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Are You Ready to Serve? [Viacom's MTV Pushes Idea Draft Will Return - Collaborating w/Kerry Camp?]
http://www.rockthevote.com/rtv_draft.php ^

Posted on 09/22/2004 3:36:35 PM PDT by Diago

A NEW MILITARY DRAFT?  
 

It's on everyone's lips. And it directly affects YOU.

There's no question about it: the United States military is being stretched thin. Our Armed Forces are not only on active duty in Iraq and Afghanistan, but also in some areas of the former Soviet Union, South Korea and Europe.

At a hearing of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee last week about post-occupation Iraq, Senator Chuck Hagel (R-NE) thrust the issue of reinstituting a military draft right into the public debate. "There's not an American ... that doesn't understand what we are engaged in today and what the prospects are for the future. Why shouldn't we ask all of our citizens to bear some responsibility and pay some price?" The Senator went further and argued that restoring compulsory military service would force "our citizens to understand the intensity and depth of challenges we face."

The Nebraska Republican added, "those who are serving today and dying today are the middle class and lower middle class." The draft, he argues, would spread the responsibility of military service in Iraq equally among all Americans.

Senator Hagel's remarks come on the heels of statements by both the U.S. General in charge of American forces in Iraq, General John Abizaid, as well as Senator John McCain (R-AZ), who are insisting that the United States needs more soldiers to help with the situation in Iraq.

These leaders are not the only ones talking about the looming personnel crisis in our military. Options that don't include a draft have also been presented by other members of Congress, including a proposal by Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-ME) to move forces that are currently stationed in Europe to Iraq.

The push to reinstate the draft is not a one party issue. It has support from both Republicans and Democrats alike. Congressman Charles Rangel (D-NY), a prominent African American leader, has been a long time supporter of reinstating a draft. "As a veteran, I strongly believe that fighting for our country must be fairly shared by all racial and economic groups. Nobody wants to go to war, but the burden of service cannot fall only on volunteers who, no matter how patriotic, are attracted to the military for financial reasons."

Why all of the sudden is there interest by politicians in the draft?

These recent statements stem from a growing belief that the U.S. government's original plan to scale back our military presence in Iraq by this summer will be stalled by the continuing difficulties there. Despite the President's promised June 30 th deadline to give back control of Iraq's government to the Iraqis under the United Nations, it's not clear under the current state of affairs when our military role there will begin to wind down even if we hand over power on time.

Why all of the sudden, should YOU be interested in the draft?

You are the generation of Americans that would be drafted into military duty, not the politicians talking about it. And so we ask you. Do you think the draft is FAIR? Our country was a different place in the 1970's, when the last draft occurred. We have new factors to consider in 2004:

  • In 2004, women serve in the military--many have died in Iraq. Back in the day, women were not drafted. Should women be drafted today?
  • In 2004, its "don't ask, don't tell." The military's policy towards homosexuals in the military prevents them from serving openly. Should the military discharge draftees who indicate their sexual orientation when asked to serve?
  • In 2004, nearly two-thirds of high school graduates are enrolling in college. During the last draft, this number was lower and college students could defer the draft in order to finish school. With more draft eligible people attending college, should the United States continue that policy?

Some things to think about.

This issue potentially affects your life. So, if you care about you, you should be aware that this debate is taking place in Washington right now. It's also taking place among your candidates for elected office. Be part of the discussion. After all, if you don't stick up for your opinions, who else will?

Take our PollRock the Vote.

 


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: draft; fearmongering; medialies; mtv; napalminthemorning; wot
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To: Diago

"Collaborating???"

Oh, BTW, MTV clever to cite only Repubs. Hagel is ignorant, and was reacting to the press recycling the disinformation from the Dem proponents of the draft bill.


21 posted on 09/22/2004 3:48:29 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: All

That is almost as bad as the radio ad that is running that says "Black voters, don't let Bush' slick ass con you"
Um...riiiight.


22 posted on 09/22/2004 3:48:52 PM PDT by EvilRightWingRepublican
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To: knitmom

Don't wait for someone else to do it, take initiative and get it done. Welcome aboard!


23 posted on 09/22/2004 3:49:07 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: So Cal Rocket
...so we have to vote out all the Democrats".

Ther Rock the Vote web site has quotes from Hagel and McCain in the first few paragraphs. Interesting.

24 posted on 09/22/2004 3:50:03 PM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: Diago

Of course Kerry says he doesn't need the draft. He has no intention of fighting terrorism.


25 posted on 09/22/2004 3:50:53 PM PDT by aomagrat (Where arms are not to be carried, it is well to carry arms.")
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To: Diago

Let us connect the dots:
MTV is owned by Viacom ...
Viacom also owns See-BS ...
See-BS is a patsy for the DemocRATS...
It it walks like at duck...


26 posted on 09/22/2004 3:50:53 PM PDT by AZhardliner
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To: Diago
Dems to revive draft demand
Rep. Rangel and Sen. Hollings see new mood on Iraq
By Alexander BoltonKey Democrats in the House and Senate will renew calls for the military draft as part of a critical barrage they are preparing to launch against President Bush over the length of troop deployments and the heavy reliance on reservists in Iraq.
Military experts outside Congress say there is a political advantage to be gained by Democrats who want to make the president squirm at a time a growing frustration among military families and other Americans over the occupation.

http://www.hillnews.com/news/100703/draft.aspx

27 posted on 09/22/2004 3:52:14 PM PDT by Taxbilly
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To: All

I didn't see an option on their poll for:

"Hey MTV, stick it up your goat azz you leftist lying tools!"


