Eurabia (A FrontPage Magazine conversation with Bat Ye'or)

FrontPage Magazine ^ | September 21, 2004 | Jamie Glazov

[quidnunc]

Frontpage Interview's guest today is Bat Ye'or, the world's foremost authority on dhimmitude.

Her latest study is Islam and Dhimmitude. Where Civilizations Collide. Her forthcoming book, Eurabia: The Euro-Arab Axis, will be published in January 2005.

FP: Bat Ye'or, welcome to Frontpage Interview.

Bat Ye'or: Thanks for inviting me to your prestigious magazine.

FP: First things first, can you explain the term "Eurabia" to our readers?

Bat Ye'or: Eurabia represents a geo-political reality envisaged in 1973 through a system of informal alliances between, on the one hand, the nine countries of the European Community (EC)which, enlarged, became the European Union (EU) in 1992 and on the other hand, the Mediterranean Arab countries. The alliances and agreements were elaborated at the top political level of each EC country with the representative of the European Commission, and their Arab homologues with the Arab League's delegate. This system was synchronised under the roof of an association called the Euro-Arab Dialogue (EAD) created in July 1974 in Paris. A working body composed of committees and always presided jointly by a European and an Arab delegate planned the agendas, and organized and monitored the application of the decisions.

The field of Euro-Arab collaboration covered every domain: from economy and policy to immigration. In foreign policy, it backed anti-Americanism, anti-Zionism and Israel's delegitimization; the promotion of the PLO and Arafat; a Euro-Arab associative diplomacy in international forums; and NGO collaboration. In domestic policy, the EAD established a close cooperation between the Arab and European media television, radio, journalists, publishing houses, academia, cultural centers, school textbooks, student and youth associations, tourism. Church interfaith dialogues were determinant in the development of this policy. Eurabia is therefore this strong Euro-Arab network of associations — a comprehensive symbiosis with cooperation and partnership on policy, economy, demography and culture.

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[SJackson]

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[DTA]

a must read !!!

[DTA]

a must read !!!

[Bombardier]

Bat Ye'Or is way too intelligent for Europe. She ought to just relocate to the US....she might also find a somewhat more receptive audience here. The Europeans have already drunk the mohammedan Kool-Aid, so, bluntly, they're not worth saving from their own foolishness.

[Tolik]

How Europe sold itself out for oil and a mirage of security.

Nailed It!
Moral Clarity BUMP !

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[Tolik]

Previous discussions of Bat Ye'or articles: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=batyeor

[Tolik]

A face of the enemy?

Bat Ye'or:

France and the rest of Western Europe cannot change their policy anymore. Their future is Eurabia. Period. I don't see how they can reverse the movement they set in motion thirty years ago. Nor do Eurabians want to modify this policy. It is a project that was conceived, planned and pursued consistently through immigration policy, propaganda, church support, economic associations and aid, cultural, media and academic collaboration. Generations grew up within this political framework; they were educated and conditioned to support it and go along with it. This is the source of the strong anti-American feeling in Europe and of the paranoiac obsession with Israel, two elements that form the cornerstone of Eurabia. The new French orientation toward Europe indicates that France will work within Europe, and particularly with the new Eastern member states of the European Union, to convince them to forgo their Atlanticist vision and reorient their alliances toward the Arab Muslim world.

 

[Valin]

Bump for later.

[DTA]

>>>>>>Bat Ye'Or is way too intelligent for Europe. She ought to just relocate to the US....she might also find a somewhat more receptive audience here<<<<<

It depends, U.S. is heavilly affected already. Department of State is already irradiated, as well as Harvard University.

Kennedy School of Government disseminates this it further to new generation.

The purpoose of BOSNIA GENOCIDE hoax in the Nineties was to expose the mainstream public to this agenda.

[DTA]

>>>>>A face of the enemy?<<<<<

The enemy has many faces. The biggest problem are supporters in the U.S. And I am NOT talking about people of Muslim faith, poor immigrants in your neighborhood store.

I am talking about the All-American elite in the corridors of power, WASP and Jewish alike, who support radical islamisam diplomatically, militarily and through the media.

They are hard to spot to the untrained eye because of their All-American appearance. Don't forget that for good number of average Americans, geography, history and foreign relations are arcane subjects.

Quick test? Show me the person who spit the islamonazi lies about Bosnia and Kosovo and I will show you the enemy within.

[DTA]

Please read Bat Ye'or interview and share with Serbs in Kosovo. This is an explanation why "Europe" is blind to the destruction of European heritage in Kosovo and why "Europe" is deaf to hear the cries for help of Serbs who have the courage to live in Kosovo today.

Kosovo today is the preview of comming attraction for the rest of Europe.

Bat Ye'or sees that future clearly.

[BayouCoyote]

Quick test? Show me the person who spit the islamonazi lies about Bosnia and Kosovo and I will show you the enemy within.


Kool aid drinkers who refuse to believe they have been duped.

[Ashamed Canadian]

Thank God some other smart people see it. (My heritage is from that area of the world.)

