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Kerry Aide Talked to Retired Guard Officer (Lockhart called Burkett, on Mapes' Suggestion!)
Associated Press ^ | September 20, 2004

Posted on 09/20/2004 5:32:23 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War

Posted on Mon, Sep. 20, 2004

Kerry Aide Talked to Retired Guard Officer

Associated Press

NEW YORK - At the behest of CBS, an adviser to John Kerry said he talked to a central figure in the controversy over President Bush's National Guard service shortly before disputed documents were released.

Joe Lockhart denied any connection between the presidential campaign and the papers. Lockhart, the second Kerry ally to confirm contact with retired Texas National Guard officer Bill Burkett, said he made the call at the suggestion of CBS producer Mary Mapes.

"He had some advice on how to deal with the Vietnam issue and the Swift boat" allegations, Lockhart said Monday, referring to GOP-fueled accusations that Kerry exaggerated his Vietnam War record. "He said these guys play tough and we have to put the Vietnam experience into context and have Kerry talk about it more."

Lockhart said he thanked Burkett for his advice after a three to four minute call.

Lockhart said he does not recall talking to Burkett about Bush's Guard records. "It's baseless to say the Kerry campaign had anything to do with this," he said.

CBS News apologized Monday for a "mistake in judgment" in its story questioning Bush's Guard service, claiming it was misled by the source of documents that several experts have dismissed as fakes.

Burkett admitted this weekend to CBS that he lied about obtaining the documents from another former National Guard member, the network said. CBS hasn't been able to conclusively tell how he got them, or even whether they're fakes or not.

Kerry ally Max Cleland, a former Georgia senator, also said he had a brief conversation last month with Burkett, who told him he had information about Bush to counter charges against Kerry's Vietnam War service. Cleland said he gave Burkett's name and phone number to the campaign's research department.

Kerry spokesman David Ginsberg said nobody in the campaign's research department followed up on Burkett's offer of information.

Lockhart said Mapes asked him the weekend before the story broke to call Burkett. "She basically said there's a guy who is being helpful on the story who wants to talk to you," Lockhart said, adding that it was common knowledge that CBS was working on a story raising questions about Bush's Guard service. Mapes told him there were some records "that might move the story forward. She didn't tell me what they said."


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To: dubyaismypresident
In the 90's we saw the biggest rats roaming the streets and halls of DC. When Bush won in 2000 the rats retreated, though they where watching. Hitlary said that she would finish her term as NY Senator. I think she was very serious. The DEMS and MSM wanted Hitlary to run. But she did not wink, knowing in advance that if she ran now, she will be ridiculed. So there is this GRAND possibility that Lucky boy from Clinton era may have fabricated the documents, handed them to BURKETT and the BURKETT to CBS.
541 posted on 09/20/2004 8:35:00 PM PDT by crushelits
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To: All

Ton Shales is on MSNB saying the most stupid things I've heard! Man, what a monkey.


542 posted on 09/20/2004 8:37:14 PM PDT by crushelits
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To: Dont Mention the War
(in Tony Montana accent): "Hello, Democrats. I want you to meet my little friends!"


543 posted on 09/20/2004 8:38:32 PM PDT by Lockbar (Worried about lead poisoning? Then stop eating the paint chips, Dummy!)
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To: RavenATB
I can't believe Burkett was a career military officer...makes me want to puke that someone gave that idiot the oath. Imagine going down in American history in this guy's shoes...former officer, and retired vet who got the national spotlight for being a pathological liar, stupid enough to get caught forging documents to smear the President and for atttempting to defraud the American people.

Just saw a clip of "Baghdad Bob/Dan's" interview with Burkett. That short clip looked to me as well staged in advance! Who would go on television and openly admit he had lied to Blather? "BoB": "We don't believe one syllable coming out of your slimy mouth!!
544 posted on 09/20/2004 8:38:50 PM PDT by danamco
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To: Soul Seeker

Gephardt's turning?
Sorry but Gephardt said this when he was running for Prez.


