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Microsoft: To secure IE, upgrade to XP
CNet News ^ | September 23, 2004 | Paul Festa

Posted on 09/23/2004 5:27:15 PM PDT by NCjim

If you're one of about 200 million people using older versions of Windows and you want the latest security enhancements to Internet Explorer, get your credit card ready.

Microsoft this week reiterated that it would keep the new version of Microsoft's IE Web browser available only as part of the recently released Windows XP operating system, Service Pack 2. The upgrade to XP from any previous Windows versions is $99 when ordered from Microsoft. Starting from scratch, the operating system costs $199.

What's new: People using older versions of Windows can't get an important security update to the Internet Explorer browser without paying for an XP upgrade.

Bottom line: Microsoft's policy could drive XP upgrades, but it also risks alienating Web surfers and prompting them to turn to free alternatives such as Firefox.

That, analysts say, is a steep price to pay to secure a browser that swept the market as a free, standalone product.

"It's a problem that people should have to pay for a whole OS upgrade to get a safe browser," said Michael Cherry, analyst with Directions on Microsoft in Redmond, Wash. "It does look like a certain amount of this is to encourage upgrade to XP."

Microsoft affirmed that its recent security improvements to IE would be made available only to XP users.

"We do not have plans to deliver Windows XP SP2 enhancements for Windows 2000 or other older versions of Windows," the company said in a statement. "The most secure version of Windows today is Windows XP with SP2. We recommend that customers upgrade to XP and SP2 as quickly as possible."

The Internet's security mess has proved profitable for many companies, particularly antivirus firms. Microsoft has declared security job No. 1.

By refusing to offer IE's security upgrades to users of older operating systems except through paid upgrades to XP, Microsoft may be turning the lemons of its browser's security reputation into the lemonade of a powerful upgrade selling point.

That lemonade comes in the midst of a painfully dry spell for the company's operating system business.

Three years have passed since Microsoft introduced its last new operating system, and its upcoming release, code-named Longhorn, has been plagued by delays. Microsoft last month scaled back technical ambitions for Longhorn in order to meet a 2006 deadline.

While Wall Street anxiously awaits an operating system release that can produce revenues until Longhorn appears, Microsoft is eyeing the nearly half of the world's 390 million Windows users who have opted to stick with operating systems older than XP, including Windows versions 2000, ME, 98 and 95.

"Ancient history" Microsoft denied it was deliberately capitalizing on the Internet's security woes to stimulate demand for XP.

"Microsoft is not using security issues or any security situation to try to drive upgrades," said a company representative. "But it only makes sense that the latest products are the most secure."

Microsoft has maintained that the browser is part of the operating system, a point of contention in its antitrust battle with the U.S. government.

Last year, the company ruled out future releases of IE as a standalone product. This week, the company reiterated that stance.

"IE has been a part of the operating system since its release," said the Microsoft representative. "IE is a feature of Windows."

When asked about IE's origin as a free, standalone product, the representative said, "You're talking in software terms that might be considered ancient history."

Microsoft promised "ongoing security updates" for all supported versions of Windows and IE.

The ongoing security updates do not, as Microsoft points out, include the latest security fixes with Service Pack 2, released last month. Those include a new pop-up blocker and a new system of handling ActiveX controls and downloaded content.

And it's those more substantial changes, rather than the bug fixes that come with routine upgrades for supported products, that security organizations have lauded for addressing IE's graver security concerns.

Now it's unclear whether even half the Windows world will have access to the shored up IE.

"It's particularly bothersome if a product is in mainstream support, because what does mainstream support mean then?" said Directions on Microsoft's Cherry.

Microsoft currently commands about 94 percent of the worldwide operating system market measured by software shipments, according to IDC. (That number factors in revenue-producing copies of the open-source Linux operating system, but not free ones).

Of Microsoft's approximately 390 million operating system installations around the world, Windows XP Pro constitutes 26.1 percent, Windows XP Home 24.7 percent, IDC said.

The remaining 49.2 percent is composed of Windows 2000 Professional (17.5 percent), Windows 98 (14.9 percent), Windows ME (6.5 percent), Windows 95 (5.4 percent), and Windows NT Workstation (4.9 percent).

That 49.2 percent of Windows users are left out in the cold when it comes to significant updates to IE and other software.

People running Internet Explorer without SP2 face an array of security scenarios, many of them linked to lax security associated with the ActiveX API, or application programming interface.

SP2 also brought IE up to date with its competitors with a robust pop-up blocker.

"Although I can understand the reasons why Microsoft would like to simplify its internal processes, I'm not in favor of bundling security patches, bug fixes and new features into one package," said IDC Vice President Dan Kusnetsky. "Organizations wanting only security-related updates or just a specific new feature are forced to make an all-or-nothing choice."

