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Islam Sign Outside Latrobe-Area Church Stirs Controversy (Islam Is The Enemy)
The Pittsburgh Channel ^ | 9/17/2004

Posted on 09/20/2004 5:23:02 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak

WHITNEY, Pa. -- A Westmoreland County church has put up a contoversial sign, blaming the Islam religion for the events of Sept. 11, 2001.

"To really remember 9/11, you must remember Islam is the enemy," says a sign outside the non-denominational Living Hope Church in Whitney.

Pastor Keith Tucci will keep the sign up for about one more week, then replace it with another one.

The church has a congregation of 200 people.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: islam; koran; moonbats; muslim; sign; thetruth; theywantusdead
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To: cardinal4

The other is still pissed that his daughter was stoned for adultery after being raped.



Sheeesh... then HE got stoned for not pissing properly !!!

ISTIBRA (SHAKING IT DRY ACCORDING TO ISLAMIC LAW)

Istibra is a recommended act for men after urinating. Its object is to ensure that no more urine is left in the urethra. There are certain ways of performing Istibra, and the best of them is that after the passing of urine, if the anus also becomes najis it is made Pak first. Thereafter, the part between the anus and the root of penis should be pressed thrice, with the middle finger of the left hand. Then the thumb is placed on the penis, and the forefinger below it pressing three times up to the point of circumcision, then the front part of the penis should be jerked three times.

The moisture which is discharged by man during wooing and courtship, is called 'Mazi'. It is Pak, and so is the liquid which is seen after ejaculation. It is called 'Wazi'. Similarly, the liquid which at times comes out after urine, is called 'Wadi' and it is Pak if urine has not reached it. If a person performs Istibra after urinating, and then discharges liquid doubting whether it is urine, or one of the above mentioned three liquids, that liquid is Pak.

If a person doubts whether he has performed Istibra or not, and then discharges a liquid about which he is not sure whether it is Pak or not, that liquid is will be deemed najis, and if he has performed Wudhu it becomes void. However, if he doubts whe ther he performed the Istibra correctly or not, and a liquid is discharged about which he is not sure whether it is Pak or not, that liquid will be Pak, and it will not invalidate the Wudhu.

If a person performs Istibra, and also performs Wudhu, and if after Wudhu he sees a liquid discharged, of which he knows that it is either urine or semen, it will be obligatory upon him to do Ghusl, together with Wudhu. But if he had not done Wudhu after Istibra, then Wudhu alone will be sufficient.

When enough time has lapsed since urinating, and one becomes sure that no urine is left in urinary passage, and then he sees some liquid, doubting whether it is Pak or not, he will consider it as Pak, even if he had not done Istibra. If he has Wudhu, it will be valid.

Istibra is not meant for women, and if she sees any liquid and she doubts whether it is urine, that liquid is Pak, and it will not invalidate Wudhu and Ghusl.


21 posted on 09/20/2004 6:12:36 PM PDT by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
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To: Rubber Duck
To really remember 9/11, you must remember militant Islam is the enemy,"

Nah!... I think they got it right. You don't hear any of the locals declaring the beheadings and suicide bombings as "an abomination" for the religion of "peace"(barf!).

Imagine the outcry if a rogue Catholic or Christian country had done this... every minister or priest would be "obligated" to have a sermon decrying these murders/beheadings/suicide bombings.

22 posted on 09/20/2004 6:16:18 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: paguch
Are all Muslums in agreement with the terrorists?

All muslims are in agreement with the koran.
The koran is in agreement with the terrorists.
All muslims are in agreement with the terrorists.

Burn the koran. Destroy the mosques. Kill the terrorists.
'Moderate muslims' look for another source of spiritual inspiration.

23 posted on 09/20/2004 6:26:14 PM PDT by kanawa (Only losers look for exit strategies. Winners figure out how to win.)
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To: GeekDejure

***then the front part of the penis should be jerked three times. ***


If you jerk it more than three times you are playing with it!


24 posted on 09/20/2004 6:27:17 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (DEMS STILL LIE like yellow dogs.)
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To: paguch

yes, few, few, many


25 posted on 09/20/2004 6:32:08 PM PDT by Coroner
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

26 posted on 09/20/2004 6:36:26 PM PDT by 10mm
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To: Rubber Duck
When I'm offended I offend back. I've tried to be tolerant, in consideration of many of the Muslim's I know, but thats changed. I've snapped. Enough! I want to radiate my hate. At the same time I want Hindu's and Sikh's and Buddhist's and Taoist and every other non-violent sect to be safe and unafraid and to be proud of their faiths. Whadda dilemma?

