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In Rush to Air, CBS Quashed Memo Worries
Washington Post ^ | 09/20/2004 | Howard Kurtz, Michael Dobbs

Posted on 09/18/2004 7:27:43 PM PDT by jhouston

In the early-morning hours of Sept. 8, Dan Rather was preparing to fly to Washington for a crucial interview in the Old Executive Office Building, but torrential rain kept him in New York.

White House communications director Dan Bartlett had agreed to talk to "60 Minutes," but only on condition that the CBS program provide copies of what were being billed as newly unearthed memos indicating that President Bush had received preferential treatment in the National Guard. The papers were hand-delivered at 7:45 a.m. CBS correspondent John Roberts, filling in for Rather, sat down with Bartlett at 11:15.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cbs; cbsnews; forgery; killian; kurtz; michaeldobbs; napalminthemorning; rather; tang
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To: Cboldt
The article says that Mapes advised CBS on Sept 3 that her source had given her the documents. But if the documents were faxed to CBS from Kinkos on the 2nd ...

I stumbled on that one at first. It's not immediately apparent.

But the time/date stamp on the faxes was reportedly 6:41 PM on September 2 (a Thursday). They were faxed to a NYC phone number (212-xxx-1998, as I recall). They would have arrived at 7:41 PM EDT, well after business hours.

My guess is that Mapes came into the office on the morning of Sept 3, retrieved the faxes, and immediately alerted her superiors.

Or it could be that Mapes picked up the hard copies on Thursday, faxed a copy to herself in NYC (as insurance), then took a night owl from DFW back to NYC. Or, perhaps, Mapes was in Dallas and got a duplicate fax Thursday evening, alerting NYC on Friday morning.

If we knew exactly when Mapes met with Burkett, it would help. But there is no shortage of logical scenarios explaining the 9/2 faxing, 9/3 alerting timetable.

221 posted on 09/18/2004 10:53:14 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Mo1
The DNC was also ready to roll out "Operation Fortunate Son" on September 9. They had already telegraphed, in April, exactly what "questions" they wanted to focus on in the dem talking points --key unanswered questions.
222 posted on 09/18/2004 10:54:48 PM PDT by hobson
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To: hobson; All

lookie
http://washingtontimes.com/national/20040919-010848-5454r.htm


223 posted on 09/18/2004 10:55:58 PM PDT by bitt ("I'm Mad as Zell, and I'm Not Going to Take It Anymore." (CongressmanBillybob))
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To: topdog1
Since Burkett limps and uses a cane, it should be easy to verify or eliminate him.

Burkett is well known at the Abilene Kinko's. He has an account there. Plus, the local Democrat party holds their meetings in a Kinko's meeting room.

The management has already agreed to hold the security tapes, "in case they are needed".

224 posted on 09/18/2004 10:58:16 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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Washington Times/AP ^ | 9/19/04
Posted on 09/19/2004 1:48:59 AM EDT by ambrose
Ex-guardsman gave Bush records to Cleland

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) -- A retired Texas National Guard officer mentioned as a source of disputed documents on President Bush's service in the Guard said he passed along information to a former senator working with Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John Kerry's campaign.

In an Aug. 21 e-mail to a list of Texas Democrats, Bill Burkett said after getting through "seven layers of bureaucratic kids" in the Kerry campaign, he talked with former Sen. Max Cleland, Georgia Democrat, about information that would counter criticism of Mr. Kerry's Vietnam War service.


225 posted on 09/18/2004 10:59:19 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: okie01

Where did you find the fax information? I've been looking everywhere for that info.


226 posted on 09/18/2004 11:04:26 PM PDT by hobson
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To: Cboldt

My memory is quirky. I bad with names & can never remember where I put my car keys. ;o)

"It's been taken care of" caught my attention. When you see somone say something like that, you wait to see what shoes start to drop.

CBS has been in bed with the DNC for ages. Someone around here called me as nutty as a DUer when I posted something about Rather being a traitor for the way they pushed the Abu Garab story in the way that they did. Hillary's screwed up response during the hearings showed she had knowledge prior to the story breaking.


227 posted on 09/18/2004 11:05:54 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: okie01
That didn't happen until after Burkett had "reassembled the file"...

Here's a question .. Did Burkett "reassembled the file" or did someone else help him?

228 posted on 09/18/2004 11:05:59 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: traviskicks
A Kerry campaign official said the campaign could find no record of any contacts with Burkett.

