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To: Askel5

"=== What in the history of the moslems leads you to believe that they are above it?

Well, for starters, I would look at RECENT history. The FSB... that's for starters, I guess."

For non-starters really. You dodged the question. In the recent history of the moslems, since, say, 1948, there are plenty of examples of moslems who aren't above killing children. There are more examples if you don't want to be tangled up in the recent.


414 posted on 09/23/2004 12:47:34 AM PDT by Fatalis
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To: Fatalis

It's interesting you should mention "since 1948." When you read the following moral polution that was interjected into the Arab world (just as it was interjected into Russia, China, Central and South America, South Africa, etc.), suddenly Middle East terrorism post 1948 comes as no surprise:

Excerpt from "We Are The Next Target," 1994

When Karl Marx wrote his book, A World Without Jews, he permanently set the tone for Communist anti-Semitism. He called for "the emancipation of mankind from Judaism" and for the end of all religious faith.[59] V. I. Lenin applied this principle against the Jewish longing for Israel in 1903, declaring that "this Zionist idea is absolutely false and essentially reactionary."[60]

The Communist drive to abolish Judaism took on a special urgency after World War I, when Jewish settlement in Palestine began interfering with Communist plans for a socialist, pan-Arab government. Over the next few decades, the Communists instigated Arab riots against Jews and organized anti-Zionist movements.[61] These tactics failed, and the nation of Israel was reborn in 1948.

But in 1964 the Soviet KGB made a decision to escalate wars of national liberation around the world. Its spending on terrorism grew ten-fold, and training centers were set up throughout the Communist Bloc. In less than two years, Cuba hosted the Tricontinental Conference--a meeting of 513 representatives from 83 terrorist groups. The Cuban Communist regime thus became a coordinating center for this growing international terrorist network.[62]

Israel was vaulted to the top of the list of target countries. The pro-Soviet dictator of Egypt, Gamel Abdel Nasser, launched a new revolutionary group in 1964--the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO).[63] Declaring the palestinian Arabs an "oppressed class" who needed to be "liberated" from Israeli rule, the PLO announced that it would destroy the nation of Israel altogether and replace it with a socialist government of Palestine.


417 posted on 09/23/2004 12:56:30 AM PDT by GIJoel
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To: Fatalis

I found that a convenient omission as well...


418 posted on 09/23/2004 12:58:24 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: Fatalis
In the recent history of the moslems, since, say, 1948,

Whoa partner ... 1948?

Are you sure you want to go there? I'm happy to but I don't think you're going to like it for two reasons:

(1) I'm going to lay out for you some of the history of the consciousness-raising that was a concerted effort (contest, in a way, if you figure in the Chicoms) of the Soviets who -- like their Corsican brother Mao -- were most interested in forming a "radical arc of Islam" which would serve to embroil the US, fudge our heretofore happy and most-profitable association with the Arabs and lever into position the collectivization of the ME soviet's economic and security systems.

(Having just finished doing the dirty work for the Russians -- for whom we rolled out a red carpet, mined on our own side, for good measure in Pristina -- where the Leninist objective of collectivized security/economy in Europe was concerned, we're now free to make good on our September 2000 promises to "re-organize" Afghanistan and serve as useful idiots in the confecting of a ME soviet on the same model as the EU.)

(2) You're going to open a can of worms best left closed on this board where the terrorist operations of non-Muslim religious fanatics are concerned.

After all, it would be wrong, would it not, to arbitrarily begin in 1948 just as all the hard work of decades past where political murder was concerned finally paid off ... landing the Soviet and Fascist-sponsored terrorists the cattle prod with which they would electrify the Muslim world, invoke perpetual revolution and embroil Uncle Sam with the brunt of Big Brother duties for a recalcitrant charge who has proven more than once he doesn't really need Big Brother's help (will box his ears, even, when he gets in the way) and picking his pocket or his brain on behalf of Sam's mortal enemies.

424 posted on 09/23/2004 1:15:35 AM PDT by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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