Oh yeah, Mohamed was a diseased pervert and islam is a death cult. These cultist's better start seeing a kinder Deity, or at least conforming to non-violent atheism, because they've awakened the crusader gene.

The crusaders screwed up so much, destroying the innocent in their ignorant pursuit. Much of the blame of wahabi'ism results from mistakes during the crusades. Now I'm a crusader.

27 posted on 09/20/2004 7:03:21 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: GeekDejure

Only muslim would come up with something like that..


28 posted on 09/20/2004 7:03:31 PM PDT by cardinal4 (John Kerry- "A Hamster Tale..")
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Phase 1:

Phase 2:


29 posted on 09/20/2004 7:13:56 PM PDT by Henry Krinkle (Glass Mecca ... It's the only way to be sure ...)
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To: cardinal4

Only muslim would come up with something like that.



It is haraam to relieve oneself at the following four places:

- On the property (land) of a person who has not granted permission for the purpose.

- In blind alleys, without the permission of the people who live there.

- At a place which is waqf exclusively for its beneficiaries, like some Madrassahs.

- On the graves of Momineen, and at the sacred places whose sanctity will thus be violated.

In the following three cases, anus can be made Pak with water alone:

- If another najasat, like blood, appears along with the faeces.

- If an external najasat reaches the anus.

- If more than usual najasat spreads around the anus.

In the cases other than those mentioned above, anus can be made Pak either by water or by using cloth, or stone etc., although it is always better to wash it with water.

The urinary organ cannot be made Pak without water. If one uses kurr or running water, then washing the organ once will suffice, after removal of essential najasat. But, if one uses under-kurr water, then recommended precaution is to wash it twice , better still, three times.

If the anus is washed with water, one should ensure that no trace of faeces is left on it. However, there is no harm if colour and smell remain. And if it is washed thoroughly in the first instance, leaving no particle of stool, then it is not necess ary to wash it again.

The anus can be made Pak with stone, clod or cloth provided they are dry and Pak. If there is slight moisture on it, which does not reach the outlet, there is no objection.

If one makes oneself totally Pak with stone, clod or cloth once, it will be enough, though it is better to do it three times. In fact, it is better to use three pieces. And if one does not get totally Pak after three times, he may continue till he is Pak. However, there in no harm, if invisible, tiny particles are still there.

It is haraam to make the anus Pak with things which are sacred and revered, like, a paper on which the names of Allah and the Prophets are written. And using bones or dung for the purpose, may not make the place Pak.

If a person doubts whether he has made the outlet Pak, it is necessary that he should make it Pak even if he may have been doing it always as a matter of habit.

When a person doubts after Namaz, whether he made the outlet Pak before he started the prayers, the namaz already prayed will be valid, but for the ensuing prayers, he will make himself Pak.

I'm John Kerry and I approve this message !!! ;-))


30 posted on 09/20/2004 7:52:23 PM PDT by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
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To: GeekDejure

Sometimes I wonder what would happen if we had a stronger Pope who views Islam as the threat it is...

Is another Crusade possible?


31 posted on 09/20/2004 7:59:28 PM PDT by Ueriah
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To: F15Eagle
"Jack van Impe quoted the koran as "peaceful" deliberately ignoring the verses that are now so painfully obvious (this was on his TV show a couple weeks ago)."

_________________________

Is he still on TV? He says the Koran is 'peaceful' does he?

For somebody who does nothing but study the middle east and it's cultures and religions, that is an amazing statement.

32 posted on 09/20/2004 8:00:31 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (46 days until November 2nd)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Only story I could find on this.

From a 'moderate muslim', with reference to the church sign. A long read but I want to get it on record.


Wakeup Non-Muslims!!
by Abid Ullah Jan
Media Monitors Network

Nothing is more dangerous than taking enemies for friends out of utter ignorance or for being misinformed.

That is exactly what is happening in the non-Muslim world due to the fear and lies about Muslims and Islam spread by a sinister alliance of the neo-cons of the West and neo-mods of Islam — an army of opportunists under different banners from "moderate" to "liberal" and "progressive" Islam.

In the end, non-Muslims will remember not the "enemies" portrayed on the cover pages of the Times, [1] but the ones who push the non-Muslim world from confusion into clash and from clash into unnecessary wars and ultimate fall of the much vaunted global order.

The enemy of the non-Muslim world is not Islam as it is now being officially recognized in the political (the 9/11 Commission’s report) and religious circles (the sign outside a church reading: you must remember Islam is the enemy).

The enemy of the non-Muslim world are not Muslims fighting physically and intellectually to bring an end to the direct and indirect occupations of their homelands.

