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To: DTA
What must be taken into account is the quick defiance and set-up of the revolt against occupation compared to other countries that were rudely invaded.

This revolt done was supported by the Masonic people of that region and not by Orthodox Serbs. Thereby, hoppies arguement is spittle, a fungus.

There was not an uprising by the Croatians against the Nazis. The Croats did rise up against the Serbs. The Bosnian Muslims and the Albanians joined the Croatians in welcoming the Nazis and rose up against the Serbian civilian population.

There is too much proof of history showcasing how write I am and how wrong Hoplite is.

Problem is, many people are too lazy to search the facts themselves so reliance on their ignorance is the preferred task.

17 posted on 09/21/2004 12:04:28 PM PDT by ma bell (Niti cemo se pokoriti, niti ukloniti We shall neither yield or submit.)
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To: ma bell

>>>The Bosnian Muslims and the Albanians joined the Croatians in welcoming the Nazis and rose up against the Serbian civilian population.

Oh, and don't forget the Hungarians too.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1217680/posts

/sarcasm


18 posted on 09/21/2004 1:04:00 PM PDT by GeraldP (Non-violence never solved anything.)
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To: ma bell; Hoplite; joan
Croatian Ustasha credo:

Hitler and Pavelic:

After all, if the Croat state wishes to be strong, a nationally intolerant policy must be pursued for fifty years, because too much tolerance on such issues can only do harm."

Adolf Hitler to Ante Pavelic in their meeting, June 6, 1941

"For the rest - Serbs, Jews and Gypsies - we have three million bullets. We shall kill one third of all Serbs. We shall deport another third, and the rest of them will be forced to become Roman Catholic." Mile Budak, Minister of Education of Croatia, July 22, 1941

"There are limits even to love... (It is) stupid and unworthy of Christ's disciples to think that the struggle against evil could be waged in a noble way and with gloves on."

Archbishop of Sarajevo, Ivan Saric, 1941

"Croats no longer think that German troops are present merely to provide peace and security, but that they are here to support the Ustasha regime [...] The Ustashas promote the impression that they act not only in agreement with German instances, but actually on their orders. [...] There is here today a deep mistrust of Germany, because it is supporting a regime that has no moral or political right to exist, which is regarded as the greatest calamity that could have happened to the Croat people. That regime is based entirely on the recognition by the Axis powers, it has no popular roots, and depends on the bayonets of robbers who do more evil in a day than the Serbian regime had done in twenty years."

Captain Haffner to General Edmund Glaise von Horstenau, Plenipotentiary of the Wehrmacht in Zagreb, Croatia, 1941

"Our troops have to be mute witnesses of such events; it does not reflect well on their otherwise high reputation... I am frequently told that German occupation troops would finally have to intervene against Ustasha crimes. This may happen eventually. Right now, with the available forces, I could not ask for such action Ad hoc intervention in individual cases could make the German Army look responsible for countless crimes which it could not prevent in the past."

General Edmund Glaise von Horstenau to the OKW, July 10, 1941

"The horrors that the Ustashi have committed over the Serbian small girls is beyond all words. There are hundreds of photographs confirming these deeds because those of them who have survived the torture: bayonet stabs, pulling of tongues and teeth, nails and breast tips - all this after they were raped. Survivors were taken in by our officers and transported to Italian hospitals where these documents and facts were gathered."

Commander of the Italian Sassari Division in Croatia, 1941

"Increased activity of the bands is chiefly due to atrocities carried out by Ustasha units in Croatia against the Orthodox population. The Ustashas committed their deeds in a bestial manner not only against males of conscript age, but especially against helpless old people, women and children. The number of the Orthodox that the Croats have massacred and sadistically tortured to death is about three hundred thousand."

Report to Reichsfuhrer SS Heinrich Himmler from the Geheime Staatspolizei - GESTAPO - dated February 17, 1942

"From the founding [of the NDH] until now the persecution of Serbs has not stopped, and even cautious estimates indicate that at least several hundred thousand people have been killed. The irresponsible elements have committed such atrocities that could be expected only from a rabid Bolshevik horde."

German foreign ministry plenipotentiary representative in Belgrade Felix Benzler to Joachim von Ribbentrop, Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Reich

" (In Croatia under the Ustasha) ...over half a million [Serbs] were murdered, about a quarter of a million were expelled from the country, and another quarter of a million were forced to convert to Catholicism." Encyclopaedia of the Holocaust

19 posted on 09/21/2004 1:10:21 PM PDT by DTA
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