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Lockhart Knew!
PoliPundit.com ^ | 9/24/04 | PoliPundit

Posted on 09/24/2004 4:31:20 AM PDT by sampai

Senior Kerry campaign adviser Joe Lockhart tried to convince Bill Burkett to give him the forgeries:

During a single phone conversation with Lockhart, Burkett said he suggested a "couple of concepts on what I thought [Kerry] had to do" to beat Bush. In return, he said, Lockhart tried to "convince me as to why I should give them the documents."
If Burkett is lying, Lockhart can prove it quite easily: by releasing his phone records for that day.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: burkett; cbs; collaboration; lockhart; rathergate
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1 posted on 09/24/2004 4:31:20 AM PDT by sampai
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To: sampai

what does a phone record prove or disprove?


2 posted on 09/24/2004 4:32:56 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: sampai

Phone records will only show the call and length of call. Unless Burkett recorded the conversation, it's a mute point.


3 posted on 09/24/2004 4:35:32 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: sampai
Why are you guys jumpin on this? Both of these dudes are proven LIARS!!

Gee Wiz, at least look at the phone records first!

4 posted on 09/24/2004 4:38:09 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: Elle Bee
...what does a phone record prove or disprove?

It simply proves that the MSM and even O'Reilly think we're stupid if they think anyone thinks Lockhart and Burkett were talking about the weather.........

5 posted on 09/24/2004 4:39:12 AM PDT by yoe
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To: sampai

The length of the call would be revealing.


6 posted on 09/24/2004 4:39:49 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Elle Bee

IF lockhart was calling burkett to brush him off and do a favor as he claimed, two minutes tops. IF lockhart called burkett to get his hands on his own copies of the forged docs they would have had much more to discuss. Then it is collusion with cbs who gave him the tip and that is only the tip of the iceberg.


7 posted on 09/24/2004 4:43:30 AM PDT by tioga
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To: Elle Bee
Lockhart claims that they talked only for three or four minutes. If Burkett is telling the truth, they probably talked a lot longer than that.
8 posted on 09/24/2004 4:43:32 AM PDT by sampai
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To: leadpenny
The length of the call would be revealing.

Or even how many phone calls were made!

Just because Lockhart said it was one call is no reason to believe it.

9 posted on 09/24/2004 4:43:58 AM PDT by airborne (God answers all prayers. Sometimes the answer is ,"No".)
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To: sampai
If Burkett is lying, Lockhart can prove it quite easily: by releasing his phone records for that day.

What makes you think that Lockhart made the call from his personal phone. Wasn't he (Lockhart) working for the Kerry campaign at the time? Why wouldn't he use one of the campaign phones? And if he did, how could you trace the call to Lockhart as opposed to some other staffer?

10 posted on 09/24/2004 4:44:15 AM PDT by laredo44 (Liberty is not the problem)
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To: sampai
Lockhart did know about this way before his Burkett chat. Kerry has excerpts posted from the memo's on his web site in April, 2004 including references to a bogus Air Force Manual that had nothing to do with President Bush's service.
11 posted on 09/24/2004 4:46:21 AM PDT by wattsup ("It's best to stay silent and be thought of as a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.." ..Abe L.)
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To: sampai

burkett is going to bring the rats down. frenchie's campaign fingerprints are all over this.


12 posted on 09/24/2004 4:47:04 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 ( Kerry's not "one of us": catholicsagainstkerry.com. needs your help.)
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To: Hatteras; sampai
Unless Burkett recorded the conversation, it's a mute point.

"Mute" and moot. ;-)

13 posted on 09/24/2004 4:47:05 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza - let them run around naked, at least the kids)
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To: sampai

I knew(!!) Burkett was the weak link in all this. Lesson: don't tie your wagon to a nutcase!

I hope this hits the Dem Party right where they live-- in the pocketbook. Can you imagine how pissed you would be if you gave this group of clowns millions? They behave like this is high school. It is sad that a major American political party can no longer be considered a "serious" participant in our public discourse. We're at war for christsake!


14 posted on 09/24/2004 4:47:41 AM PDT by godfodder
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To: Elle Bee

>>what does a phone record prove or disprove?<<

Length of call. Lockhart said the conversation lasted only about five minutes, if I remember correctly.

The fact that there WAS a conversation is damning, but if Lockhart lied aout this, it will be devastating.

However, I am confident that it has been plenty devastating already.


15 posted on 09/24/2004 4:47:54 AM PDT by SerpentDove (It's Christmas in September.)
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To: yoe
We should see the records, but they don't prove what the conversation is about.

I was on the phone last night, talking to a friend of mine in Mass. It was a 10 minute conversation. Was it about:

Her father's illness?
The place where I'm living now?
How to load Symantec? or
Plans for her visit?

It was about one of those topics. Which was it? Prove it.

16 posted on 09/24/2004 4:48:43 AM PDT by theDentist (Proud Member of FreeRepublic 's "Pyjama-Hadeen")
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To: laredo44

Lockhart already admitted talking to Burkett. That doesn't need to be proved. They both admit to speaking to each other. Lochart says 3-4 minutes. If the records show 8-10 minutes, then we'll know Lockhart is lying. Burkett better stay away from Fort Marcy Park.


17 posted on 09/24/2004 4:50:37 AM PDT by Ron in Acreage (Kerry is a threat to national security)
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To: Hatteras
Written notes are admissible too.
18 posted on 09/24/2004 4:52:50 AM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: sampai
A fundamental question is how Lockhart was approached.

A CBS producer calls him and says exactly what? Lockhart certainly didn't agree to take a phone call from a perfect stranger without some inkling of what the Producer was trying to get from their source. And was there an existing relationship between Mapes and Lockhart, or was this supposed to be some sort of 'cold' call (if so, this would make the disclosure of what they were on to much more likely)?

Otherwise, we're supposed to believe that Joe Lockhart is just too happy to have chit-chatty phone conversations with perfect strangers at the behest of people he's never heard of.

19 posted on 09/24/2004 4:57:29 AM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.©)
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To: Elle Bee

Maybe it was recorded for "quality purposes" (just kidding).


20 posted on 09/24/2004 5:00:16 AM PDT by katana
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