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Drudge: Secret Service on Trail of Presidential Assassins
Sunday, September 19, 2004 | Kristinn

Posted on 09/19/2004 8:20:40 PM PDT by kristinn

A worried Matt Drudge reported on his radio show tonight that the Secret Service is on the trail of several people intent on assassinating President Bush.

Drudge said the news story is not his, but that "those in the know" know what he's talking about.

He said more will be reported in the coming days.

Drudge pleaded with his fellow Americans to let the political process play out and to not descend to killing presidential candidates.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush43; deaththreat; jfkslastbesthope; lawrenceward; napalminthemorning; niederer; usss
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To: kristinn

Constantly Praying for The President and this Country..


301 posted on 09/20/2004 5:21:42 AM PDT by The Mayor (It is easier to resist the first evil desire than to satisfy all the ones that follow.)
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To: Cyclops08
I believe that there are leftists that are planning something like this. I know leftists are capable of this type of atrocity. You just need to look back through history to see what collectivists are capable of and the depths of their blood lust.

If the leftists/progressives/socialists try this, I think we should consider it an act of war and the first shot of Civil War II. Not north vs south but constitutional freedom vs collectivist tyranny. I believe we need to make it ABUNDANTLY clear to the collectivists that if they bring things to this level they WILL be TARGETS. ALL of them (media,politicians,academics). Maybe if they understand that THEIR own life is forfeit they will do the responsible thing and call off their mutts.

A little deterrence is a good thing.
302 posted on 09/20/2004 5:24:11 AM PDT by myself6 (Nazi = socialist , democrat=socialist , therefore democrat = Nazi)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Hmmm... I wonder if the "psychic" that issued that prophecy is hearing strange clicks on his telephone today...


303 posted on 09/20/2004 5:29:39 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever ("The message of the Cross is foolishness to those who are perishing...")
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan

Zero...point...zero.


304 posted on 09/20/2004 5:31:14 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever ("The message of the Cross is foolishness to those who are perishing...")
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To: kristinn
Drudge pleaded with his fellow Americans to let the political process play out and to not descend to killing presidential candidates.

Is Drudge implying that this is politically motivated? ...such that our processes have failed? I mean...any presidential assassination would be to a degree, but if the left stoops so far....what remains as a recourse in our processes?

It's a rhetorical question....the answer is not pretty. This sounds like coup/uprising material to me.
305 posted on 09/20/2004 5:43:25 AM PDT by hiredhand
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To: DooDahhhh
Does Drudge still have a link to FR?

sw

306 posted on 09/20/2004 5:50:14 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: myself6

Could someone give me some specifics of what this thread is about? What exactly did Drudge say?


307 posted on 09/20/2004 5:51:54 AM PDT by Husker24
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To: olde north church
That is a good point. He was inaugurated on Mar 15th 1865, approximately a month before his assassination.
308 posted on 09/20/2004 5:55:06 AM PDT by HOYA97 (Hoya Saxa = What Rocks)
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To: arasina; hellinahandcart; JustPiper; CyberAnt; Humidston; Canticle_of_Deborah; I'm ALL Right!; ...
Check out the dark-haired guy looking straight at President Bush in this photo taken during the president's visit to Colorado. Gave me the creeps, although the young man was probably just intensely enthralled.

I agree with hellinahandcart -- the guy over his left shoulder looks like SS keeping an eye on him. I HOPE so, anyway. Surely they're allowed to "profile" and thus follow ME-looking people, but with the current PC-mentality, you never know. I wouldn't doubt it if they had to follow 5 wheelchair-bound, AARP members for every 1 swarthy, olive-skinned young male. I also hope the SS isn't infested with the "wear-a-suit" mentality that rules the day among the federal airline marshalls. Arrrgh.

Look at the woman with the flag. There are probably some female SS agents in there working under cover, too. It sure would be much easier for a woman to hide a wire in her ear and look like a genuine Bush supporter, although that particular woman has short hair.


309 posted on 09/20/2004 5:57:48 AM PDT by Nita Nupress ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6/28/04)
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To: myself6
I believe that there are leftists that are planning something like this. I know leftists are capable of this type of atrocity. You just need to look back through history to see what collectivists are capable of and the depths of their blood lust.

You are so correct, sad to say.

If you've looked at the history of the Soviet Union and Communist China there are too many instances of political leaders being killed because they constituted a threat to the top leadership of the country. The most notorious example was during the time of Josef Stalin and the infamous Yezhovchina Great Purge of the 1930's that many have killed over 10,000,000 people because of Stalin's paranoia about threats to himself.

