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Bill Burkett's Yahoo Groups Message to his Fellow DemonCats
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Posted on 09/18/2004 10:14:28 PM PDT by ambrose

Mitch and all Democrats,

This is long - but I urge you to read it.

I'm sorry but the whole strategy on this has been poor, slow of foot and anemic. It accents that Kerry is actually "flip flopping" in that he is slow to act, and then doesn't seem to have a single plan, but instead seems to have two plans.

First, we all knew the swift boat book and attack ads were coming. I knew about them in May, for God's sake. I saw postings on this site in Early July.

There didn't seem to be a clear plan. On the one hand, the Kerry team wanted to wait it out and say nothing and play the good guy role. Most of this was grounded in the same responsive approach Gore and Dukakis had used and it was obvious both that Bush would use this approach and the effect it would have. So why didn't we learn from the lessons?

Then we overestimated the impact and level of commitment of new found supporters gained from the convention. We began to believe our own press, and Kerry goes on vacation.

Now dammit, I've worked with Rove, Hughes, Bartlett and Bush. They knew he was a little "pretty". There was even a story about Rove's comments about Edwards being a little "pretty". What that means is that they knew he wouldn't be able to scrap. And they haven't.

So when someone claws Kerry what does he do, "Whine" to the FEC?

I spent some time on the phone with the Kerry campaign seniors yesterday after having to threaten to whip a little ass in order to get through seven layers of bureaucratic kids trying to get a job after the election. I talked with Max Clelend.

I hope he got the message, but even if he did, I'm not sure that his side of the issue can beat out the other half of the advisors. And that's a problem. There seem to be two factions within the Kerry advisors = one camp is the Gore holdover group who say play nice, we may make someone mad. The other includes people like Max Cleland who say kick ass. And the candidate can't seem to follow instincts and lay down some blood. The comments that he made Friday would have been effective if they'd been made the Monday after the convention, but two weeks later just doesn't work.

I'm concerned.

You have a candidate and all of us do. Your candidates are afraid to fight down and dirty. The people say they're sick of this- and they are. But Bush has nothing to lose. And he will do ANYTHING to get what he wants. SO when they do the attacks, if the turnout is lowered, as you are concerned, then he wins. If he scars Kerry, he wins. He wins in all directions unless there is a counterattack.

I said all of this to Max. I asked if they wanted to counterattack or ride this to ground and outlast it, not spending any money. He said counterattack. SO I gave them the information to do it with.

But none of them have called me back.

No, I'm sorry but until this party and this candidate learn to handle Bush, we in all honesty will lose this election. We have the emotion, the backlash, the issues, and discontent, but we don't have the passion for a fight. And that's what is about to get the elec tion tight enough that the dirty tricks in the voting booth and counting will work.

I've tried everything. Why do you think that my knowledge and ability was sufficient that I received death threat and actual shots fired at me? It's because I was willing not only to break ranks, but to fight. And I know how to fight them.

But the DNC is afraid of me, I guess, and afraid to do what I suggest.

John Edwards continues to be a non-factor. He won't fight.

So Kerry takes a vacation to go duck hunting, snowboarding, or something else every time he gets a slight lead. He doesn't know how to exploit success. This allows Bush to consolidate message, regain balance and regain momentum and then come back and kick butt.

Since Kerry just took away Moveon.org's counterattack, what the hell has he left himself? He has left himself as a piñata at the end of Karl Rove's baton. He will continue to receive attacks from 527s (it's ludicrous to think you could stop them), from the RNC, Cheney, Bush and he has just stacked arms - a unilateral disarmament - a cease fire negotiated by McCain - who has a dog in the fight (the other guy?).

NO ONE can tell me this is a well run campaign either by the candidate or the party.

I've volunteered to come back to come back out with more. Others have too. But this candidate doesn't know how to fight and the campaign organization seems destined to loss in spite of the victory handed it by circumstance.

I'm sorry, I hope I can change my observation - and soon. But every time we get momentum, we take a week off and lose focus.

George Bush is vulnerable on the issues. So put him on the defensive dammit.

And you don't do that by being a nice guy.

George Bush is vulnerable on leadership and you have to point it out.

