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Eyeing Iran Reactors, Israel Seeks U.S. Bunker Bombs
Reuters ^ | 21 sep 04 | Dan Williams

Posted on 09/21/2004 3:17:51 AM PDT by F14 Pilot

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - The United States plans to sell Israel $139 million worth of air-launched bombs, including 500 "bunker busters" able to penetrate Iran's underground nuclear facilities, Israeli security sources said on Tuesday.

The Haaretz newspaper quoted a Pentagon report as saying the planned procurement sought "to maintain Israel's qualitative advantage and advance U.S. strategic and tactical interests."

The U.S. embassy in Israel had no comment, referring queries to Washington. Israel's Defense Ministry also declined comment.

But a senior Israeli security source who confirmed the Haaretz story told Reuters: "This is not the sort of ordnance needed for the Palestinian front. Bunker busters could serve Israel against Iran, or possibly Syria."

Haaretz quoted Israeli government sources as saying the sale, including 4,500 other guided munitions, was not expected to go through until after the U.S. elections in November. Earlier this month, Haaretz said Israel sought to obtain the U.S.-made, one-ton "bunker buster" bombs for a possible future strike against arch-foe Iran's atomic development program, which the Jewish state considers a strategic threat.

Tehran denies hostile designs, saying its nuclear program has peaceful purposes only. This week, it rejected international calls to comply with a U.N. International Atomic Energy Agency demand that it halt all uranium-enrichment activities.

Among the nuclear facilities that Iran has declared are uranium mines near the city of Yazd, and a uranium-enrichment plant in Natanz incorporating large underground buildings that could accommodate thousands of gas centrifuges.

Western diplomats accuse Iran of having several undeclared facilities close to Tehran thought to be related to uranium enrichment, a process the United States and some other countries believe Tehran will use to produce fissile material for weapons.

The exiled Iranian opposition group known as the National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI) says Iran is constructing numerous secret facilities under its Defense Ministry.

DIPLOMACY STILL SEEN AS PREFERABLE

Known by the military designations GBU-27 or GBU-28, "bunker busters" are guided by lasers or satellites and can penetrate up to 30 feet of earth and concrete. Israel may already have some of the bombs for its U.S.-supplied F-15 fighter jets.

As they are part of the weapon set for the F-15, I would assume them to be in place," said Robert Hewson, editor of Jane's Air-Launched Weapons. He said the bombs proved effective in the 1991 Gulf war and 1990s NATO strikes on Serbian forces. Israel, which is widely assumed to be the Middle East's only nuclear-armed nation, wants to stop Iran going atomic, but officials say diplomatic pressure on Tehran is the best method.

Many believe a military strike, especially by Israel, could kill off any chance of a diplomatic resolution or efforts by Iranian opposition groups to achieve internal reform. "I think (military action) should be a last, last, last resort. Unlike Iraq and North Korea, there is at least some chance of bringing about an undermining of the Velayat-e Faqih's authority," former CIA director R. James Woolsey told Reuters this month, referring to Iran's ruling Islamic clerics.

Convinced Saddam Hussein was developing nuclear weapons, Israel bombed Iraq's Osiraq reactor in 1981. While the move drew international censure, eventually many U.S. experts saw it as an important blow to Saddam's strategic weapons capabilities.

"The response of the United States was, unfortunately, negative with respect to Osiraq," Woolsey said. "The Israelis were right and everybody else was wrong, including us, in 1981."

The Osiraq strike did not stop Saddam's quest for the bomb. Instead, Iraq went underground and worked in secret until the program was uncovered by the U.N. nuclear watchdog in 1991.

(Additional reporting by Louis Charbonneau in Vienna)


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: axisofevil; axisofterror; bomb; iaea; iran; israel; miltech; napalminthemorning; nuke; southwestasia; us; wot
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To: F14 Pilot
'FEDEX' them. Guaranteed overnight delivery.
21 posted on 09/21/2004 4:11:21 AM PDT by airborne (God answers all prayers. Sometimes the answer is ,"No".)
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To: F14 Pilot

What ever did happen to Sadaam's Bunker, anyway?


22 posted on 09/21/2004 4:18:57 AM PDT by Solamente
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To: coconutt2000

I would be shocked if that were not the real device of choice for the job. That's what I had in mind earlier in the thread when talking about easy clean-up. They go deep and don't make much of a high dirty cloud at all.

Even our old cratering devices tested in Nevada (several hundred feet depth) didn't make much fallout.


23 posted on 09/21/2004 4:20:11 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: F14 Pilot; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...
Defiant Iran starts uranium conversion 21 September 2004

Defying a key demand set by 35 nations, Iran announced on Tuesday that it has started converting raw uranium into the gas needed for enrichment, a process that can be used to make nuclear weapons.