The real Muslim-enemies of the non-Muslim world are those Muslims who are close friends of the real culprits behind 9/11: the war criminals involved in the continued carnage around the Muslim world. Together they are a gang that has shaped the mindset that sees enemy in nothing but Islam. [2]

Muslim-enemies of the non-Muslim world have no bombs. They have no intention to blow up building. They do not even intend to undermine the West. Their interest lies in success of the totalitarians in Washington and other capitals.

Their benighted opportunism, however, makes them extremely dangerous. As effective tools in the hands of the real culprits behind 9/11, [3] they are unknowingly undermining interest of both the East and the West.

Muslims-enemies of the non-Muslim world are not the masked gunmen in Iraq. They are the most “civilized” faces that we find under different banner from “moderates” to “liberal” and “progressive Muslims” — the neo-mods of Islam.

Understanding how the neo-mods of Islam are undermining the Western world under the auspices of the neo-cons is as much interesting as it is important to reverse this destructive trend.

It must go without saying that those who planned destruction of the WTC and forged a passenger plane's attack on Pentagon are not friends of the United States and its allies at all because for them destroying American property and killing innocent people is of no value as long as these criminal acts could serve their criminal objective.

Sacrificing WTC and 3000 people therein is just like the US customs and DEA agents brining in drugs from Colombia; selling it in the US street to their fellow countrymen; keeping the proceeds in American banks and then finally transferring these funds to BCCI (Bank of Credit and Commerce International) to facilitate its closure in 1988. [4]

These criminal acts, the subsequent occupations and the continuing carnage did not occur is a vacuum. These criminal acts and the subsequent political and military adventures needed years of ground work to prepare a mindset that would instantly accept Muslims and Islam as the enemies and would feel comfortable with all kinds of psychological degradation and physical annihilation of the alleged enemy.

The most important task of preparing such a depraved mindset has been undertaken by the “intellectual” alliance of likeminded war lords, such as Huntington, Lewis, Pipes, Perle, Friedman, Frum and others. Their work has been the real inspiration for the culprits behind 9/11 and their subsequent barbarism in Iraq and Afghanistan.

It is not difficult to see the whole range of enemies once it is established as to who are the real culprits behind 9/11 because by simple logic the friends of the enemies are also enemies.

It is not difficult to understand that the WTCs were not destroyed to bring a revolution in the US for some unimaginable levels of progress and prosperity. The only motive was to make the US invade and occupy the perceived “enemy lands,” to promote a “war within” its perceived enemies and to impose a “way of life” which the perpetrators of these crimes deem appropriate for the whole world.

The real culprits behind 9/11 were most probably technicians, military experts, political figures and some strategic planners but, of course, not the opinion makers.

Nevertheless, it were the opinion makers who brought the real culprits to this state of mind and continue to belittle their crimes. The real friends of these opinion makers — read war lords — are the neo-mods of Islam who are being exploited to achieve the same objectives: facilitating and justifying invasions and occupations; promoting a “war within Islam”; demonizing Islam as incapable to govern all aspects of life and glorifying neo-cons' “way of life.”

The US is not sitting in Iraq and Afghanistan just because of the lies by a few political figures and full moral support of the opinion makers with war infected mentality. They were also backed up by an army of Muslim opportunists within and outside the United States whose devoted struggle paved the way for barbarism in the name of democracy and liberation. The "intellectual" war lord's opinion alone could not have drawn the US into the quagmires to this extent.

These war lords and their Muslim counterparts (moderates, liberals and progressives) are breaking new grounds to widen the gulf between the East and the West. On the one hand American researchers are digging out the facts to expose the real culprits behind destruction of the WTCs and on the other the real culprits are promoting these Muslim opportunists so that they not only accept responsibility for the crime but present Islam in the most degraded form possible.

Once the real culprits behind 9/11 make these Muslim puppets perfectly speak against Islam, the non-Muslim world would not need the war-lords like Friedman, Frum, Perle and Pipes, talking and tarnishing the image of Islam to them.

Besides Pipes and company’s numerous appeals to promote [5] these common enemies of the East and the West and their version of hypocrisy, [6] the recent additions are web sites like freemuslims.com and muslimwakeup.com.

FreeMuslims.com was launched soon after the politically ambitious and self-confessed apostate Muslim Kamal Nawash [7] met Daniel Pipes after a defeat in state elections. It is a good idea for self-promotion till the next elections. Pipes proudly claims to keeping an eye on activities of Kamal's organization like a big brother. [8] So much is enough for judging credibility of the views about Islam and Muslims published on the web sites the organizations erected out of expediency.

