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Terrorists in Muslim Disguise
Inside Story World Report ^

Posted on 09/19/2004 1:25:01 PM PDT by GIJoel

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To: GIJoel

You post information from an unreliable source. In fact as scholarship goes he stands alone since he has no fellows backing up his claim. But typical of your type to post and run when confronted.


61 posted on 09/19/2004 9:49:46 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: GIJoel
http://proliberty.com/observer/20011005.htm

From the October 2001 Idaho Observer:

Osama bin CIA?

by Hari Heath

62 posted on 09/19/2004 9:55:34 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro

Like I said, Destro, you're falling for Leftist propoganda.

If you doubt Antero Leitzinger's credentials, I suggest you conduct a google search on his work (type in Eurasian Politician, much of his work is there). As soon as the original link works again I will post it.


63 posted on 09/19/2004 10:05:26 PM PDT by GIJoel
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To: GIJoel

PS

You might also want to check out the "We Are The Next Target" thread. You might learn something.


64 posted on 09/19/2004 10:06:31 PM PDT by GIJoel
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To: MarMema

Maybe you should do a Russian thread....interesting comments, you have made. I was fascinated by that Putin quote on your home page. Can you give me any more info on it?

Thanks


65 posted on 09/19/2004 10:40:07 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: TheLion
Putin was being criticized for his war on chechnya, I don't know, a year or two ago.

I believe it was a French reporter. This was his reply.

The translator, at the time, neglected to report the ending, but it was later fairly widely reported.

66 posted on 09/19/2004 10:50:41 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema

It sure leaves a mark! Maybe I can find it somewhere on the net.

Thanks for getting back.


67 posted on 09/19/2004 10:55:04 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: GIJoel
I suggest you take a closer look at the state of Russian "private" property.

Thanks but when I was there over 5 years ago, Russians had ownership of apartments and homes. And I lived with Russians but they often took me to Canadian and American homes nearby so I could speak English. My Russian was acceptable but wearying. The breaks were very nice.

At any rate it was from these Canadians and Americans living there, working there, that I learned much.

68 posted on 09/19/2004 10:55:36 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: GIJoel; MarMema
Some guy in a Finnish non-profit think tank. Who funds it? The Saudis? One of the so called Founding Fathers of ‘The Eurasian Politician’ claims to be from the Chechen Republic of to be Ichkeria.

You have been duped by Islam, a dhimmi. Islam's useful idiot.

For an article to claim that the Taliban were not backed by Pakistan's secret service or by Saudi money (the only two nations outside of "Chechen Ichkeria" to recognize them) leaves the scholarship of this author in shreds.

Laughable.

69 posted on 09/19/2004 11:21:24 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro

I'm not going to argue with a closed mind. If you want to rely on MSM sources for your information on the global terror network, be my guest.


70 posted on 09/19/2004 11:30:02 PM PDT by GIJoel
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To: GIJoel
And you rely on info by a group that supports Islamic insurgents in Eurasia - a group designed to publish disinformation to cover Saudi (and sad to say certain American groups like those in oil and the neocons) interests in Eurasia.
71 posted on 09/19/2004 11:35:04 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: GIJoel

PS: You know when this article was written? Mid 90s when Clinton was supporting Islamic independence movements all over Eurasia and the Balkans - using Muslims against Serbs and Russians and others to play the great game over control of natural resources and routes.


72 posted on 09/19/2004 11:37:01 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro

Destro, are you trying to be humorous, because you're starting to make me laugh.


73 posted on 09/19/2004 11:39:03 PM PDT by GIJoel
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To: GIJoel
The breakdown in terror is as follows:

The USSR trained and backed secular nationalist and socialist terrorists like the PLO and the IRA.

Iran funded local Shia terror organizations and the like and was independent of West and East.

America and the West made common cause with the fundamentalist Muslims out of which we saw the rise of al-Qaeda from the veterans of the Afghan war against the Soviets. If you want to call Latin American so called right wing death squads terrorists (I don't on a technicality) then they are from our side as well.

Not pretty but the truth never is.

74 posted on 09/19/2004 11:44:42 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro

Destro,

If you really want to blow a gasket, do a Freep search for the ISWR special report, "We Are The Next Target." You'll love that one.


75 posted on 09/19/2004 11:53:28 PM PDT by GIJoel
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To: ApesForEvolution
Perfect example of Soviet/Russian terrorists in Muslim disquise. Pretend your Muslim, kill hundreds of innocent civilians, and then blame authentic Muslims. Does anyone want to take a stab at why the Soviets/Russians would do such a thing???




Chechen Republic of Ichkeria
Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Official Statement
09/12/2003

http://www.chechnya-mfa.info/print_news.php?func=detail&par=101

PRESS-RELEASE: TERRORISM IN RUSSIA IS ORGANIZED AND MANAGED BY THE RUSSIAN SECURITY AND MILITARY INTELLIGENCE SERVICES FOR PROPAGANDA AND SCAPEGOATING PURPOSES


Terrorism in Russia is organized and managed by the Russian security and military intelligence services for propaganda and scapegoating purposes. We do not think that the latest bombing in Moscow is an exception to this rule.

The fact that Russian security services in committing terrorist acts in Russia and elsewhere occasionally use their agents of Chechen origin does not make the Chechen people and the Chechen government responsible for the Kremlin's dreadful crimes. The Chechen government will not, under any circumstances, accept violence against civilians and civilian objects. We repeat that we condemn terrorism in all its forms.

We regret that the western governments fail to see that it is Russian governmental structures that organize these terrorist acts and that it is Russian agents that carry out these terrorist acts. There is a plenty of evidence to this.

For instance, Mr. Khanpasha Terkibaev, an ethnic Chechen serving for the Russian Secret Service and who is one of the main organizers and direct participant of the hostage taking in the Moscow Theater Center at Dubrovka in October 2002, is a clear proof that terror in Russia comes from the Russian government.

Mr. Khanpasha Terkibaev even after the hostage taking has continued to work for the Russian state structures, including the deputy head of President Putin's administration Mr. Vladislav Yuryevich Surkov and Putin's aide Mr. Sergei Vladimirovich Yastrzhembsky. As the hostage taking ended in killing not only Russian but also western nationals, we believe that western governments should no longer close eyes to Kremlin’s role in terrorism. [1]"

Press Office

See, for instance, Anna Politkovskaya’s article in Novaya Gazeta, issue # 30, 28 April 2003.


76 posted on 09/20/2004 11:49:24 AM PDT by GIJoel
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Now that the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) is beginning to defeat Israel

Uhhhhhhhh.......sure.

77 posted on 09/20/2004 3:19:43 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Brad's Gramma

The article stated "beginning to defeat Israel," not defeated Israel. If Israel is so much more powerful than the PLO and Co., then why do suicide bombers and bus bombs go off in Israel on a regular basis? Surely, if Israel is so powerful they could just surround the West Bank and Gaza and finish them off. Why don't they?


78 posted on 09/20/2004 4:02:32 PM PDT by GIJoel
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Why don't they?

They will. Trust me. They WILL!!! :)


79 posted on 09/20/2004 4:07:01 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Brad's Gramma
Ok, we agree on that. But Israel is clearly on the defensive, even though they have overwhelming superiority. Why?
80 posted on 09/20/2004 4:11:34 PM PDT by GIJoel
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