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CBS News Concludes It Was Misled on National Guard Memos, Network Officials Say
New York Times ^ | 9/20/04 | Jim Rutenberg

Posted on 09/19/2004 9:40:13 PM PDT by LibWhacker

After days of expressing confidence about the documents used in a "60 Minutes'' report that raised new questions about President Bush's National Guard service, CBS News officials have grave doubts about the authenticity of the material, network officials said last night.

Those officials, who asked not to be identified, said CBS News would most likely make an announcement as early as today that it had been deceived about the documents' origins, and that it was mounting an intensive news investigation of where they came from.

But these people cautioned that CBS News could still pull back from an announcement. Officials were meeting last night with Dan Rather, the anchor who presented the report, to go over the information it has collected about the documents one last time before making a final decision.

People at the network said it was now possible that officials would open a formal internal inquiry into how it moved forward with the report, which officials now say they are beginning to believe was too flawed to have gone on the air.

The report relied in large part on four memorandums purported to be from the personal file of Mr. Bush's squadron commander, Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian, who died 20 years ago. The memos, dated from the early 1970's, said that Colonel Killian was under pressure to "sugar coat'' the record of the young Lieutenant Bush and that the officer had disobeyed a direct order to take a physical.

Mr. Rather and others at the network are said to still believe that the sentiment in the memos accurately reflected Mr. Killian's feelings, but that the documents' authenticity is now in grave doubt.

The developments last night marked a dramatic turn for CBS News, which for a week stood steadfastly by its Sept. 8 report as various document experts asserted that the typeface of the memos could have been produced only by a modern-day word processor, not Vietnam War-era typewriters.

The seemingly unflappable confidence of Mr. Rather and top news division officials in the documents allayed fears within the network and created doubt among some in the news media at large that those specialists were correct. CBS News officials had said they had reason to be certain that the documents indeed came from the personal file of Colonel Killian.

Sandy Genelius, a network spokeswoman, said last week, "We are confident about the chain of custody; we're confident in how we secured the documents.''

But officials decided yesterday that they would most likely have to declare that they were misled about the records' origin after Mr. Rather and a top network executive, Betsy West, met in Texas with a man who was said to have helped the news division obtain the memos, a former Guard officer named Bill Burkett.

Mr. Rather interviewed Mr. Burkett on camera this weekend, and several people close to the reporting process said his answers to Mr. Rather's questions led officials to conclude that their initial confidence that the memos came from Mr. Killian's own files was not warranted. These people indicated that Mr. Burkett had previously led the producer of the piece, Mary Mapes, to have the utmost confidence in the material.

It was unclear last night whether Mr. Burkett told Mr. Rather that he had been misled about the documents' provenance or that he had been the one who did the misleading.

In an e-mail message yesterday, Mr. Burkett declined to answer any questions about the documents.

Yesterday, Emily J. Will, a document specialist who inspected the records for CBS News and said last week that she had raised concerns about their authenticity with CBS News producers, confirmed a report in Newsweek that a producer had told her that the source of the documents had said they were obtained anonymously and through the mail.

During an interview last night she declined to name the producer who told her this but said that the producer had been in a position to know. CBS News officials have disputed her contention that she warned the network the night before the initial "60 Minutes'' report that it would face questions from documents experts.

In the coming days CBS News officials plan to focus on how the network moved ahead with the report when there were warning signs that the memorandums were not genuine.

Ms. Will is one of two documents experts consulted by the network who said they raised doubts about the material before the segment was broadcast. Another expert, Marcel B. Matley, said in interviews that he had only vouched for Colonel Killian's signatures on the records and not the authenticity of the records themselves. Mr. Matley said he could not rule out that the signatures were cut and pasted from official records pertaining to Colonel Killian.

In examining where the network went wrong, officials at CBS News were turning their attention to Ms. Mapes, one of their most respected producers, who was riding particularly high this year after breaking news about the Abu Ghraib prison scandal for the network.

In a telephone interview this weekend, Josh Howard, the executive producer of the "60 Minutes'' Wednesday edition, said he did not initially know who was Ms. Mapes' primary source for the documents but that he did not see any reason to doubt them. He said he believed Ms. Mapes and her team had appropriately answered all questions about the documents' authenticity and, he noted, no one seemed to be casting doubt upon the essential thrust of the report.

"The editorial story line was still intact, and still is, to this day,'' he said, "and the reporting that was done in it was by a person who has turned in decades of flawless reporting with no challenge to her credibility.''

He added, "We in management had no sense that the producing team wasn't completely comfortable with the results of the document analysis.''

Ms. Mapes has not responded to requests for comment.

Mr. Howard also said in the interview that the White House did not dispute the veracity of the documents when it was presented them on the morning of the report. That reaction, he said, was "the icing on the cake'' of the other reporting the network was conducting on the documents. White House officials have said they saw no reason to challenge documents that had been presented by a credible news organization.

Several people familiar with the situation said that they were girding for a particularly tough week for Mr. Rather and the news division should the network announce its new doubts.

One person close to the situation said the critical question would be, "Where was everybody's judgment on that last day?''


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To: hobson

>>>The major bloggers have linked to it thanks to Cableguy and ratherbiased.com


Silly me, I should have known that you were ahead of me with work that good. :)


161 posted on 09/19/2004 10:17:45 PM PDT by Stonedog (Mr. Blather... tear down this STONEWALL!!)
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To: RJL

I betcha right now that Dan Rather is going to say the White House is his unimpeachable source (because they didn't disprove the forgeries supposedly from some dead guy's secret files).

