"...criminy... this forged stuff from the DNC just gets worse and worse..."
Posted on 09/21/2004 10:23:43 AM PDT by notkerry
Appearing in Kerry campaign literature on April 27, 2004, under the headline "Key Unanswered Questions on Bush's Record in National Guard" was the reference to "verbal orders" to recommend Bush's suspension from flying because he missed a physical - issued by Bush's commander, Lt. Col. Jerry Killian on Aug. 1, 1972.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...
Wow! I've just sent that link around to my buds...
So, what do we think the chain is here ? Burkett supposedly gets the docs from someone at a livestock show(yeah, right) in March. The Kerry people know about it in April. Do we think Burkett sent them over or did the Kerry campaign get them from this so-called Lucy Ramirez (yeah, right)?
The Kerry people have the National Guard ad up the day after the first 60 Minutes II broadcast. How long have they known about these docs and who made the decision to use them in a press release ?Lockhart wasn't part of the team in April, was he ?
"I spent some time on the phone with the Kerry campaign seniors yesterday," Burkett wrote on Aug. 21 in an e-mail letter circulated to a list of about 600 Texas Democrats.
Cleland said in a telephone interview that Burkett called him "a couple of weeks ago," as he was out campaigning for Kerry...
I couldn't swear to it whether he used the term documents or information," Cleland said. "It was some kind of stuff, some kind of information he wanted to get to the campaign, or something, regarding Bush's National Guard service. I referred him up to somebody in the campaign."
Houston Chronicle
...on Saturday, Sept. 4, Lockhart said he got a call from Mapes, a CBS producer who told him she was working on a piece about Bush's National Guard service that would air the following Wednesday.... "She said there was someone helpful on the story who had been trying to reach the campaign and really wanted to talk to me," Lockhart recalled. Mapes did not tell him that Burkett had been in the National Guard.
LA Times
But 60 Minutes has obtained a number of documents we are told were taken from Col. Killian's personal file. Among them, a never-before-seen memorandum from May 1972, where Killian writes that Lt. Bush called him to talk about "how he can get out of coming to drill from now through November."
Lt. Bush tells his commander "he is working on a campaign in Alabama…. and may not have time to take his physical." Killian adds that he thinks Lt. Bush has gone over his head, and is "talking to someone upstairs."
Col. Killian died in 1984. 60 Minutes consulted a handwriting analyst and document expert who believes the material is authentic. September 8, 2004,
CBS 60 Minutes,
"The documentation shows that the president was not being truthful," Harkin said. "The president lied to the American people in the Oval Office when he spoke with Tim Russert. That's why this is news. It goes to the character of George W. Bush." Sen. Harkin, September 9, 2004
The Iowa Channel
The challenge for Kerry is to talk about issues that matter to voters today - health care, education, jobs and the war - while his allies at the Democratic National Committee do the dirty work. The DNC's goal: convince voters that Bush string-pulling in the Texas Air National Guard is part of a pattern of elitism, lies and lack of credibility that stretches to the White House.
"Two things: One, he didn't tell the truth and that's not going to go away," said Howard Wolfson, a strategist dispatched to the DNC by Kerry's campaign to go negative on Bush. "Second, it begins to paint a picture of a very fortunate son who uses connections and pulls strings for special favors. That is a theme running through the man's life."
The DNC has nicknamed its effort "Operation Fortunate Son" after a Creedence Clearwater Revival anti-war anthem from the 1960s. The song speaks of the privileged few, "born silver spoon in hand," who send others to war. September 9, 2004
Seattle Post Intelligencer
Kerry adviser Joe Lockhart said he had spoken to Burkett at the request of Mary Mapes, producer for the story. But Lockhart said he did not recall speaking about the National Guard to Burkett, and ended the call after taking a few minutes of campaign advice. September 21, 2004
MSNBC
Some additional dates as the noose tightens.
That's why an inhouse investigation at CBS will never answer how the deep the corruption goes within the demoncRAT party.
I remember a post in the welter of this business unraveling in which it was asserted that there was no such relevant regulation. Was this inaccurate? If accurate it would certainly tie the two together.
very interesting!!! could this be why pres Bush did not fly on the way to that carrier. he was in an air force plane???
Folks, the LEGITIMATE BUSH DOCUMENTS infact DO give the August 1972 date. So this is DEBUNKED in my opinion, or do I have something wrong? Check out the links posted elsewhere in this thread.
Sorry for the there...it's they're. Sorry for the italics, bad html training.
February 12 is the same day Drum reported on a two hour phone interview with Burkett, his related his charges about Bush. So did the DNC know about it then? or not?
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Stunning. I would say Checkmate! BTT
Yea.. but the legitimate doc's don't quote the forgeries!
Oh oh.
Err so what? That is verbatim from the real documents the Whitehouse released. The document is dated 29 Sep 1972.
NEWSMAKER QUOTE OF THE DAY Imus talks to CBS' Andy Rooney about Dan Rather admitting documents questioning President Bush's national guard service were fake.
Rooney: "I think there is some evidence that there must have been documents that approximated those that they did get."
Imus: "What evidence do we have of that?"
Rooney: "Interesting aspect of this story is that it is so complex. There was a feeling around for a while that this was a Republican plan. I talked to a real expert on this and they knew right away that these documents had been altered or were fraudulent. I don't know why. I mean they should have gone to somebody like that. The evidence that there is nothing true about what's in them doesn't exist...Somebody had something to start with when they started adding those things, typing them, retyping them... I can't imagine who would sit down, I mean these documents are long. Imagine someone sitting down to duplicate those documents on a computer that took days to retype them."
NEWSMAKER QUOTE OF THE DAY #2
Imus: "Until they can produce some evidence, shut up about what you think...you sound like a crazy person saying the 'information contained in fraudulent documents is accurate'. That's crazy. Either come up with the original documents or shut up."
That is because no such written orders of 01 Aug 72 ever existed.
The April 27 Kerry campaign press release cites Killian's "verbal orders" for suspension as a "Fact":
"FACT: The order suspending Bush from flight duty stated: 'Verbal orders of the Comdr on 1 Aug 72 suspending 1STLT George W. Bush from flying status are confirmed Reason for Suspension: Failure to accomplish annual medical examination. Off will comply with para 2-10, AFM 35-13. Authority: Para 2-29m, AFM 35-13. (Aeronautical Orders, Number 87, 29 September 1972)'" [END OF KERRY RELEASE EXCERPT]
We need a copy of this press release to post on a main thread. If it is correct we have another Buckhead award to give.
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