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‘Flip-flop’ faces new attacks as former wife beats cancer (KERRY UPDATE)
The Sunday Times ^ | September 19, 2004 | Sarah Baxter

Posted on 09/19/2004 1:21:23 AM PDT by MadIvan

IT HAS been one of the best-kept secrets of the presidential election campaign. Julia Thorne, the first wife of John Kerry, the Democrat candidate, has been suffering from cancer.

After months of treatment out of the public eye, she has now been declared cancer-free and has returned to her home in Montana.

Thorne is considering writing a book about her experience of illness, but not until after the November election. “She is somebody who has written books before and has a lot to share with people,” a family friend said.

If the past is a guide, she may include some acerbic thoughts on the political campaign. Thorne, who married Kerry in 1970 and divorced in 1988, so hated being a political wife that she became severely depressed.

“I associated politics only with anger, loneliness and fear,” she wrote in her 1996 book on divorce, A Change of Heart.

In another book, on depression, she described how she had contemplated suicide. “Five months after my 36th birthday, my mind ravaged by corroding voices, my body defeated by bone-rattling panics, I sat on the edge of my bed minutes from taking my own life.”

Kerry’s bid for the White House brought the press back to her door, but while daughters Alexandra and Vanessa Kerry took to campaigning with gusto, Thorne, 60, remained out of the limelight. Her cancer treatment, which began last November at an East Coast hospital, went unreported.

“She has been enormously stressed and very grateful that people have respected her privacy,” her friend added. Thorne will still have to return to hospital for check-ups.

A spokesman for the Kerry campaign said Alexandra, 30, and Vanessa, 27, had “plenty of opportunities to spend time with their mom”, despite their hectic political schedule. “They are very pleased that she is doing so well.”

The mainstream media have kept their distance from Kerry’s personal life and, in particular, his marriage to Thorne. Like his second wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry, she was an heiress: her family was worth an estimated $300m. Her twin brother David Thorne was Kerry’s best friend at Yale University.

Some right-wing commentators have made hay with Kerry’s relationships, however. One of the most biting, Ann Coulter, has blasted the candidate as “just a gigolo”, “living off other men’s money by marrying their wives and daughters”.

Republican dirty tricks may intensify now that Thorne has recovered from her illness. On Rush Limbaugh’s hugely popular and ultra-conservative radio show, an advertisement about the candidate’s “flip-flops” — a persistent Republican theme — dominates most commercial breaks. The ad purports to sell anti-Kerry playing cards but is really an excuse to knock the candidate before an audience of millions.

To the theme tune of Flipper, the film about a dolphin, the narrator goes straight for the jugular: “He flip-flopped on his marriage of 18 years . . .” then turns to alleged “flip-flops” on policy.

Long after his divorce, Kerry went on to annul his marriage to Thorne in deference to his second wife, a Catholic. While Thorne did not contest the annulment, believing her husband had the right to remarry, she made no secret of her bitterness about the procedure.

“It was disrespectful to me, it was aloof to any emotional issues and devoid of any sense of the humanity of what this means to me and the children,” said Thorne.

Friends have been reluctant to revisit this episode out of loyalty to Thorne and political support for Kerry. In one of her few public comments, Thorne herself has said she is backing Kerry 100% for the presidency.


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To: Capricam

http://www.americancatholic.org/Newsletters/CU/ac1002.asp

Ten Questions About Annulment

by Joseph M. Champlin


5 Does an annulment make the children illegitimate?

No. The parents, now divorced, presumably once obtained a civil license and entered upon a legal marriage. Children from that union are, therefore, their legitimate offspring. Legitimate means “legal.” The civil divorce and the Church annulment do not alter this situation. Nor do they change the parents’ responsibility toward the children. In fact, during annulment procedures the Church reminds petitioners of their moral obligation to provide for the proper upbringing of their children.