545 posted on 09/20/2004 8:39:19 PM PDT by crushelits
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To: crushelits
Ton Shales is on MSNB saying the most stupid things I've heard! Man, what a monkey.
This Tom Shales (Washington Compost) is an absolute joke. He thinks it wouldn't be farfetched to find out if Republican behind all of this scandal!!!
546 posted on 09/20/2004 8:41:33 PM PDT by Toidylop
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To: dubyaismypresident

547 posted on 09/20/2004 8:41:48 PM PDT by crushelits
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To: danamco
CBS News needs to be removed from the air and equal time must be given to the President for the Kerry propaganda that this network spewed during the campaign so far.

Is there really that much time left b4 Nov 2? I think about all those Bush-bashing 60 Minutes interviews. Maybe it's time for some pro-Bush book reviews to make up for their sins. It's a start, LOL.

548 posted on 09/20/2004 8:48:26 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Part of the Reagan legacy is to re-elect G.W. Bush))
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To: traviskicks
LOL can someone get the date on when CBS contacted Dan Bartlett (who they tried to blame for not denying them)? They give the Kerry camp (what - a week, 2 weeks, days?) advance notice so they can make videos, already get the issue in the press, smear Bush campaign and coordinate their attack with 'talking points'. That way people would see the dems making these accusations and then.... Lo and behold, something comes out on CBS cooberating what the people just heard on the news from the DNC the night before! Then they think, 'we can trust the Dems, it wasn't just a smear'. What a sham!

OR perhaps the Kerry camp already knew about them much longer in advance...


I would really like to hear Bernard Goldberg's ("BIAS") take on the whole thing! How he would paint a picture from the "War-room" at cBS!!!
549 posted on 09/20/2004 8:54:12 PM PDT by danamco
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Agreed. She has the goods on Dan and he will protect her as long as possible. IMO Mapes and he both were in collusion with the Kerry campaign for this story.

However, when some prosecutor convenes a grand jury to study the criminal aspect of this, it should be real fun to watch these vermin turn on each other and sing like canaries.

Gosh, this just keeps getting better and better. Talk about a story having legs. Hehehe


550 posted on 09/20/2004 8:55:42 PM PDT by LaGrone
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To: ShandaLear

Lockhart joined in August, but it wasn't announced until September.



Unimpeachable source???


551 posted on 09/20/2004 8:56:31 PM PDT by danamco
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To: Dont Mention the War
We are supposed to believe:

1. The Kerry campaign decided to run with the "Privileged Son" attack, claiming Bush did not live up to his national guard commitment and was given privileged treatment.
2. The Kerry campaign gets a call claiming that there are memos that confirm the attack, which they happened to come up with at the same time the memos appeared.
3. Both the Kerry campaign and DNC's opposition research had no interest in the memos.

Who is stupid enough to believe that?

Joe
552 posted on 09/20/2004 8:59:06 PM PDT by j.cam
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To: Enchante
Somewhat off-topic but does anyone know when - assuming it ever happened- Kerry sent 'his own team' to Iraq?

MARCH 7, 2004 Sunday : (TIME REPORTS : JOHN KERRY SAYS HE WILL 'ALMOST CERTAINLY' SEND HIS OWN TEAM TO IRAQ TO ASSESS SITUATION 'WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS OR MONTHS') New York – Senator John Kerry tells TIME that he "almost certainly" will send a team to Iraq "within the next few weeks or months" to help him formulate his Iraq policy positions. "I may ask some Democratic colleagues and experts to go to Iraq and make this assessment so I have a strong basis on which to proceed," he tells TIME's Perry Bacon, Lisa Beyer and Karen Tumulty on his campaign plane from Washington, DC to Florida last week. He mentions Senate colleague Joseph Biden, chief campaign foreign policy adviser Rand Beers and longtime Kerry Senate aide Nancy Stetson. But, says White House communications director Dan Bartlett, Kerry's "mission to finally understand what is happening in Iraq reveals once again that (his) attacks are based on politics, not facts." ...Among the first things Kerry would do as President, says Sandy Berger, who was a National Security Adviser under Bill Clinton and has consulted with Kerry on the subject, would be to tell the American people to "put aside your misgivings or whatever you thought about this in the beginning. We cannot fail now." - TIME, March 7, 2004 via 30 posted on 07/19/2004 5:20:40 PM PDT by kcvl

553 posted on 09/20/2004 9:05:17 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: wildbill; Steve Malzberg; Carl/NewsMax; PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP; Happy2BMe; potlatch; ntnychik; ...