28 posted on 09/22/2004 3:56:00 PM PDT by EvilRightWingRepublican
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To: Diago

as much as i hate to admit it...i do sometimes watch real world and some of the other garbage on MTV. the ads in between shows and the entire choose or lose specials are so overwhelmingly pro-kerry and anti-bush, it makes me sick to think that there is a whole generation (mine, im 25) that considers MTV and like sources to be accurate. these kids honestly think that MTV is giving them the "real story" that they cant get anywhere else, its no wonder that MTV is trying so hard to get these very same kids to vote.


29 posted on 09/22/2004 3:56:05 PM PDT by MaxPower54 (VOTE FOR KERRY, OR YOU'LL GET DRAFTED!!!!!!)
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To: Diago

It's not just the draft. Check the title and the text of
HR 163. It's National Service.

Ask Kerry & Edwards, who pretend to oppose the Draft, if
they also oppose National Service.
_____________________

Standard summary #4F:

Yes there are draft proposals, almost all Democrat,
such as HR 163, which is entirely Dem.

They have NOTHING to do with military manpower requirements.

As intended-to-fail proposals, they are straw men set up
so that Kerry+Edwards can promise to oppose them (even
though they probably support them - see below). When do
you need to worry about what Kerry's plans are on an
issue? When he takes a position, any position.

Bush already opposes draft proposals, but don't expect
the legacy media to tell you this. They also won't pass
either the House or the Senate, but Bush wouldn't sign
them if they did.

As serious proposals, "draft" revival proposals have
everything to do with Universal National Service -
stealing two years from every life, then 3, then 4,
and why stop there ...

And National Service has nothing to do with service.
It has everything to do with indoctrination of the slaves.
Which means that if the "progressives" ever get control
again, kiss your liberty goodbye.

From HR 163: "...or a period of civilian service in
furtherance of the national defense and homeland
security, and for other purposes."

"other purposes"

The Democrats would love to bring back slavery.
Egalitarian slavery, but slavery all the same
(except for their own kids, of course).


30 posted on 09/22/2004 3:56:06 PM PDT by Boundless
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To: Diago

the Dims are pushing this idea because they know they're
constituents are moronic enough to buy it. For proof:
Consensual shooting results in arrest
The New Haven Register ^ | 07/03/2004 | William Kaempffer


Posted on 07/03/2004 10:25:20 AM CDT by KosmicKitty


NEW HAVEN — A teenager has been arrested as the alleged gunman in a city man’s scheme to avoid being drafted by having himself shot in the leg.

Police arrested Alex Lowery, 17, whose last known address was 140 Hallock Ave., late Thursday on a warrant charging him with first-degree assault and weapons counts in connection with a June 24 shooting in the Hill.


31 posted on 09/22/2004 3:56:08 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the piece:excuses are like forged Bush guard memos;everybody's got one.)
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To: Diago
Withdrawing from S.Korea etc. No draft needed.

There's plenty willing to volunteer, what draft fantasy are they trying to stir now?

32 posted on 09/22/2004 3:56:31 PM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood (Only place Kerry has to go now is to the glue factory.)
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To: Diago

Yes, I'm ready.


33 posted on 09/22/2004 3:56:38 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Ask not what you can do for your country, ask the country what it will do for you!)
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To: Diago

Wow...some frightening comments on their site. My personal favorite:

Does anyone know the reason why we're at war?

-Joe, 17
Austin, TX


34 posted on 09/22/2004 3:56:45 PM PDT by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength)
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To: Taxbilly
Michelle Malkin had a brief story about this.... just go to:

www.military.com for the answer

35 posted on 09/22/2004 3:58:32 PM PDT by BurbankErnie (I am an oxymoron - a California Republican)
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To: TxPhysicist
Just my input...

And very impressive! You've got me beat, I am in the process of swaying my ex boyfriend to vote for President Bush.

He sent me an email the day after the Rather fraud hit- piece, saying..."well, I don't really like Kerry, but I watched 60 Minutes, and Bush ducked his service in the guard....they're both bad...yadda, yadda."

I am slowly but surely getting him to come around. Got an email from him today saying he's starting to see Kerry for what he is, and that Dan Rather is an idiot.

36 posted on 09/22/2004 3:58:36 PM PDT by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W."Billy" Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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To: sam_whiskey; All

I just e-mailed them with a polite e-mail pointing out how Charlie Rangel, Democrat is the one that submitted the draft bill. I also pointed out how Don Rumsfield opposed it.

WE ALL NEED TO DO THIS.


37 posted on 09/22/2004 4:01:50 PM PDT by Tempest (Don't blame me, I'm voting for Bush.)
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To: Tempest

Please send us a link, thanks!


38 posted on 09/22/2004 4:05:35 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (We will always remember.We will always be proud.We will always be prepared, so we may always be free)
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To: Tempest

You and me both


39 posted on 09/22/2004 4:05:41 PM PDT by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength)
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To: Indy Pendance; Diago; sam_whiskey; MetalHeadConservative35; sarasotarepublican; lionstar; ...

The motivation is so transparent its laughable. We all know a military full of unwilling conscripts would be a paralyzed military. Rangel, Hagel and co. are rubbing their hands and licking their lips in anticipation of a new era of "Hell no, We won't go!" marches and riots.


40 posted on 09/22/2004 4:06:12 PM PDT by sinanju
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