Nevertheless, persons pondering the Catholic annulment process do often express this concern about the legitimacy of the children after that procedure. It’s a persistent rumor.


41 posted on 09/19/2004 5:56:52 AM PDT by maggief
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To: MadIvan
So the girls are off buying jock straps with their father while their mother battles for her life.

What class.

42 posted on 09/19/2004 6:07:47 AM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: maryz

You think maybe the church altered their annulment policies after Henry VIII?


43 posted on 09/19/2004 6:17:22 AM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: Prime Choice; patriciamary
Money and political influence work wonders.

Nonsense. Annulments are handed out like candy these days. Even the modest fee (usually a few hundred dollars, for time and paperwork) can be waived in the case of the poor.

The real problem is one of overall excessive granting of annulments, not one of corruption.

44 posted on 09/19/2004 6:22:32 AM PDT by B Knotts ("John Kerry, who says he doesn't like outsourcing, wants to outsource our national security.")
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To: Prime Choice



Which means that his marriage to his first wife never happened and, for all intents and purposes, his children from that union are illegitimate.

Wonder how that makes the Kerry kids feel? Hell, wonder how it makes his first wife feel?



Someone, who was less compassionate, might claim they were a bunch of b*st*rds.


45 posted on 09/19/2004 6:31:13 AM PDT by punster
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To: MadIvan
"Long after his divorce, Kerry went on to annul his marriage to Thorne in deference to his second wife, a Catholic. While Thorne did not contest the annulment, believing her husband had the right to remarry, she made no secret of her bitterness about the procedure. "

That always amazed me. EIGHTEEN years and TWO kids later the marriage is "annulled" as though it never happened. In the eyes of God it DID happen.

I suspect she may have some choice things to say about ole John, the gigolo. Teresa is the kind you ONLY Marry for money. I hear he was broke. I wonder, did ole John leave his first wife when he learned of her cancer or did he just drive her crazy?
46 posted on 09/19/2004 6:32:21 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nopardons
Yeah, he is another extremist easily threatened - "ultra conservative talk show", "Republican dirty tricks" etc.. This author is a disgrace.

Is he aware of the fraudulent memos? They are the ultimate in Demoncrat dirty tricks with C- BS leading the way. That's a criminal; situation.
47 posted on 09/19/2004 6:35:08 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: maryz
"A church annulment says that the marriage did not meet the standard for the sacrament of matrimony."

If the parties could work out their differences then it would have continued to meet the "Sacrament of matrimony". Because the ole John and his wife couldn't stand each other anymore, a divorce, er "annulment" took place of the marriage of EIGHTEEN years with TWO kids! It's just a way for Catholics to get a divorce after paying off the priest.

In the eyes of God is has always been a legitimate marriage.
48 posted on 09/19/2004 6:38:49 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: MadIvan
Thorne is considering writing a book about her experience of illness,

That's what we need, another book about surviving cancer.

49 posted on 09/19/2004 6:39:41 AM PDT by Casloy
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To: Ichneumon
>Hell, wonder how it makes his first wife feel?

>“It was disrespectful to me, it was aloof to any emotional issues and devoid of any sense of the humanity of what this means to me and the children,” said Thorne.

(But I'm still voting for this man...what a man, indeed!)

50 posted on 09/19/2004 6:41:12 AM PDT by harbinger of doom (Putting the "Fun" back in "Fundamental")
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To: maggiefluffs
Does it matter that God sees this marriage as legitimate? Or is it all about making excuses for the Catholic Church to allow divorces? Don't answer. It's obviously a compromise from the Catholic church for divorce. NO where in the Bible is "annulment" allowed. It's a joke.
51 posted on 09/19/2004 6:41:47 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: MadIvan; All
Here's one thing (among many) the writer gets wrong:

There is absolutely NO evidence that Kerry ever in fact obtained the annulment. He APPLIED for it - not the same thing. He even joked at one point to some interviewer or reporter about applying for it. But in yet another "flip flop", he and his campaign have refused to confirm that he ever GOT it, and IIRC one campaign spokesman actually backtracked on it - which means of course that he never did get it. He and TeRAYza were married in a civil ceremony outside the church, so the church certainly didn't sanction his second marriage.

