Parallels Drawn Between CBS Memos, Texan's Postings

Washington Post ^ | 09/17/2004 | Michael Dobbs

[cyncooper]

The inference is that CBS was working on a story for a very long period of time without having their documentation verified until last week? Am I missing something?

Mapes hasn't been "working" the story for four year. We've heard that all day. It's simply cover to explain why the story always pops up during a George W. Bush election campaign. You're not missing anything.

[nonkultur]

Could be a coincedence. Mary Beth Cahill, Kerry, and McAullife
have been using Burkett talking points since February.

The swiftees forced their hand on this.

I see impeachment for Senator Kerry in the future.

[cyncooper]

Did the WaPo get Burkett's cell phone records, and link him to Cleland?

It sounds like Cleland just confirmed when he was asked. Whether he realized the implication is not clear.

Better if Dobbs had gone to Burkett then and asked if he followed Max's advice and contacted the Kerry Kamp. Wait--Burkett isn't talking. Well, Dobbs could ask the Kerry people directly like he did Cleland.

Tune in tomorrow indeed, because that is the next logical place to make inquiries (and I think we all know the answer).

Another thought---when was Cleland in Texas trying to deliver that letter to President Bush? Was that the cellphone/car ride discussion? I'll go look up when it was...this article says they spoke "mid August".

[jimbo123]

BBurkett16@aol.com

[Pete]

Bill Burkett sounds like he is hip deep in the Democrat party in Texas. This is from an Aug 31 2004 post

Since 1998, I've commented that we Democratic Leaders were the ones who bear the blame for Democratic defeats. And over the past year, we;ve made great strides to try to correct those problems in Texas.

And then there is this

I'm serious folks, this is a GOOD year to be a Democrat.

And look what he wrote in response to a message entitled Re: [TX-Demos] Kerry Events for the week of 08/15/04 - 08/21/04

I think this can become a spot where we all can get in touch with those doing a good job. FOr example, I end up in doctor's offices weekly in the Dallas Ft. Worth area, but can't seem to find out what's going on to wehre we might join in. [He is referring to Kerry events]

And this

I wished that Tommy could make a presentation to the critical consultants for the John Kerry campaign and develop the message that the voters can not miss concerning "shifting the tax burden".

We, as Democrats must be able to step forward and show that our number one and only goal is to provide HONEST Government and that we are willing to police ourselves in order to make it so.

Also, this sounds a little cryptic

Many of us have risked everything on this election.

[Southack]

"In an Aug. 21 posting, Burkett referred to a conversation with former senator Max Cleland (D-Ga.) about the need to counteract Republican tactics: "I asked if they wanted to counterattack or ride this to ground and outlast it, not spending any money. He said counterattack. So I gave them the information to do it with. But none of them have called me back." Cleland confirmed that he had a two- or three-minute conversation by cell phone with a Texan named Burkett in mid-August while he was on a car ride. He remembers Burkett saying that he had "valuable" information about Bush, and asking what he should with it. "I told him to contact the [Kerry] campaign," Cleland said."

The Washington Post just torched the Kerry Campaign.

The AWB Has Expired - Gun Owners Have Won Again For All Americans!

[YaYa123]

Looks like American Spectator's The Prowler had it right early on.

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=7096

"Washington Prowler
Anatomy of a Forgery
By The Prowler
Published 9/10/2004 12:09:06 AM
"...Now, the producer says, there is growing concern inside the building on 57th Street that they may have been suckered by the Kerry campaign. "There is a school of thought here that the Kerry people dumped this in our laps, figuring we'd do the heavy lifting on the story. That maybe they had doubts about these documents but hoped we'd get more information," says the producer. "If that's the case, then we're bigger fools than we already appear to be judging by all the chatter about how these documents could be forgeries."..."

[cyncooper]

Cleland confirmed that he had a two- or three-minute conversation by cell phone with a Texan named Burkett in mid-August while he was on a car ride.

Before, during or after this little stunt:

Cleland Asks Bush to Yank Ads

August 26, 2004

excerpt:

CRAWFORD, Texas — Former Georgia Sen. Max Cleland said he tried to get a letter to President Bush asking him to specifically denounce independent campaign ads against John Kerry but no one at the president's ranch would accept the letter.

~snip~

[cyncooper]

"In an Aug. 21 posting, Burkett referred to a conversation with former senator Max Cleland (D-Ga.) about the need to counteract Republican tactics:

Duh! I just posted how Cleland went to Crawford on August 26 and I wondered if the conversation was before during or after, forgetting the above sentence.

[jimbo123]

More on Burkett:

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/080404Burkett/080404burkett.html

snip-

Lt. Col. BIll Burkett is a decorated Vietnam era veteran who served 28 years in senior command and staff positions within the US Army and Army National Guard. While serving on the National Guard staff for then Governor George W. Bush, Burkett broke ranks and exposed an ongoing scam of reporting over 1,700 soldiers as present (Ghost Soldiers- USA Today, 2001) and fraudulent readiness reporting (USA Today) as well as the shredding of George W. Bush's own military service files. Burkett was one of five subjects in James Moore's book, "Bush's War for ReElection," and one of the sources for information in the Michael Moore's film "Farenheit 911." He is decorated soldier and recognized military process expert.

[hobson]

I always thought there was something strange about that photo op. Rassman was called to get on a plane and meet Max in Texas. He was on the road at the time and stopped by Walmart to buy a shirt went straight to the airport.

It get weirder and weirder.

Ok, the only question left is who will play Dan Rather in the movie.

[cyncooper]

the only question left is who will play Dan Rather in the movie.

LOL

Who will play Buckhead?!

[Steven W.]

Also note - from the American Spectator previously - the person who referred the source of the documents to the DNC was described by DemoncRAT sources as "a military person"; some, at the time, first suspected Wesley Clarke - it's now clear that person was MAX CLELAND.

[hobson]

get = gets

[Steven W.]

I think he made the forgeies - he's obviously computer literate (posting on yahoo & everywhere), his writing experience exposes him as familiar with word processing software and the ARMY military terms used on the purported (forged) documents is like his own personal signature.

Sounds to me like this guy is about to blow his top - probably have a press conference and, with all the masses assembled, start spewing his filth and leaving no doubt what's been going on around here, dowin in Abilene Texas.

[SlowBoat407]

[hobson]

Uhmmm. I would have to be a nice conservative actor, perhaps Chuck Norris.

[RatherBiased.com]

There are several other Texas Dem groups, two of which are members only.

http://groups.yahoo.com/search?query=texas+democrats&submit=Search


Also, as we reported today, CBS credited Burkett as a document source for a Feb 2004 story which was broadcast on their network. It was about his allegations that Bush had people throw away his records. They did not question Burkett's authority, despite the fact that other media like Boston Globe and ABC refused to touch him with a 10-foot pole

http://ratherbiased.com/news.html#45

[hobson]

Check this one out! The Band of Brothers against Karl Rove!

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Democrats/message/7278

[crushelits]

Bombastic!