Content on the second web site, MuslimWakeUp.com, is less for clarifying the confusion about Islam and more for sowing the seeds of hatreds and terror; thus intensifying the fear of Islam, promoting a “war within Islam,” glorifying the values promoted by the US war lords and justifying the barbaric attitude towards the Muslim world.

Any Muslim or non-Muslim who has a little sense of ethics and morality cannot even share material published on its page, "Sex and the Umma," with his family, let alone promoting what it advocates: teen pregnancy, out-of-wedlock births, [9] the use of sex toys, homosexuality, [10] extra-marital sex, [11] and mockery of the sayings of Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) [12] and the Qur’an. [13]

The web site claims that it “champions an interpretation of Islam that celebrates the Oneness of God and the Unity of God’s creation through the encouragement of the human creative spirit and the free exchange of ideas, in an atmosphere that is filled with compassion and free of intimidation, authoritarianism, and dogmatism.”

These thoughts will attract many non-Muslims towards this and many other such sites, but looking at the references given at the end of this write up, one must decide if such ideas serve the purpose of the war lords in the US or they give “an interpretation of Islam that interprets the oneness of God.”

This unnecessarily lascivious content not only violates some basic community decency standards of discourse but also leaves Salman Rushdie and Naguib Mahfouz look like saints.

According to this web site, a father angry at her teenage daughter’s out of wedlock pregnancy is “akin to a tune from a Nazi marching band,” but it believes: “whether self-appointed or not, America will determine the fate of the Muslim World.” A father cannot shape the fate of his teenage kids but the US has every right to impose the values espoused by its war lords no matter how many lives it may take.

Interestingly, web sites belonging to “progressive” Muslims are almost all pro-Bush. Muslims for Bush remained a permanent link in their web sites. They have been twisting stories in favour of Bush as well. For example with a Photo from an anti-Bush protest rally in New York, the headline reads: This Is What Democracy Looks Like: Joining a Quarter of a Million Marchers in New York to Welcome the Republicans. [14]

It is very important for the Americans and other non-Muslims to identify friends of their real enemies within. In this case, these are the opportunist Muslims, rallying under different banners behind the American war lords.

Look at the 6 demands of the “progressive” Muslims and compare these with the unnecessary length and depth of Islam-bashing for sowing terror at MuslimWakeUp.com to see that the objective of the exercise is not what is demanded in the first place. So would be the end results both for the Muslim and the non-Muslim world.

There could be many disagreements among the followers of any religion or inhabitants of a society. It, however, doesn’t need to give free licence to the war lords from another land to invade, occupy, torture and annihilate whole populations to “determine their fate.”

The neo-mods of Islam promoting agenda of the war lords in the US is a sure recipe for global disaster.

Sane minds would do well to ignore the filth perpetrated by these Muslim opportunists and make them accountable with their sponsors and promoters — the real culprits behind 9/11 and subsequent mass killings.

Ignoring the cursed alliance of the neo-mods of Islam and the neo-cons of the West has led to Islam-is-the-enemy sign outside a church in the US today. If no appropriate actions are taken in time, tomorrow it will definitely turn the US and allied states into Nazi Germany of the late thirties.

The 21st century Final Solution would be far more horrible than the 19th century because unlike 10-12 million Jews, the solution this time around will be for 1.3 billion Muslims, including the ones which are being exploited to intensify a "war within Islam."

34 posted on 09/20/2004 9:09:19 PM PDT by kanawa (Only losers look for exit strategies. Winners figure out how to win.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

In the name of Allah, Muslim terrorists in Russia stabbed babies to death, shot toddlers in the back, forced children to eat rose petals and drink their own urine, raped teenage girls, executed their teachers and blew themselves up in a crowded school gymnasium. Death toll: 338.


35 posted on 09/21/2004 7:29:04 AM PDT by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Only story I could find on this. Hey CAIR, thanks for the link! Hahaha...

Islam. Beheadings R Us.

36 posted on 09/21/2004 7:30:14 AM PDT by veronica ("Not all Muslims are terrorists, but almost all terrorists are Muslims." Abdulrahman Al-Rashed)
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To: Rubber Duck

Truth hurts.


37 posted on 09/21/2004 7:30:26 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Bandwidth is too good for these (L)users.)
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To: 68 grunt

The Sikh's blew up a jetliner off Scotland and assassinated Indira Gandhi.. I am not too sure about them.


38 posted on 09/21/2004 1:24:20 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: kanawa

Man, that is out there.


39 posted on 09/21/2004 1:26:32 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

No denying the Sikhs aren't bloodless, and absolutely they are devastating personal fighters, but I think they if left in peace and freedom they will return the same.


40 posted on 09/21/2004 1:28:47 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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