Firefox in the hunt While organizations and individuals weigh the merits of all and nothing with respect to Windows and IE, a competing open-source browser may benefit from Microsoft's decision to reserve SP2's browser upgrades for XP users.

The Mozilla Foundation's Firefox browser is potentially eroding Microsoft's overwhelming market share even prior to its final version 1.0 release. Last week's release of the first preview release of Firefox 1.0 blew past its 10-day goal of 1 million downloads in just more than 4 days.

Firefox, Apple Computer's Safari browser and Opera Software's desktop browser together command a mere sliver of market share. But features such as tabbed browsing and earlier adoption of pop-up controls have won them adherents among potentially influential early adopters and technology buffs.

Even some Microsoft bloggers have admitted to liking Firefox.

With Longhorn still years away, Microsoft is feeling the heat to produce a browser.

That heat has come in many forms, from grassroots campaigns by Web developers urging people to switch from IE to Firefox and other alternatives, to Mozilla's own marketing push, to a steady drumbeat of lacerating Web log and newsgroup posts decrying IE's years of stagnation.

"I've always wondered what the problem is with the IE team," one respondent wrote in a feedback thread on IE evangelist Dave Massy's blog. "I mean, it's just a browser. You need to render a page based on well-documented standards...and that's it! You've opted to not have tabbed browsing or any other personalization. It's just a window shell and the browser content...I wonder if there are only like four people who work on IE or something? I seriously don't get it."

Massy and others have defended the company by explaining that recent development efforts have been geared at security improvements.

A representative for Firefox, which will face security scrutiny of its own should it make good on its competitive threat to IE, said any pressure it was exerting on Microsoft to update IE was evidence of its success.

"IE users need all the help they can get," said Mozilla Foundation spokesman Bart Decrem. "And we're trying to help them. If Microsoft will help them, all the better. At the end of the day, the mission of the Mozilla Foundation is to provide meaningful choice, and the reason there hasn't been a lot of innovation from the dominant provider is because of their monopoly position. So if they are forced to innovate and respond to the success of Firefox, we are achieving our mission."

Some analysts say Microsoft's reluctance to issue SP2's browser security features to non-XP users has as much to do with being shorthanded as wanting to drive XP adoption.

"Their main focus now is on Longhorn IE," said Matt Rosoff, another analyst with Directions on Microsoft. "It's a staffing and a cost issue."

Rosoff agreed that Firefox and other second-tier browsers might benefit from Microsoft's IE distribution policies, but he noted that the vast majority of consumers are far less likely to download a browser than the typical Firefox early adopter.

"From a consumer standpoint, I think evaluating other browsers makes sense," Rosoff said. "And Microsoft is going to face more and more users who are on dual platforms, who won't see any reason to upgrade once they see that Firefox offers the pop-up blocker and other features they'd have to pay for in IE. But most consumers don't download anything if they can avoid it."


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1 posted on 09/23/2004 5:27:15 PM PDT by NCjim
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To: rdb3

I hope that this backfires on them...


2 posted on 09/23/2004 5:27:58 PM PDT by NCjim
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To: NCjim

Firefox is better. Download it at no charge, from mozilla.org .


3 posted on 09/23/2004 5:28:01 PM PDT by ikka
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To: NCjim

XP SP2 is a friggin joke....


go to Mozilla or Netscape if you have too


4 posted on 09/23/2004 5:29:15 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Free Republic - Only as "free" as those that post on it want it to be!!!)
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To: ikka

I got Firefox but also use Netscape 7.2. Mozilla browser just like Firefox and for me has a few more benefits that I like and use.


5 posted on 09/23/2004 5:30:30 PM PDT by pctech
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To: NCjim

Given that XP is a safer OS, generally, than previous versions of Windows... I don't blame Microsoft for wanting users to upgrade. I certainly don't mind it. However, I will not use any of the software bundled with Windows. I enjoy my Firefox, thank you very much.


6 posted on 09/23/2004 5:30:44 PM PDT by Terpfen (Wanted: Laura Ingraham's leopard miniskirt picture. Links welcomed!)
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To: NCjim

Firefox rules.


7 posted on 09/23/2004 5:31:03 PM PDT by Angry Enough
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To: Angry Enough

mozilla firefox.....correct.....much better


8 posted on 09/23/2004 5:33:02 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: NCjim

Another reason to use Mozilla as your browser.


9 posted on 09/23/2004 5:33:36 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Angry Enough

firefox, then tell bill no Ie


10 posted on 09/23/2004 5:33:59 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: fooman

LOL. Excellent advice.


11 posted on 09/23/2004 5:34:58 PM PDT by Angry Enough
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To: NCjim
Here's the continuing push to get people into XP because the license for XP can be used to force people to "rent" software, rather than buy it.

MS realizes that their old business model counted on people upgrading to improved stuff. Well, theres very little "improvement" that anyone can think up. So they have to change their business model to "rent" software rather than sell it. Otherwise they go TO.