The dems are soooo predictable. I aways laugh when they claim "no record", "no evidence", or Al and Bill's fav, "not a shread of evidence"...bla...bla...bla

229 posted on 09/18/2004 11:08:31 PM PDT by hobson
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To: counterpunch
There are two questions remaining:

1. Who is the "we" in "We have reassembled the files".

2. Who is the "unimpeachable source".

The answer to either or both will lead us deeper into the bowels of the Democrat party.

I'm still interested in the Robert Strong connection, as well. Strong, an English professor and apparently introspective type, isn't the type to have inserted himself into the cabal. Somebody recommended him to CBS and Rather was led to believe he was of sufficient importance for Himself to fly to Austin to interview him.

Strong might be a Robin Rather connection. But, in that case, there's somebody else telling both Robin and Bill what to do and when to do it.

230 posted on 09/18/2004 11:08:42 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: randita

It's called giving someone enough rope to hang themselves..I love it ...


231 posted on 09/18/2004 11:11:27 PM PDT by omstrat (zip code77034)
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To: GoLightly
I thought Barnes was supposed to have undergone some kind of epiphany during a stop at "The Wall".

That's what I recall him saying

And yes, his daughter did mention that he is working on a book

232 posted on 09/18/2004 11:11:44 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: counterpunch
Month old eye-witness accounts from stoned Kinko's employees usually aren't too fruitful or reliable.

Not to fear in Abilene. It's not only "The purtiest town Ah've ever seen", it's a straight-laced kinda place, as well. Three small colleges -- two of them church-sponsored.

233 posted on 09/18/2004 11:13:30 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: hobson

A Kerry campaign official said the campaign could find no record of any contacts with Burkett.

They should look in Hillary's nightstand...


234 posted on 09/18/2004 11:14:14 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: bitt

The thing Jamie Lee Curtis asked the guy to help her take off as she flashed her chest at him in the train car. I'm thinking it was "A Fish Called Wanda".


235 posted on 09/18/2004 11:15:05 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Cboldt
As far as I know, all of the snob media dismisses the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth as having been discredited, when in fact they have not.

Because the New York Times said so. There is no other basis for this dismissal. And the Times merely wrote that the SBVFT were "not credible" without citing a single reason for their assertion.

But, in the MSM, that's even better than facts...

236 posted on 09/18/2004 11:17:49 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: jhouston

I was at a concert tonight, The singer said they were going to be on a morning show on CBS and when he said "CBS" everyone started booing. He then said, "Yeah I know, it is Dan Rather's Network, but he will be asleep."


237 posted on 09/18/2004 11:18:30 PM PDT by occutegirl ("She is too fond of books, and it has turned her brain." ~ Louisa May Alcott)
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To: okie01

Excellent points! I keep thinking there has to be some person or persons operating in the background that we don't yet know about -- not even biased, partisan CBS would be dumb enough to take a bunch of "newly uncovered documents" straight from Bill Burkett and rush them onto national TV. Cleland's role may loom large, for Rather would consider him an 'unimpeachable' source (though why Cleland could be expected to know anything about TANG documents is a mystery to all except rabid leftists). Barnes could well play a large role -- did he merely tell his fairy-tale because CBS showed him documents, or did he have a role in arranging for the documents to be created and/or sent to CBS? He started flogging this horse back in May, so there may well have been many discussions in the rancid swamps of the Texas Demagogic Party between May and August. Burkett could even be the "fall guy" for a conspiracy he doesn't know about, because why would a former TNG officer produce such incredibly shoddy forgeries? (I know about the point made that there are 'Army' terms in the forged TANG documents, which could point toward Burkett, but loads of other people in the Texas Democratic Party circles could be responsible for that, too......


238 posted on 09/18/2004 11:19:05 PM PDT by Enchante (Jayson Blair left the NY Times and works for Dan Rather at CBS!)
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To: traviskicks
You would think that Barnes, Burkett and Cleland would have kept their mouthes shut tight after all this....

They have.

But when you're driving a wagonload of horses**t, you leave a trail...

239 posted on 09/18/2004 11:20:21 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: All

Sorry to interrupt this interesting discussion but Im fairly new here ..How can I get someone thrown off ?..There is a guy on another thread who's posting 100 of the same insane message ..Thanx all


240 posted on 09/18/2004 11:21:31 PM PDT by omstrat (zip code77034)
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