The scores for the convention were a six on a scale of 1-10. But the follow through was anemic and lacked focus.

You can't wait for someone to attack you in these campaigns. You must be prepared for someone to attack you and respond immediately and in force. That's

what's missing. Some of you call it James Carville. I call it common sense.

And let this be a message for us in Texas.

Now I know I scare some of you - and some of you just aren't up for leaving any blood on this battlefield. But it's going to take some blood if we are going to take this country and this state back from the Bush's Rove's Delays, Hughes, Perrys and Parrys. If you aren't willing to scrap in this campaign - you'll be fighting for scraps throughout the rest of history of our country. It's that important and that simple.

For me, I've been to war. Most of you have quickly forgotten that I was the insider who broke ranks with the Bush Team and fought them in the legislature when our Democratic State legislators and LT. Gov were in bed with Bush to make him President. I fought many of the people whom you now consider HEROS because of Ardmore and Albuqurque. Why? because Bush was as corrput in Texas as he has been in Washington. And I exposed it.

While I hear all of you commenting and cannonizing the Repblicans who have jumped ship from the Bush Administration - Ambassador Wilson, Paul O'Neill, Richard Clarke, etc and then watching as the Modereate Republicans like Richard Holbrooke, and John McCain take to the headlines building compromise and disarmament, I know that I was one of the first on June 25, 1997; followed by the funergate scam and others.

If you want to turn this cuntry around, it can't be done with Bush in the White House. If you want to return freedom to our streets, it can't be done with Bush in the White House and Ashcroft as DOJ. So quit letting Ashcroft hide. Call him out.

If you want fiscal responsibility returned, you can't have that with Bush in the White House and the senate under the control of the Republicans.

Do more than talk. Be ready to gird up and go into battle. And when you go to battle there are scars. This isn't a gentlemanly event. It's war. And in war people get cut up, injured and killed. Take some risk. Be a leader nationally and at home. Quit just waiting for this victory to come to you so you can get some nice appointment out of it. If you wait, it will be a very long wait.

Bill Burkett


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: billburkett; napalminthemorning
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
You got your pajamas on!!!

No, I don't... it's that OK? LOL.

Thanks for the link.

121 posted on 09/19/2004 1:54:34 AM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Kerry's testimony before the Senate was instrumental to America's defeat in the Vietnam War)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Well Rats, I was gonna ask you for a picture with your PJ's on!


122 posted on 09/19/2004 1:55:54 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
LOL! Here is one...



123 posted on 09/19/2004 1:57:32 AM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Kerry's testimony before the Senate was instrumental to America's defeat in the Vietnam War)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Now that is lovely!

Time for me to say good night, I'll be thinking about that picture.


124 posted on 09/19/2004 1:59:26 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Nighty night, Ernest. I can't sleep just yet, lol. I know, I will. Sweet dreams.


125 posted on 09/19/2004 2:01:48 AM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Kerry's testimony before the Senate was instrumental to America's defeat in the Vietnam War)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

BUMP!


126 posted on 09/19/2004 3:33:12 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: dandelion; lacylu; Alabama MOM; Calpernia; Velveeta

ping


127 posted on 09/19/2004 3:53:39 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (On this day your Prayers are needed!!!!!!!)
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To: ambrose

We are all assuming that Burkett is the source. Who leaked the information about Kinko's in Abilene... Robert Strong, not exactly a Bush fan.

I think someone should try to get in contact with Burkett, because the DNC/CBS/Kerry campaign are sure making it look like he is the culprit. He might turn on them, especially if he didn't forge the memo.

His email is available in the Yahoo groups.


128 posted on 09/19/2004 4:20:29 AM PDT by igoramus987
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To: ambrose

"I fought many of the people whom you now consider HEROS because of Ardmore and Albuqurque. "


Do you know what this is about???


129 posted on 09/19/2004 4:32:03 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: ambrose
You have a candidate and all of us do. Your candidates are afraid to fight down and dirty. The people say they're sick of this- and they are. But Bush has nothing to lose. And he will do ANYTHING to get what he wants.

Amazing but typical. They are willing to say or do anything to attack GWB. He campaigns cleanly and they turn around and accuse him of what they are guilty of.

