CBS Relied On Dems for Documents

RatherBiased.com ^

[Jim Noble]

I think the bigger motivating objective of CBS News (and NBC, ABC, CNN, PBS, NPR, AP, etc.) is the ability to manipulate public opinion and the political process - not necessarily to earn a profit. It's about power first, and money second

I think that's almost right.

I think there is a larger "entertainment" industry that controls and directs these "news" organizations.

The entertainment industry needs its consumers to be passive, dependent, and in need of stimulation.

It just so happens that these ideal entertainment consumers make good Democrats.

The function of MSM "news" is to increase feelings of helplessness and dependency.

The goal of their leashholders is economic and social, to change citizens into consumers and to make those consumers passive and open to programming.

It's much bigger than dan rather.

[Cboldt]

Even if Burkett is the forger, he may not have been the faxer. Remember, Rather said the memos came from "an unimpeachable source." Burkett is not "unimpeachable." Therefore, did someone else, someone who is unimpeachable, visit Burkett in Texas and use that Kinko's? If so, who? Who is the Deep Throat of this story?

Rather is a liar, so his assertion about the quality of the source is suspect.

[get'emall]

I've asked this same question on a couple of other threads. Anyone know anything about the Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002? Doesn't it require some very strict provisions for corporate oversight and governance of publicly-held companies?

[FarmerW]

I just read an article from Talon News by Jeff Gannon that fits in with that.

He said, "I'm really ashamed of what my daughter has become. She's a typical liberal. She went into journalism with an ax to grind, and that was to promote radical feminism."

In commenting on the Wednesday's 60 Minutes show, he said, "It was a farce, it was fraud. I'm sorry as a father that my daughter was the producer of it."

He goes on more in the article. He sounded to be to be truly ashamed of her and what she is doing.

http://www.theweekly.com/news/2004/September/17/Rathergate.html

[MeekOneGOP]

Aha! Bill Burkett.

[boop]

Not to mention it brings up the question just HOW does an obvious crackpot like Burkett even have access to Cleland? why did Cleland take the call? The whole CBS scandal is the DNC collusion!

[jmstein7]

BUMP!

[claudiustg]

---Cleland confirmed that he had a two- or three-minute conversation by cell phone with a Texan named Burkett in mid-August while he was on a car ride. He remembers Burkett saying that he had "valuable" information about Bush, and asking what he should with it. "I told him to contact the [Kerry] campaign," Cleland said. "You get this information tens of times a day, and you don't know if it is legit or not."---

What would Burkett be doing with Cleland's cell number? I think Cleland has revealed more than he intended.

[Smartass]

Phil...

I found the same photo of Burkett at:
Bill Burkett@Ratherbiased

[claudiustg]

---It's really a huge story, much bigger than Watergate. It's more like the Dreyfus affair in terms of potential connections within and among the powerful.---

A criminal conspiracy involving the Kerry campaign, the DNC, and CBS, to influence a federal election by illegal means.

[Travis McGee]

Great report, first rate, the top of the top!

[Travis McGee]

Burkett would not have made obvious mistakes like OETR in his memos. I think he gave the "nuggets" of info (Staudt etc) and some lingo to someone else who composed them with the military-ism errors.

[Bonaparte]

My pleasure, Penny! Glad you're having fun with this. So am I! ;-)

Cheers!

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

What best describes Dan Rather's relationship with his peers?

[claudiustg]

Yes, all very suspicious. And how is it that Burkett would be talking to Cleland by cell phone? How would Burkett have Cleland's cell number? There would already have had to been some sort of conspiracy. Are we to believe that Burkett took in all these high rolling operators?
I smell criminal culpability all up and down the line here.

[Bonaparte]

"Wasting your time with Ford. Their Board is as leftist as RATher and CBS."

As that may be, it didn't take much of my time to contact them. And they just might want to live to fight another day. If that means distancing themselves from Rather and CBS until this current controversy is put to rest one way or another, they just might have the sense to do that.

[finnigan2]

From this it is clear what happened. Burkett forged the documents and then met with Cleland for advice, who told him to send the documents to the DNC Headquarters for evaluation. The DNC then tipped off Mapes of CBS who visited Burkett and got copies of the forgeries directly from him (via fax) for the Rather report.
The Travis County Democratic Party organization has been the source of all this set up and everyone involved has ties to it - Burkett, Burkett's lawyer, Barnes, Rather's daughter and even Rather himself, in a fund raising capacity. CBS has been working hand in glove with DNC Headquarters, which has been an expediter and communications center for the smear campaign.

[Diddley]

[92] I agree with you, and I have also heard about the build-up-then-dump charge.

[Diddley]

[99] and often rather quickly, destroys those so unfortunate to have this condition

Yup. Seems to be a death wish of sorts.

[Penny]

Well, I have now received my first "rejection" to my complaining note--not objection--and thought you'd like to see it:

<<<<<<<< Your message
To: ronald.stovall@aexp.com
Subject: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:05:12 +0200
was deleted without being read on Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:19:09 +0200 >>>>>>>>>>>

I can only speculate two things: a)not interested in rethinking its advertising support, or b)overloaded by folk like us and plowing ahead by ignoring us.

Either way, I'm not pleased.

If you've had similar replies to any of the companies you listed, please advise.
Regards . . . Penny