[NYer]

The Euro-Arab Palestinian cult symbolized the redemption of Christianity and Islam and their reconciliation on the ashes of Israel, the work of Satan -- a belief propagated by the media's continuous demonization of Israel, and Palestinian victimization. This cult brings together neo-Nazis, Judeophobes, anti-Americans, communists and jihadists. It is a revival of Nazi anti-Jewish and anti-Christian trends, particularly in its hatred of Christian Bible believers and America, the country that was determinant in the defeat of Nazism and Communism.

Incendiary sermons are being preached to the Muslims in the pope’s diocese. And this is no isolated case – the mosques are in the hands of Islamic radicals.
In Rome’s Main Mosque, One Imam Is Calling for Jihad

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[happygrl]

Church interfaith dialogues were determinant in the development of this policy......Eurabia is also based on the vision of Christian-Muslim reconciliation and has been strongly advocated by religious Christian bodies.

This will be the next great split in Christendom, when, to meet the aims of "reconciliation", principles of faith will be defined downward to effect ecumenicism.

There will be a push for a "one-world" religion, and hostility to those who cling to their traditional faith. The targets will be Jews and Christians who will not compromise.

[happygrl]

You often refer to a Euro-Arab Palestinian cult. What do you mean by it?

Bat Ye'or: It means precisely this Palestinian centrality that's promoted in Europe as a key to world peace. However, the Euro-Arab Palestinian cult goes much deeper than a political tool used for a Euro-Arab Partnership policy against America and Israel. It is linked to theological currents of Judeophobia and a replacement theology based on the Palestinization of the Bible and the rejection of its Jewish roots in order to delegitimize Israel's history and rights on its land. The Euro-Arab Palestinian cult symbolized the redemption of Christianity and Islam and their reconciliation on the ashes of Israel, the work of Satan -- a belief propagated by the media's continuous demonization of Israel, and Palestinian victimization. This cult brings together neo-Nazis, Judeophobes, anti-Americans, communists and jihadists. It is a revival of Nazi anti-Jewish and anti-Christian trends, particularly in its hatred of Christian Bible believers and America, the country that was determinant in the defeat of Nazism and Communism. In the 1930-40s, the Nazis had strong links with Palestinians, and those sympathies and alliances continued throughout the years after World War II, thriving in the Euro-Arab Palestinian cult that submerged Western Europe under the umbrella of the gigantic Euro-Arab Dialogue apparatus.

Yup.

See what I mean?

[Jaded]

What church? In Europe? For the most part they are historical buildings being housed by liberals. Mmmm, make that clueless, secular liberals.

[MegaSilver]

The Euro-Arab Palestinian cult symbolized the redemption of Christianity and Islam and their reconciliation on the ashes of Israel, the work of Satan -- a belief propagated by the media's continuous demonization of Israel, and Palestinian victimization. This cult brings together neo-Nazis, Judeophobes, anti-Americans, communists and jihadists. It is a revival of Nazi anti-Jewish and anti-Christian trends, particularly in its hatred of Christian Bible believers and America, the country that was determinant in the defeat of Nazism and Communism.

She's a little bit lax on the facts here. Neo-fascism is hardly the modernist, pagan movement that Naziism was. It is rather fed by a growing fear: specifically, of replacement of an ageing European Christian population with Muslims. (Of course, that fear is not unfounded in the least.) Modern skinheads in Europe are hardly friendly toward Islam, unlike their early 20th century counterparts.

[MegaSilver]

Please read Bat Ye'or interview and share with Serbs in Kosovo. This is an explanation why "Europe" is blind to the destruction of European heritage in Kosovo and why "Europe" is deaf to hear the cries for help of Serbs who have the courage to live in Kosovo today.

Europe is not entirely blind; rightward-leaning parties have scored huge victories in Greece, Austria, and Switzerland as of late. In France, the Front National grabbed a cool 18% of the vote in the last presidential election. In Germany, far-right parties are starting to gain seats in a rather unexpected comeback. Some prominent progressive and liberal politicians in the Netherlands are calling for a stop to the Muslim influx. The UK Independence Party is doing rather well. And in Denmark, the extreme-right Denmark People's Party enjoys status as a senior coalition partner in the government. Yet in America, we have one candidate whose party calls for a halt to Muslim immigration (actually, a call for a five-year moritorium on all immigration), and that candidate has been completely ignored by the media and is likely to get a negative-digit percentage of the vote.

It is debatable as to how much of a blessing the success of some of the afforementioned parties is, but let's face it: fighting the Islamic expansion is a mere matter of physical survival. Europeans are realizing, at least more so than Americans and unquestionably more than Canadians, that extremists may soon be the only ones willing to do what is necessary to keep them alive.

Regarding Kosovo, do keep in mind that that was a NATO-driven war courtesy the U.S. and the U.K. (thank you, Bill Clinton and Tony Blair!). Europe didn't see Milosevic as much of a threat and Greece--the third party that would have been most directly effected by the conflict (because of illegal entry on the part of war refugees)--was staunchly opposed to the invasion.