This bozo has crossed the line, apparently, and will be made to answer for this garbage. What a loon.

130 posted on 09/19/2004 7:23:11 AM PDT by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.)
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To: AaronInCarolina
And that's what is about to get the elec tion tight enough that the dirty tricks in the voting booth and counting will work.

Finally, an admission from a democrat that they engage in voter fraud!

Hmmmmmmmm

131 posted on 09/19/2004 7:27:57 AM PDT by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.)
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To: Nathan Zachary
So, Brikett says he gave Max Cleland these false docs, and he, after batting the idea around with the DNC, gave them to Rather?

Max Cleland says he referred Burkett to the Kerry campaign mid-August. Burkett says in this posting:

I spent some time on the phone with the Kerry campaign seniors yesterday after having to threaten to whip a little ass in order to get through seven layers of bureaucratic kids trying to get a job after the election. I talked with Max Clelend.

132 posted on 09/19/2004 7:39:46 AM PDT by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.)
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To: occutegirl
Did Max Cleland really blow him off?

No. Max spoke with him and referred him to the Kerry campaign.

Parallels Drawn Between CBS Memos, Texan's Postings

excerpt:

Cleland confirmed that he had a two- or three-minute conversation by cell phone with a Texan named Burkett in mid-August while he was on a car ride. He remembers Burkett saying that he had "valuable" information about Bush, and asking what he should with it. "I told him to contact the [Kerry] campaign," Cleland said. "You get this information tens of times a day, and you don't know if it is legit or not."

~snip~

I don't give much weight to Cleland's disclaimer at the end. He wouldn't refer just anybody to the Kerry campaign.

133 posted on 09/19/2004 7:56:01 AM PDT by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.)
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To: Lady In Blue
Burkett is a typical modern day democrat. :)

Thanks for the ping, Lady!

134 posted on 09/19/2004 10:02:01 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: ambrose
And that's what is about to get the election tight enough that the dirty tricks in the voting booth and counting will work.

Is this guy really talking about voter fraud in a presidential election?

135 posted on 09/19/2004 10:05:38 AM PDT by MontanaBeth (NEVER FORGET)
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To: cyncooper

How did Burkett get Cleland's cell number?


136 posted on 09/19/2004 10:10:18 AM PDT by occutegirl ("She is too fond of books, and it has turned her brain." ~ Louisa May Alcott)
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To: ambrose

A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link.


I spend a fair amount of time over the years talking to schizophrenics through my work. I am not a mental health person but in a field where I interact with more than the normal share of nuts. This guy has the same sort of well organized persecution delusions that I have seen before.

He is sufficiently coherent to write a piece that has some consistency but it is the same sort of "sinister forces" type thinking that characterizes other delusions that I have heard.

Max Cleland lost when he played with a loose grenade,
he is just as likely to loose while playing with this loose cannon.


137 posted on 09/19/2004 10:15:14 AM PDT by TASMANIANRED (What did Kerry know and when did he know it?)
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To: Wissa
Eliminate the period he put in with his poor grammar and it makes more sense.

Do you think accusing Republicans of voter fraud "makes more sense?" I don't read it the same way you do, even with changing the way it was written by removing the period.

138 posted on 09/19/2004 10:19:09 AM PDT by MontanaBeth (NEVER FORGET)
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To: planekT

"He (Kerry) has left himself as a piñata at the end of Karl Rove's baton."


Have you noticed that the Dem's think Karl Rove is a combination of Moriarity, Fu Manchu and Blowfeld all rolled into one Republican Strategist.


139 posted on 09/19/2004 10:21:03 AM PDT by TASMANIANRED (What did Kerry know and when did he know it?)
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To: igoramus987

I have just read several of these and the discontent he feels for the DNC is so strong, I almost b elieve he purposely leaked the forgeries knowing they would be exposed as such to hurt to the DNC...anyone agree? He seems like a Clintonite/Hildebeast-ite and wants to destroy Kerry to usher in the Golden Age of Klinton II.


140 posted on 09/19/2004 10:30:31 AM PDT by Hyacinthus Forma
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