And I also betcha right now that Burkett was the motivator of this whole story (with a likely assist from the DNC - their whole 'fortunate son' non-sense dovetailed just way too conveniently with this story) and Rather went to Texas to confront him directly.

Evidently he didn't like the answers he got.


162 posted on 09/19/2004 10:17:49 PM PDT by lowteksh
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To: Reagan is King

CBS stands firm on the grounds that the information was provided by an unimpeachable mental patient.


163 posted on 09/19/2004 10:18:01 PM PDT by Enterprise (The left hates the Constitution. Islamic Fascism hates America. Natural allies.)
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To: BereanBrain

Thanks!


164 posted on 09/19/2004 10:18:08 PM PDT by hobson
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To: Stellar Dendrite

I guess now we know why ole corn cracking Danny boy had his panties in a twist today when the Fox guy stuck a microphone in his face.


165 posted on 09/19/2004 10:18:12 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (What did Kerry know and when did he know it?)
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To: DameAutour
No, I don't think it will be Rather. After reading the Washington Post article it seems like it will be Mary Mapes who gets thrown off the train.

They seem to be putting full responsibility on Mapes, not only for researching the story for the past five years, but for vetting the documents with experts.

The Peter Arnett "I only read the news" defense for Dan. It didn't work very well for Peter.

166 posted on 09/19/2004 10:18:13 PM PDT by RJL
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To: WoofDog123

Yep. No kiddin'.


167 posted on 09/19/2004 10:18:14 PM PDT by Terabitten (Live as a bastion of freedom and democracy in the midst of the heart of darkness.)
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To: Enterprise

"We are confident about the chain of custody; we're confident in how we secured the documents."
This is almost heart stopping funny. Kinko's is the choice of secure custody for people with secrets to keep. Oh man, what twits.




What is really funny about all of this. When Rather was first busted for the fakes...He exhibited what Bernie Goldberg wrote about in "Arrogance". That he and the media lib elites at Blackrock were far more intelligent than the rest of us...and we should never question them.

YET IT WAS THOSE ELITES WHO USED A FORGED COPY FAXED FROM A KINKOS IN ABILENE.

Looks like "WE THE PEOPLE"...have way more intelligence than the lib media elitists.


168 posted on 09/19/2004 10:18:31 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud (all)
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To: YaYa123
Mary Mapes, you was had!

No she wasn't .. most everyone knows Burkett is a nut case .. him and Marty Heldt have been after Bush for years .. so (imo) someone else backed up these documents, someone that Dan trusts .. or they had them sent to Burkett to be passed on to CBS

169 posted on 09/19/2004 10:18:42 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: LibWhacker
...which officials now say they are beginning to believe was too flawed to have gone on the air.

No shit?

170 posted on 09/19/2004 10:18:55 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

171 posted on 09/19/2004 10:19:18 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Yep. I knew it was coming after I saw NYT lay the groundwork for the Burkett sacrifice a few days ago. I was one of the posters who wasn't "oohing and aahing" over the fact that NYT implicated Burkett.


The NYT never moves without permission from the DNC.

I would not be surprised if the DNC coordinated this with CBS News and rest of the MSM.

Burkett is the "lone nut."


172 posted on 09/19/2004 10:19:21 PM PDT by stands2reason (Limousine Liberal--a man who has his cake, eats his cake, and complains that other people have cake.)
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To: JoJo Gunn
"Rather should distance himself from the story, and now here's this."

Can't believe CBS would think that was going to fly. Bad legal advice, or none at all. They just contaminated a 'witness.'

173 posted on 09/19/2004 10:20:00 PM PDT by Eastbound ("Neither a Scrooge nor a Patsy be.")
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To: ArmyBratproud

Well, the elite media people have degrees. The people have intelligence.


174 posted on 09/19/2004 10:21:19 PM PDT by Enterprise (The left hates the Constitution. Islamic Fascism hates America. Natural allies.)
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To: stands2reason

'Burkett is the "lone nut."'

Do you think people will buy it? I hope not!


175 posted on 09/19/2004 10:22:28 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: Mo1
>>>"so (imo) someone else backed up these documents, someone that Dan trusts .."

I'm guessing Robin Rather gave ole Dan her ok after her buddy from the Travis county RAT party (and Burkett's lawyer), David Van Os, said he would vouch for them. Speaking of Van Os, I'd bet a dollar to a donut that he's the one who hooked Burkett up with saint Max Cleelands' cell # for that little call.
176 posted on 09/19/2004 10:22:57 PM PDT by Stonedog (Mr. Blather... tear down this STONEWALL!!)
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To: LibWhacker

Rather will redeem himself by proving with geometric logic that young Lt. Bush had a key which allowed him to steal a quart of strawberries from the officers' mess.


177 posted on 09/19/2004 10:23:32 PM PDT by ScottFromSpokane (Re-elect President Bush: http://spokanegop.org/bush.html)
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To: Enterprise
NYT backfills for CBS

A more fitting headline...

178 posted on 09/19/2004 10:23:53 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: LibWhacker

179 posted on 09/19/2004 10:23:56 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: ArmyBratproud

Everyone read #168 again. ArmyBratproud nailed it.


180 posted on 09/19/2004 10:24:03 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Go Swifties)
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