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THE KINKO'S CAPER (David Van Os Speaks)
TAS - Letters ^ | 9/20/04 | David Van Os

Posted on 09/20/2004 2:24:52 PM PDT by swilhelm73

This is regarding your September 17 story, "Working Kinko's."

You re-quoted a quote that the New York Times ascribed to me, in which I was discussing a hypothetical worst-case scenario with the Times reporter, Ralph Blumenthal. The Times inaccurately quoted me by using only half of my sentence, in a manner implying that I would condone forgery. This was a terrible misquote on which the Times honorably issued a correction this morning. I am an ethical citizen and an ethical lawyer and never ever would I condone forgery or falsification. Growing up immersed in the strong values of rural East Texas I learned the ways of honor and integrity from my military officer father and my schoolteacher mother. I am an Eagle Scout. My peers in the legal profession have honored me with the highest possible "AV" peer review rating for ethics and legal ability. I hew to the principles of honor and integrity with my every breath.

My real statement to the Times was that if hypothetically an individual in 2004 sat at a word processor and tried to create replicas of documents that they believed existed in 1972 or 1973, that could not change whatever the objective reality was of what George W. Bush was doing or not doing or where he was or wasn't at the times in question. My statement is such a plain truth that it hardly needed to be said, but I said it to the Times reporter in order to illustrate why the issues surrounding the "CBS documents" are not material to and cannot change the facts of history, whatever those facts may be. I invite you to see the correction published in the New York Times this morning. My statement was not intended to condone forgery and if stated in full cannot fairly be read to do so.

Referencing your reference to my previous service as Democratic County Chairman for Travis County, Texas, an honorable position in which I was proud to serve, I served in such position for the term of 1996-98. I moved away from Travis County in February 1999. I was active in the Travis County Democratic Party from the mid 1970s to 1999. During my over 20 years in Travis County Dan Rather did not perform a fundraiser for the Travis County Democrats to my knowledge. The fundraiser that you appear to be referring to must have occurred after I no longer lived in Travis County. There is nothing in the slightest dishonorable about Dan Rather appearing at a fundraiser for one of the two major political parties -- many public figures often lend themselves to such activities out of a sense of civic duty. However, to suggest any connection between that fundraiser and Bill Burkett is ridiculous.

As Lieutenant Colonel Burkett's personal attorney, I do not have the legal right to divulge anything that he may have said to me in confidence in the course of my professional relationship with him. Thus I cannot and will not do so, unless and until he releases me from that professional obligation, which is something that he has the legal right to do or not to do at any time. Based upon my personal knowledge of Bill Burkett's character from knowing him and knowing of his reputation among his peers, I will state unequivocally that Bill Burkett did not falsify or create the "CBS documents." I do not assume that anyone falsified or created those documents until more is known, but if anyone did, it was not Bill Burkett. I will stake my reputation and good name on this certainty. Further from my knowledge of Bill Burkett's character and integrity, I will state unequivocally that if, hypothetically speaking, Bill Burkett handled documents that were recent creations rather than true copies of originals, he would have done so only because he had reason to believe they were true copies rather than recent creations.

The entire focus on Bill Burkett is being foolishly used to deflect attention away from other questions that are more relevant for the American citizenry at large. Colonel Killian's secretary, Ms. Knox, has publicly stated that although she did not type the "CBS documents", they may be attempted re-creations of documents that may have existed, and the contents of the documents do reflect what was actually going on with George Bush and the Texas Air National Guard. Bill Burkett is not the individual who is currently an employee of the citizens of America and who is currently asking the taxpayers to rehire him. George Bush is. The taxpaying citizens have a right to get answers to the questions of what he was doing and why and where he was and why during the times that Ms. Knox refers to, times when he was previously serving as an employee of the citizens and taxpayers of America. It is absurd to expect anyone to believe that an individual intelligent enough to be President of the United States cannot remember any details about significant events in his life. Americans are generally a forgiving people if they are told the truth. Mr. Bush should trust the people and give them a chance to handle the truth. That might show that he has more appreciation for self-governing democracy than his actions have generally shown.

Thank you for printing this rejoinder to your misleading implications about my character and Bill Burkett's character.

Sincerely, -- David Van Os San Antonio, Texas


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cbs; cbsnews; forgery; killian; kinkos; rather; rathergate
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1 posted on 09/20/2004 2:24:52 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: swilhelm73

This guy sounds like he is going to be a fountain of unintentional comedy throughout this thing.


2 posted on 09/20/2004 2:29:07 PM PDT by xcullen (DC Conservative)
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To: swilhelm73
My real statement to the Times was that if hypothetically an individual in 2004 sat at a word processor and tried to create replicas of documents that they believed existed in 1972 or 1973, that could not change whatever the objective reality was of what George W. Bush was doing or not doing or where he was or wasn't at the times in question. My statement is such a plain truth that it hardly needed to be said.

