the crops are in the ground. We've had ground rain. He's trying to write a kind of letter to cheer my uncle up. But he says in the next paragraph that, "I'm very concerned about the fact that the religious right in this country--" and he talked about a person that was on the radio that was talking about the religion and politics had to mix.

I don't believe it. I very seriously doubt the phrase "religious right" had ever been used prior to the 80s, 70s at the earliest. He is lying about this letter.

If he does have such a document, I bet it was written in proportional spacing Times New Roman font!

Be the first person to find a legitimate use of the term "religious right" from the WWII era, used in its present sense. I will personally send you $5.

[grace522]

Is it really his assertion that we are suffering from too much religion in our country? That doesn't pass the straight face test.

[NYCVirago]

I think the country is probably more divided today then it's been since the Civil War.

What nonsense. We're more divided than in the 1960s? Gimme a break.

[grace522]

I agree, Barnes is lying right through his teeth. How can we call him on the carpet? Any ideas?

[longtermmemmory]

the left most fears religion. this has been a cosistent dnc taling poit against bush. the fear that bush's example will allow people to speak of God without fear of legal cosequences

[clee1]

I think the country is probably more divided today then it's been since the Civil War.

Though most of Barnes' screed is unmitigated bullsqueeze, he is correct in this. The Second Civil War draws near.

[Mach9]

First thing I saw! Is Burkett typing for him, too?

[NYCVirago]

"I'm very concerned about the fact that the religious right in this country--" Is this a term that would have been used in 1945?

Back then, even Democrats believed in God, so no, it wouldn't have been used. Besides, there really was no such thing as "the right," or a conservative movement, as we know it. And there was no separation of church and state movement back then. Madalyn Murray O'Hair was the leader of that, and she didn't start until the early 60s. I never even heard the "religious right" term used until the 1980s.

As for "and he talked about a person that was on the radio that was talking about the religion and politics had to mix. And that we should get involved because God was telling us to do this. And God was telling us to do that," the only person that could have possibly been was Father Coughlin, but he stopped his broadcasts in 1940, three years before this alleged letter. And Couglin started out an FDR fan, but became disillusioned with him for not being radical enough!

[moonman]

'I think the country is probably more divided today then it's been since the Civil War"

Apparently you were out of the country during the Klintoon years, (!)wipe

[gilliam]

I think the country is probably more divided today then it's been since the Civil War.

I don't agree

[Soul Seeker]

No, I don't believe "religious right" was coined then. They certainly wouldn't have been frightened by the "right" at the time, either. The Left was dominant, FDR loyalties.

And, then, people in both parties actually believed in God. Right now I count only Zell and Joe that still practice their faith with sincerity.

[ShadowDancer]

"I'm very concerned about the fact that the religious right in this country--"

I highly doubt this is a phrase that was in use then. It hasn't even been mainstreamed for more than 30 years at best.

[shrinkermd]

It is not the "religious right" that bothers the RATS, but the fact that most people believe there is such as thing as moral certainty. Post modernism, liberals and the left all nuance everything.

Barnes was hand picked by LBJ to be the next Senator or Governor of Texas and then President. Unfortunately Barnes had no sense of moral certainty and got caught with his other post modern Texas RAT brethern in a fraud. His political career ended and he has been resentful since --after all what is a psychopath to do if he cannot enter public service?

[xkaydet65]

No it wasn't used in 1945. The guy his grandfather probably heard was Father Coughlin. Coughlin was a Catholic priest whose Detroit Church was burned by the Klan. He was a supporter of FDR and the New Deal until he became convinced of its godless communist direction, He saw international Jewry as the force behind Communism. He was against entry into WWII, but like other isolationists he became irrelevant after Pearl Harbor.

If Barnes grandfather was a Texas Democrat he would have been a segregationist and he would hardly have been the type to separate religion and politics since they were linked in the South.

It is doubtful that Father Coughlin would have been listened to by many southern whites as he was a crusading Catholic and I find it hard to believe he could have found a radio station in the south to give him airtime.

This is just more making it up as you go along. Like Clinton remembering burning black churches in Arkansas when it never happened there. These people must believe that we're all mindless to fall for this nonsense. Maybe they're right about enough to give them the White House.

[okokie]

RELIGIOUS RIGHT
gees what's up with these people- definitely not the language in the 40's

[razorback-bert]

ground rain?

First time, I have ever heard of suchathing and I thought I was good on Southern sayings.

[Humidston]

I don't believe him. Ben Barnes has proved he's a liar so I refuse to believe anything he claims to have in his possession. Period.

....Not to mention he's a pond slug.