554 posted on 09/20/2004 9:11:54 PM PDT by devolve ( -- JOHN"V"KINKOS scams POW wives! - http://pro.lookingat.us/POW.html --)
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To: devolve

All in one frame! Looks like a whole page of html there!!


555 posted on 09/20/2004 9:21:16 PM PDT by potlatch (Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness.)
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To: danamco

Totally. I have the email to prove it. :-)


556 posted on 09/20/2004 9:21:50 PM PDT by ShandaLear (Rather lied, CBS News died.)
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To: mdittmar
Seems joe did a little foreshadowing on 2/11/2004 Guard flap keeps White House on defensive

"There is a very strong risk that this president is irreparably damaging his credibility," says Joe Lockhart, a former spokesman for President Clinton.

Democrats say it may be too late. Lockhart says, "The clock is ticking on this guy."

What did the kerry campaign now and when??

387 posted on 09/20/2004 7:08:34 PM PDT by mdittmar

*******

Some more foreshadowing for you :

FEBRUARY 2, 2004 : (DNC CHAIRMAN TERRY MCAULIFFE LIES ABOUT BUSH'S MILITARY SERVICE, INSULTS NATIONAL GUARD) DNC Chair Terry McAuliffe Says President Bush’s National Guard Service Not Part Of Military.  “George Bush never served in our military and our country.”  (ABC’s “This Week,” 2/1/04)

FEBRUARY 3, 2004 : (KERRY TRIES TO SLAM BUSH BY : EQUATING NATIONAL GUARD SERVICE WITH DRAFT DODGING, CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTION, ETC) Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) Compares Guard Service To Draft-Dodging. “‘If people went to Canada, if people opposed the war, if people chose to be in the Guard, that’s their choice, and I’ve never raised that in an issue,’ he said.” (Noelle Straub, “Kerry Presents Himself As GOP’s Worst Nightmare,” Boston Herald, 2/3/04)

FEBRUARY 4, 2004 : (KERRY TRIES TO SLAM BUSH BY : EQUATING NATIONAL GUARD SERVICE WITH DRAFT DODGING, CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTION, ETC) Kerry Repeats Insult Of Guard.  “‘I’ve never made any judgments about any choice somebody made about avoiding the draft, about going to Canada, going to jail, being a conscientious objector, going into the National Guard,’ Kerry, a decorated Vietnam veteran, told Fox News Channel. ‘Those are choices people make.’” (Nick Anderson, “Buoyant Kerry Embraces Role Of Frontrunner,” Los Angeles Times, 2/4/04)

FEBRUARY 27, 2004 : (UCLA, CA : JOHN KERRY SPEECH CONCERNING AIRPORT AND PORT SECURITY - SPEECH WOULD BE REMOVED FROM HIS WEBSITE WHEN SANDY BERGER NATIONAL ARCHIVES DOCUMENT THEFT NEWS BREAKS - COULD IT CONTAIN TELL-TALE PHRASES LIFTED FROM STOLEN DOCS?) --- Source - a pajamahadeen

557 posted on 09/20/2004 9:34:20 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Colofornian
Hey, the DU was not the original PROTEST-ants, Martin Luther was, pinning his 95 thesis to The Wittenberg Door.

Hmmmph. We Lutherans don't "pin" things. We nail them. And then we go have a beer and watch the explosion.

558 posted on 09/20/2004 9:45:03 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: BigKahuna
Does anyone know how Kerry felt about the Kosovo/Serbia bombing campaign in '98?

I'd guess he was for it before he was against it.

559 posted on 09/20/2004 9:59:07 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: InterceptPoint
It does take a little time to edit a political spot and get it distributed out to all the stations for broadcast. I wonder what the normal turnaround time is for this and what was actually achieved by the Dems. There could be a smoking gun here if anyone has some hard data.

I would also like to know why Tom Harkin and Terry McAuliffe held a press conference the next morning waving these forgeries to any camera with a red light on them.

Someone should question Harkin. His lying fanny has been AWOL since 9/10/04.

560 posted on 09/20/2004 10:07:15 PM PDT by Carling (What happened to Sandy Burglar's Docs?)
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