310 posted on 09/20/2004 6:02:37 AM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: Beckwith
The guy in the very center of the picture...looks middle eastern (sorry, no PC comments here.) Do the people who attend these things have to be searched etc before entering?

Freshly shaved too.

Oh, good observation. How creepy.

311 posted on 09/20/2004 6:02:54 AM PDT by Nita Nupress ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6/28/04)
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To: I'm ALL Right!
If they kill him, I'd be shocked if it isn't the official beginning of the second CIVIL WAR.

Who are you planning to rebel against?

312 posted on 09/20/2004 6:02:54 AM PDT by Capriole (DO NOT WRITE IN THIS SPACE. FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY.)
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To: momofsixgirls
Also, one more thing we noticed. There was a camera man following along with the president and also during the speech taking pictures of the crowd. We theorized this was so they could study them to see if maybe the same people were showing up to different venues, like stalking or something.

I'd say it's a good bet your theory is correct. I've heard from a family who has a son-in-law SS that an unbelievable amount of prep work takes place for each and every appearance the President makes. IMO, they just can't be paid enough for the job they do.

313 posted on 09/20/2004 6:16:13 AM PDT by Nita Nupress ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6/28/04)
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To: MeekOneGOP; dennisw; SJackson; TrueBeliever9; Geist Krieger; JohnHuang2; Salem; Sanch; ...
Friends of Dubya - ping.

Thoughts from an Islamic leader in the recent past (England)

____________________________

Patterns of Global Terrorism - 2000 Released by the Office of the Coordinator for Counterterrorism

"FANATIC SHEIKH'S VIDEOS OF TERROR "A Nice, Clean War""

By Gary Jones, Chief Reporter Kanchan Dutt And Don Mackay

MUSLIM leader Sheikh Abu Hamza has told young British supporters that murder, bank robbery and looting are legitimate weapons against the enemies of Islam.

BATTLE CRY: Sheikh Hamza speaking at a Trafalgar Square rally

Secret tapes obtained by the Daily Mirror show how the one-eyed cleric has urged violence at recruitment meetings across Britain - and warned that the infidel should be kept on the run.

Hamza, 44, appearing at an Islamic rally in London yesterday, denied telling followers that it was all right to kill w esterners living and working in foreign lands.

But on one of the six video tapes made at private meetings around the country the fanatic tells impressionable young supporters: "What are they doing there anyway? Most of them are spies.

"Even if they don't do anything - if Muslims cannot take them and sell them in the market - kill them, it's OK."

DANGEROUS TALK: Hamza in a clip from the secret videos obtained by The Mirror

Egyptian-born Hamza, who lost an eye and had both arms blown off by a landmine during the Afghan war against the Russians, is leader of the Supporters of Shariah movement based at the mosque in Finsbury Park, North London.

He has denied recruiting British Muslims into the al-Qaeda terrorist network and claims inflammatory statements attributed to him are fabricated.

But at meetings behind closed doors, he urges followers to take up arms against the infidel.

"We have to push our children to the front line," he said. "Everybody wants his son to be killed like a lion."

Hamza said anyone standing in the way of his Islam would spend their life in fear.

HE warned: "They should always be worried. They should always be on the run. They should always feel insecure."

At a mosque in Birmingham, the sheikh issued another call to arms.

He said: "Why should there be a battle? Why should there be an argument?

"But a struggle means sometimes arguing to convey the message. Even if it means you convey the message by carrying a sword.

"Allah wants to know who will sacrifice for him."

During a question and answer session, Hamza said banks were a Jewish establishment, the work of Satan.

Robbing them and kafirs, or unbelievers, could be acceptable because they were not protected by Allah. He said: "I say go and do it (steal), take shoot and loot.

"Every battle has its purpose. Ours is to put the authority of Allah and humiliate kafir who are challenging the authority of Allah and Muslims.

"Sometimes you will feel too weak to go on, but you say 'I still have some strength to humiliate and kill and remove some of the germs who are making me weak so that people who come after me can carry on with weaker enemies'."

Hamza also backed burglary and theft from non-believers. He said: "I can't see any problem giving yourself a free hand - getting yourself a new car.

"Go for their houses where you can loot and come back. It is like going to the forest and picking up wood from no man's land."

On one video Hamza says it is legitimate to wage war against targets such as the American embassies in Dar es Salaam and Nairobi which were attacked by al-Qaeda in 1998.

The sheikh is also heard giving advice to those joining a jihad, or holy war. He said: "Allah made the contract that a certain kind of believer will fight in the cause of Allah ... they will kill in the cause of Allah.

"Jihad is their fight and it is also an obligation. But some people call this terrorism."

"Jihad is the only way to protect believers. Jihad comes first.