He's probably not only in mortal sin because he supports abortion on demand, he's also living in sin without his first marriage being annulled. How he can approach the Sacrament is a mystery to me.

BTW, annulments don't cost a lot of money, and they don't make children of the marriage illegitimate. I do think they have been handed out way too freely.

52 posted on 09/19/2004 6:49:11 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: tkathy
Of all the bones I have to pick with the Catholic Church, that one is right up there near the top. I can hardly think about without wanting to spit.

My heart goes right out to Julia Thorne.

53 posted on 09/19/2004 7:02:32 AM PDT by Ladysmith (Wanted: Pajamas designed with purple-hearted bandaids.)
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To: MadIvan
On Rush Limbaugh’s hugely popular and ultra-conservative radio show, an advertisement about the candidate’s “flip-flops” — a persistent Republican theme — dominates most commercial breaks. The ad purports to sell anti-Kerry playing cards but is really an excuse to knock the candidate before an audience of millions.

Oh! How completely terrible! Imagine, an ad that is really an excuse to knock the candidate! What an outrage. I'm shocked, I tell you. Positively shocked. Will these conservatives never cease being unjust to our dear Sir John? And that Rush Limbaugh person--he is apparently "ultra-conservative," of all things. This is dreadful, simply dreadful.

54 posted on 09/19/2004 7:43:37 AM PDT by Capriole (DO NOT WRITE IN THIS SPACE. FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY.)
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To: MadIvan
Okay. . .can understand the 'lonliness' and the 'anger' - at being left alone, no doubt; but the 'FEAR'? Of not being able to get a good lawyer, should she need one or worse, perhaps.. .

Would bet it was Ted Kennedy that advised Kerry to get an annulment so as to keep a legitimate door open for his church-going-sacrament-receiving, phot-ops that Ted knew he would need.

55 posted on 09/19/2004 7:46:40 AM PDT by cricket (Don't lose your head. . vote Republican. . .)
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To: Lori675
Also, Teresa Heinz has a prenup with Kerry. If she passes away, all the Heinz money goes to her kids not Kerry.

So you've read the prenup, the will and the trust...

56 posted on 09/19/2004 7:56:53 AM PDT by lewislynn (Why do the same people who think "free trade" is the answer also want less foreign oil dependence?)
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To: leadpenny

Yeah at some point if you go far enough right you meet the left coming round the other side.


57 posted on 09/19/2004 8:09:45 AM PDT by joesnuffy ( "Two Heads Are Better Than One"...."Unless They're On The Same Person" -Andy Sipowicz)
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To: joesnuffy

The election of a divorced Catholic with Jewish ancestors would be a first in a lot of ways.


58 posted on 09/19/2004 8:13:27 AM PDT by ClaireSolt
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To: Prime Choice
Which means that his marriage to his first wife never happened and, for all intents and purposes, his children from that union are illegitimate.

WRONG. An annullment does not make the children bastards. It's what anti-Catholics like to throw around but it's patently untrue.

Myth No. 2: "Annulments make children bastards"

59 posted on 09/19/2004 8:17:01 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I was born naturally but raised Cesarean.)
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To: Prime Choice
Which means that his marriage to his first wife never happened and, for all intents and purposes, his children from that union are illegitimate.

Wonder how that makes the Kerry kids feel? Hell, wonder how it makes his first wife feel?

Can't be bothering her very much. - Friends have been reluctant to revisit this episode out of loyalty to Thorne and political support for Kerry. In one of her few public comments, Thorne herself has said she is backing Kerry 100% for the presidency.

60 posted on 09/19/2004 8:22:53 AM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb republicans. - Capt. Tom)
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