12 posted on 09/23/2004 5:36:04 PM PDT by narby (Kerry - The great whiner)
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To: MikeinIraq
I have not ugraded to SP2.. I loaded the last Beta of SP2 to my main computer. It crashed and would not run at all. I ended up reformating the hard drive and installing XP and all software from scratch.

I will not put SP2 on any of my computers.

ONe of my clients defied my reccomendation not to upgrate to SP2. SP2 was installed and the monitor went to 600 by 480 and 16 colors. Teh only way to get back to full color and regular resolution was to uninstall SP2.

None of my clients have upgraded to SP2. WE can't aford the crashed computers that SP2 produces. Our experience is that about 1 in 10 computers will not work right if upgraded to SP2.

My Clients can't aford to upgrade to SP2. I have told them all to not upgrade and go to Foxfire. That is what I have done.

13 posted on 09/23/2004 5:37:20 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: NCjim
Google rumoured to be planning Internet Explorer rival

Google could be planning to launch a web browser to challenge the dominance of Microsoft's Internet Explorer, according to widespread industry speculation.

Industry sources say that the internet company, best known for its Google search engine product, is working on the creation of a number of new web tools and has poached former Microsoft staff to help with development.

The internet company, which recently launched a partial IPO, has launched Gmail and bought blogging firm Blogger, showing it is inclined to create or buy its own web tools rather than rely on those already out there.

A story in the New York Post sparked the rumours about the possible development of a new web browser, which Google has declined to comment on.

However, analysts believe the move is highly likely. James Governor, a principal analyst at Red Monk, has said he would be surprised if Google was not working on an open source browser technology likely to be based on Mozilla like Netscape before it.

The talk is supported by recent hires at Google. Four people have recently been recruited from Microsoft to work at Google, one of which is understood to be Adam Bosworth, who was instrumental in the early development of Internet Explorer.

Internet Explorer came from behind in the late 1990s to usurp internet browser pioneer Netscape, which was once the market leader but is now used by few web users.

Joe Beda, who was previously on the team working on Longhorn -- the next version of Microsoft's operating system -- was also recently taken on by Google.

The spectre of a strong rival comes at a bad time for Microsoft's web browser, which is currently being plagued by security problems.

Firefox, an alternative browser owned by Mozilla, is proving an increasingly popular alternative to Explorer. Mozilla emerged from what was AOL's work on Netscape

Source

14 posted on 09/23/2004 5:37:32 PM PDT by bikepacker67 (Sandy wasn't stuffing his socks, he was stuffing A sock.)
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To: Common Tator

yeah

I work for CENTCOM and we havent gone to SP2 and we have several thousand workstations on our network....what does tha tell you....


15 posted on 09/23/2004 5:39:39 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Free Republic - Only as "free" as those that post on it want it to be!!!)
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To: NCjim

This is written so bass-ackwards. They no longer want to train staff and write code for systems that are ten years old. Well, they aren't releasing any upgrades for DOS users either. Anyone blame them for that?

They want to create new products, they are not required to continue to drag along everyone who for whatever reason are clinging to outdated software.


16 posted on 09/23/2004 5:40:34 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (John Kerry... Almost as presidential as Jane Fonda.)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Dunno about you guys but still clicking along on the kids computer (main computer actually survived Ivan at NAS Pensacola) it's an AMD Athlon 2600 with XP Pro AND SP2, and this thing has YET to crash on me *knock on computer desk*


17 posted on 09/23/2004 5:43:34 PM PDT by Severa (I can't take this stress anymore...quick, get me a marker to sniff....)
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To: NCjim

Want a secure computer?- Buy a Mac!


18 posted on 09/23/2004 5:45:12 PM PDT by Wacka
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To: MikeinIraq; Common Tator

Aprrox. 15% of those users attempting to upgrade to SP/2 are experiencing problems. These vary in degree. The one(s) that I became aware of (which is why I've not upgraded) have experienced no problems in download/install. But when they restart PC? It doesn't...


19 posted on 09/23/2004 5:45:38 PM PDT by donozark (I fought at the Battle of Kimchi Ridge. The gas...the gas...it was HORRIBLE!)
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To: NCjim
Microsoft may be turning the lemons of its browser's security reputation into the lemonade of a powerful upgrade selling point.

LOL! That's one way of putting it.

Another way of putting it is that they're slitting their own throat!

I predict a whole land-rush of new Linux users within a month. (I prefer Slackware, but Redhat, Debian, and Mandrake are popular names that are more attuned to the newbie. Welcome to the wonderful world of smooth-sailing Linux!)

20 posted on 09/23/2004 5:45:57 PM PDT by Siegfried (This tag is absolutely accurate, but I can't vouch for it's authenticity.)
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