"Tests are going on successfully" to make uranium hexafluoride gas, the feed stock for enrichment, said Iranian Vice-President Reza Aghazadeh.


Time to put an end to Iran's Nukes.................
24 posted on 09/21/2004 4:34:43 AM PDT by OXENinFLA (WHO MADE THE CBS MEMOS?!?!?)
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To: ThirstyMan

FYI >>> that Nuke plant in Bushehr was made back in 1975 during the Shah's reign. German Siemens company started that in 1975 and halted the project right after 1979 revolution.


25 posted on 09/21/2004 4:34:59 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot
There's another thread on how Israel has just purchased 5,000 "Smart Bombs" from the US government.

No doubt a substantial discount was involved. ; )

Israelis don't do anything half-way, do they?

26 posted on 09/21/2004 4:49:02 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob

I hope we won't see another bloodshed in Iran


27 posted on 09/21/2004 4:59:42 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot

Bang!


28 posted on 09/21/2004 5:14:01 AM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (We're preaching to the choir. Get out and correctly persuade people to vote for Bush !!)
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To: F14 Pilot

If they take out Iran's nuke program for us, why not GIVE them the bombs?


29 posted on 09/21/2004 5:15:35 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: F14 Pilot

Since 1978 when the Iranians took over our embassy and took hostages, the U.S. has been referred to as the great satan and we have been on the receiving end of terrorists attacks from Iran's minions.
I remember all too well the marines in Lebanon (Beirut) and the airliner that was hijacked and flown to Beirut.
Our lack of appreciation for what the Islamists have sought for these three decades plus has only emboldened them.
Preemptive action similar to what the Israelis did to Saddam's nuclear program is past due. For that matter for North Korea as well.
If we give these people enough rope, they will hang us.


30 posted on 09/21/2004 5:26:16 AM PDT by abc1
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Right, here they are if you need them!
Seeing the picture of that turbaned head mullah announcing the Iranian nuclear program is going forward -- but trust us -- we're not producing nuclear weapons, reminds us that the free world cannot afford to trust any of these characters. Oil is dirt cheap in Iran so why do they need nuclear power?

When their recent military parade had missiles capable of carrying nuclear devices and on those missiles were hung anti-American, death to USA slogans, I'd say their concept of telling us the truth isn't worthy of our trust.

I'm going to have to look up a story from my youth, "Ali Babba and the Forty Thieves" to see what that was all about. It's only a vague memory now.

31 posted on 09/21/2004 5:30:15 AM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
If they take out Iran's nuke program for us, why not GIVE them the bombs?

I agree. But we must maintain the appearances. I say, oh, about $1.99 each, would be a fair price.

Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

32 posted on 09/21/2004 5:31:23 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (--Your message could post here--)
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To: F14 Pilot
Thanks, great peice, I have put it up on Christian-news-in-maine.com with a link back here for the full article and comments.

By the way, if you really fly F-14's I would love your opinion on those who claim that the Preisident is not to smart. Seems to me that you have to be pretty sharp to fly at Mach 2

33 posted on 09/21/2004 6:06:57 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: F14 Pilot

Cripes! Why sell them?!?! Lets GIVE them the toys for free and keep 'em coming! Only condition on the gift? They toys muct be USED.


34 posted on 09/21/2004 7:15:00 AM PDT by EUPHORIC (Right? Left? Read Ecclesiastes 10:2 for a definition. The Bible knows all about it!)
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To: Lurking in Kansas

"I agree. But we must maintain the appearances. I say, oh, about $1.99 each, would be a fair price."

If they're buying them with military aid $$, then they are sort of free. (to them.)

I personally think it's money well spent.


35 posted on 09/21/2004 7:34:45 AM PDT by adam_az (Call your State GOP office and volunteer!)
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To: Made in USA

Popular Mechanics is still the best:)


36 posted on 09/21/2004 7:49:22 AM PDT by Mariner
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To: All
Those GBU-28's, our 5,000 pound laser guided bomb, will take out just about anything. We used them at Tora Bora to close up the caves and if we did get Osama then, it was probably a GBU-28 that did it. They also proved effective in Operation Iraqi Freedom taking out several of Saddam's bunkers. If anything was going to be used against an nuclear reactor, it would be these babies.
37 posted on 09/21/2004 7:58:24 AM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Hannity Was Right, FReepers Tend To Eat Their Own)
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To: F14 Pilot

Boom ~ Bump!!


38 posted on 09/21/2004 9:36:41 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: F14 Pilot

Sell them some stealth bombers too.


39 posted on 09/21/2004 9:58:18 AM PDT by Halleck ("I did not have forgery with that memo" - Dan Rather)
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To: Solamente

according to the Discovery Channel, who did a show on this - it wasn't even touched. these conventional bunker busters will not have any effect on modern bunkers.


40 posted on 09/21/2004 10:07:33 AM PDT by oceanview
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