This is the funniest thing I've read in days.

3 posted on 09/20/2004 2:30:18 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: wideawake

This really is the funniest unintentionally funny, genuine statement I have read in years! Really.


4 posted on 09/20/2004 2:33:30 PM PDT by liberlog
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To: swilhelm73

So, if I sat at my "typewriter" and pounded out that
David Van Os was, in 1997, a lying piece of Communist
scum that whipped his employees and forced then to perform
unnatural acts, that doesn't change the objective reality
of the upstanding fellow David Van Os really is.

But if I get CBS to plaster that reputation-smashing
memo across the network, no big deal, huh...just because
you're such a work of ethical art?


5 posted on 09/20/2004 2:38:06 PM PDT by plangent
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To: swilhelm73

You can tell a lot about a client from his lawyer.


6 posted on 09/20/2004 2:38:54 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: wideawake
This is the funniest thing I've read in days.

No kidding.

"that could not change whatever the objective reality was of what George W. Bush was doing or not doing or where he was or wasn't at the times in question."

But they sure as hell forged some documents to attempt to 'prove'
"whatever the objective reality was of what George W. Bush was doing or not doing or where he was or wasn't at the times in question."

This whole thing is really starting to make me sick.

7 posted on 09/20/2004 2:40:16 PM PDT by GaltMeister (I'm just a Pajamahadeen cog in the wheels of the VRWC.)
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To: swilhelm73
Sincerely, -- David Van Os San Antonio, Texas

Translation:
Insincerely, -- David Van Os for Place #9 on the Texas Supreme Court.

8 posted on 09/20/2004 2:40:21 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (What did Dan Rather know, and when did he know it?)
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To: swilhelm73
"The taxpaying citizens have a right to get answers to the questions of what he was doing and why and where he was and why during the times that Ms. Knox refers to, times when he was previously serving as an employee of the citizens and taxpayers of America."

I'm sure that Mr. Van Os is equally insistent on Kerry signing that "180" form so the taxpaying citizens can also see what Kerry really did in the military.

NOT!!!

9 posted on 09/20/2004 2:42:09 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: swilhelm73
It is absurd to expect anyone to believe that an individual intelligent enough to be President of the United States cannot remember any details about significant events in his life.

This is my favorite sentence from this Kerry supporter. Others will have their own favorites. But this one I just feel drawn to linger over.

10 posted on 09/20/2004 2:43:27 PM PDT by Taliesan (fiction police)
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To: swilhelm73
Based upon my personal knowledge of Bill Burkett's character from knowing him and knowing of his reputation among his peers, I will state unequivocally that Bill Burkett did not falsify or create the "CBS documents." I do not assume that anyone falsified or created those documents until more is known, but if anyone did, it was not Bill Burkett. I will stake my reputation and good name on this certainty.

Then....who did create the forgeries, Sherlock? The plot thickens!

11 posted on 09/20/2004 2:44:34 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: wideawake

Couldn't try and create funnier stuff than that. Keep it up boys.


12 posted on 09/20/2004 2:45:10 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (My Father was 10x the hero John Fraud Kerry is.)
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To: xcullen

ping David Van Os....


13 posted on 09/20/2004 2:47:07 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: Travis McGee

I think they just appeared out of the blue. Obviously divine creations. (I know I have felt heavenly after they appeared.)


14 posted on 09/20/2004 2:47:37 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (My Father was 10x the hero John Fraud Kerry is.)
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To: wideawake
yeah... and he used a FORGED signature because???
15 posted on 09/20/2004 2:54:31 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: swilhelm73

Wow! He wants to be a Supreme Court Judge! He sees nothing wrong with a national TV news anchor/managing editor of NEWS attending a partisan political function!


16 posted on 09/20/2004 3:04:01 PM PDT by maica
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To: swilhelm73
"...objective reality..."

The objective reality for us, Mr. Os is that your client now states he did accept forged documents from a source he is protecting. Is your client in the news media and accorded First Amendment protections the media always cites?
17 posted on 09/20/2004 3:04:03 PM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: swilhelm73
I will stake my reputation and good name on this certainty.

Oh yeah, David? Well, I'll see your good name and reputation and I'll raise you eight cents, Canadian.

18 posted on 09/20/2004 3:07:32 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: swilhelm73

Did an 86 year old secretary type this crap?


19 posted on 09/20/2004 3:07:41 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: swilhelm73
I will state unequivocally that Bill Burkett did not falsify or create the "CBS documents." I do not assume that anyone falsified or created those documents until more is known, but if anyone did, it was not Bill Burkett. I will stake my reputation and good name on this certainty.

Okay Van Os, tell us who DID create the phony documents. You must know.

20 posted on 09/20/2004 3:10:11 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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