Did Kerry Lie about Attending the Signing of the Gulf-War Ceasefire

O'Reilly Factor ^ | 24 Sept 2004 | Rokke

[Rokke]

I just watched the rerun of O'Reilly's 2001 interview with Kerry discussing the need to invade Iraq. In that interview, Kerry said the following: "I mean, I was in Safwan. I went there when the signing of the armistice took place at the end of the war." I've watched the video of the cease-fire signing at Safwan. It was still in a combat zone. I don't remember seeing anyone but military officers. Can anyone provide additional insight, or has Kerry lied again.

[Bellflower]

Excellent! I'll BUMP the info!

LET'S SPREAD THIS LIKE FIRE

The Dems are going to run for cover

KERRY LIED AGAIN

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[calcowgirl]

Still looking...

USA Today Information Network Mar 14, 1991

Unrest delays final accord, troop return

Unrest in Iraq and allied demands that Iraq comply with U.N. resolutions may delay signing a final cease-fire by several weeks, Western diplomats said Wednesday. That would mean U.S. and French troops may remain in southern Iraq for months; Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf has said the coalition won't pull out until a definitive cease-fire is signed.

[singfreedom]

The actual negotiations were held Mar. 3. In 'It Doesn't Take a Hero", Schwarzkopf says the UN must ratify the agreement. Maybe that is the Mar.6th date? Again, according to the Schwarzkopf book, A Congressional delegation was there on Mar. 16. It was led by Congressman Ford. (Would it be led by a Congressman if a Senator was along?)

[texastoo]

Let's face it. Kerry would not have gone to Safwan on a vacation or holiday. He had to go with a congressional delegation in other words with one or more congressmen. So who were the other congressmen? I have googled and can't find anything.

[hmmmmm]

I found a link that would back up the 3/3/91 signing date but it made the page whack out. Here it is, broken up to fit.

http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:OlfFvsMimXMJ:www.usemb
assy.it/pdf/other/RL31641.pdf+safwan+accords+signed&hl=en

[mdittmar]

If this pans out,kerry unintentionally tossed it.

[singfreedom]

Maybe if we try looking for Congressman Ford? As I understand it he was heading up the Congressional delegation Schwarzkoph met with them on the 16th, in Iraq. No indication they were there on the 3rd, doesn't say when they arrived. My guess, it was too dangerous on the 3rd.

[idkfa]

Formal cease fire was with UN resolution 687 on April 8. 1991

http://www.fas.org/news/un/iraq/sres/sres0687.htm

[ArmstedFragg]

True they talked about it on the 3rd, but did not sign anything.

Doesn't matter. He spoke on the floor of the Senate on the 6th and 7th.

[Terp]

We're starting to mix up apples with oranges here folks. Kerry said he was at the Safwan ceasefire signing. That has been established to have occured on 3 March 91. Kerry was actually attending the Brazil Night party in Boston [?] the evening of 2 March and would not of had time to get to Iraq in time for the signing.

You have to remember that it was a war zone with no commercial airlines flying into country. So he would of had to fly into Kuwait and then hoof it from there. Impossible, there aren't enough hours in a day.

[singfreedom]

I think with the time differences it would be very difficult to go to an "affair" on the 2nd, fly to Iraq, and be back for speeches on the 6th and 7th. He'd be a worse Zombie than usual!

[LayoutGuru2]

Hey, you are self-correcting. ;)

[The Bandit]

Was March 3 a Sat by chance? I don't have a 1991 calander in front of me.

[icwhatudo]

Agreed.

The official meeting/signing/get together yada yada yada was March 3 LOCAL DATE of the Safwan accords.

Just because they didn't "formally" agree in Bagdad until some other date at some other place means nothing to kerrys claim.

[BC girl]

Saw the headline and didn't even need to read more. "Did Kerry lie?" He usually does, he'll contradict himself in the same sentence so lie sure. "I voted for the 87 billion right before I voted against it." Guess what? You can't do both so one of those statements is a lie. Christmas in Cambodia, lie. He's like a writer who writes himself into his own book where he is the hero. Kerry writes himself into his own life for whatever story he needs to tell at the time. This is a horrible man. Bet the Democrats wish they had voted for Dean in those primaries. I'll bet when he was younger he was one of those "West Wing" types who walked around quoting his SAT scores to everyone as if scoring well on a standardized test is some mark of character and substance.

"I'm John Forbes Kerry, middle name Forbes because my dad wanted me to think rich and marry well. Blah, blah, blah, SAT, blah, blah, blah, Boarding School in France, blah, blah, blah, Fenced at Yale, blah, blah, blah, I'm so boring I wish someone would shoot me."

[Casloy]

Somebody has to. Sometimes I type way too fast for my own good.

[js1138]

"I mean, I was in Safwan. I went there when the signing of the armistice took place at the end of the war."

Actually it's seared into my memory. Christmas in Safwan.

[calcowgirl]

In the first post, Rokke quoted Kerry: "I mean, I was in Safwan. I went there when the signing of the armistice took place at the end of the war."

So... if we assume by "armistice" (dictionary definition: "truce") that he meant the Safwan accords, then he would be referring to the March 3 date (when he was really hob-nobbing in WDC). The term "cease-fire" appears to be the term used in UN Resolution 687, which I am assuming would not have been signed in Safwan, but went into force when declared by the UN, April 11, 1991.

My conclusion: Kerry lied.

www.fas.org/news/iraq/1992/920311-219106.htm

Nearly one year ago, on April 3, 1991, the council adopted Resolution 687. This comprehensive and unprecedented resolution established a detailed framework for restoring and maintaining international peace and security in the Gulf region. Passage of this resolution was one of the most, important actions ever taken by the council, responding to the hope of mankind to make the United Nations an instrument of peace and stability.

Resolution 687 required Iraq to take precise steps on many issues. Iraq formally notified the secretary-general and the Security Council by letter on April 4, 1991, followed by an Iraqi letter of April 11, 1991 from its National Assembly, of its acceptance of the Resolution. Thus, a formal ceasefire to the Gulf conflict came into effect on April 11, 1991.

[HannaUSA]

I searched the Boston Globe for all of Mar and Apr for any article involving Kerry AND Safwan. This was the ONLY one.

SENATORS DOUBT US WILL INTERVENE IN IRAQI STRIFE
Published on March 17, 1991
Author(s): Elizabeth Neuffer, Globe Staff

KUWAIT CITY -- A delegation of senators yesterday told US soldiers massed on the Iraqi border that it is unlikely US forces will intervene in Iraq's civil war and predicted that the soldiers will return home soon to a hero's welcome.

The delegation swooped down in glistening helicopters on the border outpost of Safwan, Iraq, to meet with the US Army's 1st Armored Division, which helped spearhead the allied ground offensive against Iraq and tangled with the Republican
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