"I do not want you to say 'I believe in one God'. No, no. I want you to make trouble for kafirs.

"Before you can say I believe in you God I want you to put everybody's god in the dustbin.

"And so you insult kafir...you say there is no god except the creator Allah. You start the trouble.

"Allah will never ever allow the kafir to be pleased with you. He created them and he moulded them to be your enemy.

"Jihad is moving up and proving yourself. It is something for you to look for. Go and look for it." The sheikh has been linked to alleged shoe bomber Richard Reid - awaiting trial in America - Zacarias Moussaoui, the so-called 20th hijacker on September 11 who is on remand in the US, and Feroz Abbasi, from Croydon, South London, who is among the prisoners at Camp X-Ray in Cuba.

Hamza is wanted by America and the Yemen.

Questions are now being asked over why he has not been dealt with under the Terrorism Act 2000 outlawing support for radical Islamic groups and making it a criminal offence to raise funds.

The only time Hamza has been detained was in 1999 when he was questioned by Scotland Yard detectives on suspicion of terrorism offences. He was held for several days and released without charge.

Andrew Dismore, Labour MP for Hendon, North London, has spoken out since September 11 on Hamza's suspected links with terrorists and alleged anti-American comments. He said the videos were "one more argument that it is about time action was taken against Hamza".

The MP added: "I believe he has committed incitement to violence and I find it very difficult to understand why he has not been subject to prosecution.""

A SPOKESWOMAN for the Home Office said she could not comment on the Hamza case, but added: "We are monitoring a number of individuals and organisations.

"The Home Secretary has powers to deport someone who represents a danger to the public good.""

The spokeswoman said someone seen to be inciting the public could warrant a Government investigation.

She added: "If it was seen as a threat, for example, to national security that could be a reason to deport somebody." Scotland Yard said it would be keen to study the tapes to see whether the cleric had broken the law.

At yesterday's rally in Trafalgar Square, Hamza refused to condemn terrorist atrocities against the West and said he backed a jihad: "We support a nice clean war.

"We don't know any war other than a holy war. We are not going to spill blood unnecessarily."

Hamza even claimed New York's Twin Towers collapsed from inside because of "an America-Zionist plot to blame the Muslim world".

He said: "There is no way these buildings could collapse in that manner after three hours.

"Al-Qaeda may have ambitions to do that, but I don't believe they did.

"I'm a trained civil engineer and I know from what I have seen those buildings collapsed from the inside."

The sheikh denied ever urging young Muslims to kill westerners. "I haven't said that," he said. "It is a crude statement. If you leave us alone, we will leave you alone."

Four people were arrested during clashes between rally supporters and far-right demonstrators. Two speakers were also arrested.

Two British National Party supporters were bundled to the ground by police and handcuffed before being led off for public order and breach of the peace offences as a banner proclaiming "Bin Laden is a murderer" was unfurled.

Police, fearing more violence, ordered the rally's blaring speakers turned off.

Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed, who has called on Muslims to fight the "evil forces" behind attacks on Osama bin Laden, said: "We are moving towards dangerous times. We can only expect worse."

He denied inciting racial hatred but said any attacks against Iraq would bring retaliation.

314 posted on 09/20/2004 6:16:44 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (46 days until November 2nd)
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To: JustPiper; nw_arizona_granny
Dear GOD in heaven Maker of all things. Put YOUR protective hedge around George W Bush, His family and this administration. Keep the evil ones away from them all. In Jesus name I pray Amen.
315 posted on 09/20/2004 6:26:55 AM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (Character exalts Liberty and Freedom, Righteous exalts a Nation.)
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To: Husker24
Not sure of Drudge's exact comments but the "gist" is clear.

The topic of this thread is generally "Are leftists desperate enough to try something like this?" Side topics are "what can we do to stop them" and "what do we do to them if they succeed"
316 posted on 09/20/2004 6:31:01 AM PDT by myself6 (Nazi = socialist , democrat=socialist , therefore democrat = Nazi)
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To: kristinn

Well what do you expect. their candidate advocated the murder of Senators back in the 70's and got by with it. I wonder if skerry will call on his evil minions to cease and desist.


317 posted on 09/20/2004 6:32:30 AM PDT by marty60
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To: kristinn

Yikes! What's this crap all about?


318 posted on 09/20/2004 6:33:32 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: Rutles4Ever

Seven years of college down the drain! Might as well join the f**king Peace Corps!!


319 posted on 09/20/2004 6:34:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Republicam)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

It is a threat to Bush. I connected the URL that is involved with this a post 28 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1220974/posts?page=28#28

Fox was given the lead research story on the UN Oil to Food scandal and it was aired last night.


320 posted on 09/20/2004 6:35:24 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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